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DateDoc 07-16-2009 02:40 PM

Obama's Science Czar advocates forced sterilization
 
"President Obama's top science adviser has toyed with extreme measures of population control, even suggesting in one book how to make it more publicly acceptable for the government to spike drinking water in order to sterilize people."

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...=home_showcase

MaDalton 07-16-2009 02:49 PM

there are many people that should not be allowed to breed. you'll be investigated when you get an animal from the shelter but every jobless dumbfuck with an IQ of 50 can put 20 children in this world.

quiet 07-16-2009 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 16073102)
there are many people that should not be allowed to breed. you'll be investigated when you get an animal from the shelter but every jobless dumbfuck with an IQ of 50 can put 20 children in this world.

haha, so true. we had to jump through a bunch of hoops to get our kitty from the local shelter. and they still call once a month to check up on things...

GrouchyAdmin 07-16-2009 03:00 PM

Well, that'd be one thing his administration would have issues fucking up.

STAROTICA 07-16-2009 03:05 PM

thank god,,,there are wat too many people on earth as it is......

BradM 07-16-2009 03:08 PM

Sounds like a plan to me.

who 07-16-2009 03:12 PM

I think a government license should be required in order to allow a pregnancy in some countries. USA in particular.

Machete_ 07-16-2009 03:15 PM

This is video #2 in a series of very interesting videos you sould watch when you have the time.

The video below shows why regulation might be one of the more humane solution, to a problem that could result in massive fatal problems, if we dont start doing something about it now.

The choise is between proactive regulating now, or starving to death later



Here is the first one, if you deside to watch them all https://youtube.com/watch?v=F-QA2rkpBSY

IllTestYourGirls 07-16-2009 03:20 PM

All those who are scared of "out of control human population" should lead by example and kill themselves first. :2 cents:

Martin 07-16-2009 04:15 PM

You people are fucked that are for this, you and your kids will be drinking that water too.. Clowns.

cykoe6 07-16-2009 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 16073311)
All those who are scared of "out of control human population" should lead by example and kill themselves first. :2 cents:

I could not agree more. They should lead by example.

quiet 07-16-2009 04:24 PM

leading by example would be using birth control.

JD 07-16-2009 04:27 PM

reproducing NEEDS to be regulated. You should have to have a permit to procreate. Just because you CAN have kids doesn't mean you should. Too many useless assholes pop out kids instead of actually DOING something with their lives.

+1 vote for required birth control via injections.

Machete_ 07-16-2009 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 16073311)
All those who are scared of "out of control human population" should lead by example and kill themselves first. :2 cents:

unless we controll it, it is pr definition "out of control"

If we dont do it, nature will will regulate itself, just like it does with animals. If there are to many people we will just starve to death or kill eachother to get the food - but I guess nuking a whole continent in the fight for clean water and food is more humane to you?

baddog 07-16-2009 04:29 PM

Good deal.

Rochard 07-16-2009 04:37 PM

Monday I was driving down Interstate 5 someplace between LA and Sacramento, a long, two lane highway. An eighteen wheeler had broken down on the side of the freeway, and another eighteen wheeler driving by moved into the fast lane to give it proper space - very customary. The dumb ass in the mini van - who had been in the fast lane the entire time - couldn't grasp why the eighteen wheeler had moved into the fast lane, and decided to drop down into the slow lane to pass the truck - and blew past the stranded eighteen wheeler on the side of the freeway.

Some people should be shot because they are just plain stupid. Making sure they don't reproduce sounds like a grand idea.

seeandsee 07-16-2009 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DateDoc (Post 16073055)
"President Obama's top science adviser has toyed with extreme measures of population control, even suggesting in one book how to make it more publicly acceptable for the government to spike drinking water in order to sterilize people."

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...=home_showcase

obama is world ruler!:1orglaugh

Eric 07-16-2009 04:54 PM

You can count me in for this! A regulation of the number of children a human being can have should be put into place. Replacing ones self should be the limit.

JD 07-16-2009 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 16073832)
You can count me in for this! A regulation of the number of children a human being can have should be put into place. Replacing ones self should be the limit.

Agreed. 1 child per person should be the limit (except in the case of multiples) And this fertility drug shit needs to get the axe as well. Fucking Octomom is the prime example of it being a horrible idea. If you can't procreate naturally.... ADOPT.

IllTestYourGirls 07-16-2009 05:02 PM

I am waiting for one of you to say that we should rid the world of Jews next.....

steved 07-16-2009 05:06 PM

I won't drink public water for so many other reasons:) When it comes out rusty, you know there is something bad in it!

Machete_ 07-16-2009 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 16073898)
I am waiting for one of you to say that we should rid the world of Jews next.....

you are simply a idiot if you compare population control to race hygienics

IllTestYourGirls 07-16-2009 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by KrisH (Post 16073934)
you are simply a idiot if you compare population control to race hygienics

You simply dont understand history if you dont think one doesnt lead to another. :Oh crap

"Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of." ruth bader ginsburg 2009

Machete_ 07-16-2009 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 16073955)
You simply dont understand history if you dont think one doesnt lead to another. :Oh crap


No, its you who think backward. Evolution is not applying yesterdays mistakes to todays problems. It's looking back and see what went wrong before, and avoid making the same mistake again.

IllTestYourGirls 07-16-2009 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KrisH (Post 16073974)
No, its you who think backward. Evolution is not applying yesterdays mistakes to todays problems. It's looking back and see what went wrong before, and avoid making the same mistake again.

"Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don?t want to have too many of." ruth bader ginsburg 2009

Where do you think pornographers stand in the line of "populations" they dont want too many of?

Machete_ 07-16-2009 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 16073981)
"Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of." ruth bader ginsburg 2009

Where do you think pornographers stand in the line of "populations" they dont want too many of?

That quote fell in regards to what the consequenses was of underage parenthoods, rape victims that got pregnant. In other words - unwanted pregnancies


It have absolutely nothing to do with race or some fucked up eugenicist plan. That quote is taken completely out of context

IllTestYourGirls 07-16-2009 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KrisH (Post 16074003)
That quote fell in regards to what the consequenses was of underage parenthoods, rape victims that got pregnant. In other words - unwanted pregnancies


It have absolutely nothing to do with race or some fucked up eugenicist plan. That quote is taken completely out of context

Keep telling yourself that. :thumbsup

Machete_ 07-16-2009 05:28 PM

And she said it in 2005 - not 2009

DateDoc 07-16-2009 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JD (Post 16073866)
Agreed. 1 child per person should be the limit (except in the case of multiples) And this fertility drug shit needs to get the axe as well. Fucking Octomom is the prime example of it being a horrible idea. If you can't procreate naturally.... ADOPT.

Does this mean 1 child per couple or can a couple have two children. If the husband has a kid from a previous marriage can he get his new wife pregnant if he remarries? What happens when he or her have reached their alloted quota for children? Are they sterilized? Who pays to sterilize them? If they have more kids than they are allowed is there a fine, jail time, do we kill the extra kid?

Machete_ 07-16-2009 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DateDoc (Post 16074029)
Does this mean 1 child per couple or can a couple have two children. If the husband has a kid from a previous marriage can he get his new wife pregnant if he remarries? What happens when he or her have reached their alloted quota for children. Are they sterilized? Who pays to sterilize them? If they have more kids than they are allowed is there a fine, jail time, do we kill the extra kid?

that is some of the questions we need to find a answer for, but we dont find the answer running around pretending there isent a problem

Machete_ 07-16-2009 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KrisH (Post 16074018)
And she said it in 2005 - not 2009

Sorry, wasent 2005 - that was another quote, my bad

MaDalton 07-16-2009 05:37 PM

ask the chinese how to do it - they have a one child policy

too bad if it's a daughter though, can happen that she disappears. which leads to the problem that you end up with a lot of guys who don't find a woman to marry cause instead of natural 50/50 you suddenly have like 60% boys and 40% girls

IllTestYourGirls 07-16-2009 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KrisH (Post 16074036)
that is some of the questions we need to find a answer for, but we dont find the answer running around pretending there isent a problem

The question has already been answered. Its called freedom.

David! 07-16-2009 05:44 PM

WOW, had it been some Bush' adviser who said this and you would all be screaming murder, but it's Obama so it's all cool and dandy...

DateDoc 07-16-2009 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PussyMan (Post 16074072)
WOW, had it been some Bush' adviser who said this and you would all be screaming murder, but it's Obama so it's all cool and dandy...

:thumbsup

Machete_ 07-16-2009 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 16074058)
The question has already been answered. Its called freedom.

you are free to overpopulation the earth, so we either kill or starve eachother to death - that is your alternative.

I would preffer we find a solution that gave people a incentive to think about their grandchildrens future, and not just themselves.

Its simple math. Since as long as we have registered growth in population, our doubling-rate have been around 70 years. Check the movie above for a explanation of how exponential growth works.

This means, that unless you want people to starve to death, or expect a new WorldWar - you will run out of food in 3 generations from now, and even if you fixed that, you would run out of space about 6 generations from now.

unless there is a war or sickness that kills a lot of people. That is the cold facts you need to realice.

Again - I think its much less intrusive if we could come up with a way to benefit the people that put some thought in to how many kids they should get

psili 07-16-2009 06:23 PM

Some of your moms should have swallowed, or have removed warning labels from your toys...

1. RTFA

2. Dude co-authored some book back in '77 -- "which discussed the possible role of a wide range of solutions to overpopulation, from voluntary family planning at one extreme, to a "planetary regime" of enforced population control at the other extreme."

3. What, honestly, do some of you propose when people are using vaginas like clown cars?

4. Look up carrying capacity, while you're pondering #3.

Dirty Dane 07-16-2009 06:26 PM

The reason population is growing in the rich world is mainly because we cure diseases and humans are getting older before they die. But ironically, it is not the richer world, but the poor world where population increase is worst, simply because they are poor. Without education and better technology, the gap between generations is shorter.
The solution is to let them take part of the rich world. That will stabilize and optimize both economy and population. Destabilization (killing people or make them sick) will only result in an endless circle of suffer.

JD 07-16-2009 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DateDoc (Post 16074029)
Does this mean 1 child per couple or can a couple have two children. If the husband has a kid from a previous marriage can he get his new wife pregnant if he remarries? What happens when he or her have reached their alloted quota for children? Are they sterilized? Who pays to sterilize them? If they have more kids than they are allowed is there a fine, jail time, do we kill the extra kid?

what part of "1 child per person" doesn't make sense? One man... one woman... 2 kids allowed. If he remarries, and the new wife has no kids, she can have one. When the limit is reached, they would be required to be on birth control and or "get fixed".

It would be cheaper to pay for sterilizing them than to pay them every month to spit out kids they can't afford/don't want/etc. If they have more than the limit, a huge fine and jail time depending on the situation would be ideal.The kid would be taken away and put up for adoption.

imo people should be able to have as many adopted kids as they want. It's "new" births that are the problem.

american pervert 07-16-2009 06:28 PM

im for retroactive abortions.

IllTestYourGirls 07-16-2009 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KrisH (Post 16074122)
blah blah blah

Seriously you are fucked up in the head, fucked up like Hitler. No doubt about it.

Anyone who thinks they should control an others reproductive activity in anyway is seriously fucked up in the head.

There are 1000s of better ways to stop over population than FORCED abortions and sterilization.

But feel free to sterilize yourself at any point. No one is stopping you. Well wait, you are taking up the precious limited resources of the earth, should I get you a gun?

cykoe6 07-16-2009 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 16073898)
I am waiting for one of you to say that we should rid the world of Jews next.....

It is hard to believe how many people here are eager to embrace eugenics despite the unimaginable levels of suffering and death that the theory has been responsible for. Really makes me sick. :disgust

IllTestYourGirls 07-16-2009 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 16074231)
It is hard to believe how many people here are eager to embrace eugenics despite the unimaginable levels of suffering and death that the theory has been responsible for. Really makes me sick. :disgust

They are mentally ill they cant help it. They think the should control others while not taking any steps themselves. They think they are above the peons and everyone should do what they think is right even if they themselves do not even attempt to do what is right.

After all these people are talking about limited resources yet they are on a "fucking around" area of a porn webmaster board. I find that fucking amusing. :1orglaugh

CyberHustler 07-16-2009 06:40 PM

:sleep :sleep

psili 07-16-2009 06:44 PM

We all know you post to get a rise out of people.
But really. Tighten that shit up, yo!

Wiping monkey spunk on your monitor makes more sense than the crap you make up in your posts.


Quote:

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 16074240)
They are mentally ill they cant help it. They think the should control others while not taking any steps themselves. They think they are above the peons and everyone should do what they think is right even if they themselves do not even attempt to do what is right.

After all these people are talking about limited resources yet they are on a "fucking around" area of a porn webmaster board. I find that fucking amusing. :1orglaugh


SuckOnThis 07-16-2009 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane (Post 16074212)
The reason population is growing in the rich world is mainly because we cure diseases and humans are getting older before they die.

What disease has ever been cured? Zero.

jollyperv 07-16-2009 06:49 PM

Yep, definitely too many fucks

SuckOnThis 07-16-2009 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 16074240)
They are mentally ill they cant help it. They think the should control others while not taking any steps themselves. They think they are above the peons and everyone should do what they think is right even if they themselves do not even attempt to do what is right.


Best description of republicans I've seen in quite a while :thumbsup

Dirty Dane 07-16-2009 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 16074305)
What disease has ever been cured? Zero.

Both infectious and non-infectious diseases, which were normal cause of deaths in the old days, can be prevented or cured individually today.

SuckOnThis 07-16-2009 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane (Post 16074356)
Both infectious and non-infectious diseases, which were normal cause of deaths in the old days, can be prevented or cured individually today.

Prevented yes, no disease has ever been cured.


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