cam_girls

1,500 hits is about $700 a day for an affiliate. Some sites they get a lot less than
1/3 of the time in pay mode and still stay online.

Domain Diva

I agree..and have just increased all my cam domain prices X2


On a seperate note,the domain is a good one but l think only 2 options exsist.

1. Sit on it hoping one of the larger established players wants it at a latter date.

2. Spend about $1-3 million bucks on building a cam site and infastructure (and thats a gamble)

Cant see any other ways for you to recoup the 350k


Ps if anyones is looking for cam domains...hit me up .....

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Webmaster Army

Do you know what forum you are on? You are talking to program owners and affiliates that have been involved with cams for the better part of a decade of not longer. We know exactly what traffic is worth, what a white label will make and why your plans of world domination will crash and burn. Then to top it off you act like we are pulling this stuff out of our ass when it's obvious to everyone but you that you don't have the slightest bit of a clue.

I was actually interested in putting together a webcam affiliate program on a premium domain and sent you an email to discuss it. Unfortunately, you have ruined any chance of anyone promoting or being associated with your website with this thread. Nobody would trust their money to someone so utterly clueless and too hard headed to even consider that they might be wrong.

Wow, just fucking wow.

Webmaster Army

I'm looking for a great, brandable one. What do you have in that regard?

lazycash

I don't think any of us think its doomed, but you haven't exactly instilled any confidence in us that you know how to make it successful. You'll need 50k a day to keep any camgirls around and traffic won't return if you only have a half a dozen girls live. Camgirls have tons of different sites they can work these days, unless you're willing to give them some pay up front, there's going to be no incentive for them to sit around all day with your 1500 hits waiting for your site to grow. Have you looked into partnering up with some of the eastern euro camgirl studios?

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cam_girls

And who else spent $3 million to set up a cam site?

The way I see it cam sites either make millions or next to nothing, and I can't
see camgirls.com failing by a long shot.

Webmaster Army

You can't see it failing why? Because it's a memorable domain in a competitive field full of memorable names? You literally have nothing else going for you.

MikeSmoke

Not to hijack the thread, but I haven't increased the price of cameragirls.com by 2x, no matter what the other guy paid for camgirls.com

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cam_girls

You're the one emailing me asking me to make your dreams of wealthy retirement
come true.

moeloubani

lol at all you people shitting and crying that this guy isn't going to make money

we all started off sometime and when we started we didn't know shit, so put yourself in the same boat as this guy - you don't know shit, and you're just starting in this biz

now think to yourself, sure he's going to fuck up and get some things wrong - we all do and we all did, but how many of us had a domain like camgirls.com to start out with? its a great domain with tons of potential and just because the dude doesn't know right now the ins and outs of things doesn't mean in 10 years camgirls.com won't be a bigger site

Domain Diva

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I do have some very high premium ones but dont want to post them here but feel free to hit me up on icq ....

Thanks

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lazycash

All of the big programs spent that much and more, if you were gonna spend 350k on a domain then you should have done exhaustive research within that niche to find out how much additional investment it was going to take to bring a project to completion. Can you explain why you seem to be conveying that a good name automatically means success and profitablity? Flip it around, AWE paid $10 for livejasmin.com and used their budget to build the site and create a successful affiliate program. Its a horrible name for a major cam site, but they've shown that in the whole scheme of things the name plays a very little role in determining success.

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lazycash

It was already priced 2x higher or more than it should be, so you are ok leaving it.

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Domain Diva

I dont think people are shitting and crying at him ,they are trying to give advice?

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Webmaster Army

I have always dreamed of retiring on a webcam program that I own / operate yes. I am looking for the right domain to do it with, you happen to have one that would have worked. Since I don't want to pay $20,000,000 for it I asked if you wanted to do something besides be a glorified affiliate with less traffic than pretty much everyone else on this board, including those that started last week.

All of this was before I realized you are one of the dumbest people I've ever had a discussion with. We're on the internet, do you know how hard that is to accomplish?

lazycash

That's just it, none of us started off in our niche purchasing a 350k domain. I wish him all the luck in the world. However, it appears initially based on his lack of insight into the cam niche that he could use a little constructive criticism.

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Webmaster Army

It's not that he doesn't know the ins and outs, he actually thinks he has it all figured out and refuses to even consider what quite a few people here have said. Did you start out in the adult industry by telling people that actually know what's going on "Nuh uhn, the domain is so good I'll be a millionaire!".?

I hope not.

moeloubani

obviously though someone would have been better off doing the $10 domain and spending $349,990 on marketing / buying links

moeloubani

im sure he's considering everything but no one who just spent $350k on ANYTHING likes to be told what to do with that thing

Webmaster Army

I just hope he didn't tell the mafia he'd turn $350,000 into $3,500,000 or something.

MikeSmoke

I've never quoted anyone a price...but touché anyway

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lazycash

If you've been reading his posts, its not obvious to him. He appears to be under the assumption that the name is so good that its destined to succeed.

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lazycash

I was just messin with ya, cause I've seen you drop the domain in a few webcam related threads with the hint that it could sell for a lot. I actually don't like cameragirls at all for the cam niche, seems to be better suited for the glamour model niche. However, AWE is using cameraboys.com for their male site, so who knows. I'd approach AWE with an offer and see what their response is, would compliment their male site nicely. I would at least have it forwarding to a cam affiliate link or do one of the quick and easy white labels.

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lazycash

I agree with you, or he could just put a cobrand on it and pull in his 15-35k a year and recoup his investment after about 14 years. Because I believe he substantially overpaid for the domain, this isn't going to be a 6-12 month flip and he'll be forced to develop it. He really needs an investor/partner with experience in the cam niche to come in and help him understand all that its going to take to get something developed.

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l0lf4c3

and the price would be?

cam_girls

I've seen half a dozen cam sites with 2 or 3 models online and a page with the
offline models, some have a schedule when they'll be online. Sometimes they have
0 models online yet they're turning a business. You don't need to start big.

Webmaster Army

We'll all be patiently waiting. Please show us how it's done.

papill0n

fris

so your saying camgirls.com is worth more than porn.com?

riiight.

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great investment. don't listen to the haters.

Mickey_

Good luck with the domain, let us know if you need any help (you've got Dave's email address).
I didn't read the whole thread, but a word of advice: You might want to reconsider the "50% profit" in addition to some of the other figures in your equation and projection.

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Pleasurepays

pure comedy right??

he clearly doesn't have the maturity or simple common sense that would come from actually building a company and making 350k. i'm guessing he inherited money or his family bought it for him or something similar. his logical deductions as to why domain A will logically generate more revenue than domain B are quite funny.

sold the old cam stuff... but, i am very close to getting back into it in a very big way. have a few very good mainstream domains in development and ready to launch.

still married ... going on year 9 now.

how have you been?

Pleasurepays

50% profit? haha

so... how much traffic will that require? where will that traffic come from? assume girls you have only private 1 on 1 sessions and no other type of chat/business model and the girls need to be in private 20% of the time to be worth their time... how many users does that require? how much traffic would it require to get to that level where you have that many users?

you're very funny.

i'm still curious where you got 350k from. it might be hard to talk about... but seriously, which one of your parents died and left you the money? was it more than 350K or did you blow your whole inheritance on a single domain name?

Manowar

i thought cams was 750k? lensman to lars

cam_girls

About 150,000 hits a day. In 10 years that is.

But cam traffic pays well, so 10,000 hits a day would pay for the domain
in a few months.

BlackCrayon

Awesome domain with great potential however it seems you know nothing about adult and did not do research prior. I guess 350k isn't that big of a deal to you? Either way, I'm sure you'll do fine with it. If you don't need to make money back instantly you have time to learn.

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Nicky

I've read this whole thread and all I can say is that you are heavily delusional

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PSSuperstars

I don't even think you realize what your profit margin will be once you are open...
Your profit will be.. at most, 17ish% percent.. 20% will be pushing it... 10% is more realistic..

by the time you've paid for bandwidth, girls, affiliates, hosting, tech support people 24/7... not to mention the initial big ass investment of getting started..

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Yngwie

those calculations are under the assumption that EVERY cam girl you would have is busy with a viewer 24/7/365.. That's where your calculations are flawed. Sure, you can have 100 cam girls, but how much traffic does the site get? Do you think any cam girls will stick around if they get 1 or 2 viewers every few days?

Also, who's to say that the traffic that you do get will actually spend money? What if you only get 2000 uniques per day and out of that only 10 actually spend money? You would have to work your ass off to grow the traffic and drastically increase your member base in order to make it worth it for everyone involved.

Than you have your expenses, hosting, design etc.. etc.. There are many factors here. It's not just a simple XX + XX * XX = XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX calculation.

The key here is hard work.

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LoveSandra

good luck ..

MikeSmoke

It's OK...I know you're just playing...so am I I just drop it into the threads because it makes me laugh to do it...I know it's no camgirls.com

It's only down temporarily, I'm re-working what I'm doing with it, wasn't happy with its performance under its previous incarnation.

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MikeSmoke

The price would be the best reasonable offer
smokesigs AT earthlink DOT net

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HorseShit

wow, this guy is retarded LOL

Nicky

I doubt he will start out with a 1:200 revshare spending ratio. More like he will be lucky if 3-4 people spend money out of 2000.

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JamesK

Wow, this guy is clueless.

I wish you good luck though. I'm sure you'll learn a lot about the business and eventually succeed in a couple of years.

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NikKay

Do you think the traffic to camgirlslive.com is type-in traffic? Where do you think it came from and how much do you think it costs? Where are your estimates for traffic expenses? What's your marketing plan? Have you even tested what you're doing with the site now to ensure the best ROI from your current traffic? Have you considered building something on your site instead of redirecting the traffic to start working on your search engine rankings? Why are you wasting your time posting on boards when you don't yet have a product to sell to anyone?

Bossman

Agreed its in the top of cam domains - however $50K is that enough to get it going? I know we are sitting on one of the other top cam domains out there, and its has not been money holding us back, but rather not ending up spending money on "another cam site" in the ocean of cam sites

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tranza

This thread is just too funny, really.

That cam_girls guy is just hilarious. He can't be for real.

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lazycash

I'm confused by your post, my example said spend 50k on the name and the other 300k on getting it going. I think you could get something going with 50k, but that will probably run out soon. So if I hear you correctly, you've invested in a premium cam domain but aren't sure you want to proceed with development because the current market is saturated? Any chance you'd want to tell us your domain, is it webcam.com ? Is your domain strictly adult cam related or could it go mainstream, I have some ideas how you could develop it without entering the saturated adult pay per min market.

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