I've never seen tall poppy syndrome over a domain before.
Adult Friend Finder had a public stock offering and released their profit figures,
$5 million a month for cams.com. LiveJasmin is several times bigger.
How much do you think they're making with 1000 models online charging $5 a minute?
How many leading companies can this niche support?
I've never seen tall poppy syndrome over a domain before.
Adult Friend Finder had a public stock offering and released their profit figures,
$5 million a month for cams.com. LiveJasmin is several times bigger.
How much do you think they're making with 1000 models online charging $5 a minute?
I'm not going to jump on your ass and say the domain isn't worth $350,000 because to the right person or company it is worth that in the long run. However, you are comparing the income of cams.com to your domain forwarding through a sponsor. The guy that owned cams.com busted his ass for the better part of a decade (maybe longer) and has more connections in this business than he could count. He was inside damn near every members area of every big porn site for years! He build that company from the ground up and his $5,000,000 per month is 100% irrelevant to what you are talking about. Cams.com was only purchased by that person a few years back but he PARKED HIS ENTIRE EMPIRE ON IT.
Anyhow, I sent you an email to your domain address. Respond if you'd like.
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why is it that you can't understand that you can do that with 123458087345.org ? you think the domain is the key part of the equation and you basically wasted 350k because you have this sort of persistent and unwavering ignorance that's kinda admirable
c'mon man. be honest. where did you get 350K. you obviously didn't work for it. where did you get it???
350k is a reasonable investment here.
As long as the owner can avg about 50k a year with this name, than 350k investment was well worth it.
350k was not a steal by any means, and it was more than cams.com or webcams.com were purchased for just few years ago. Like i said if the new owner can do 50k a year or better, than it was clearly a good investment IMO. Its no where near 50k a year now, maybe 10-15k a year now so the new owner will have to put in some work and grow that traffic from current avg of around 150-200 uniques / day
350k is a reasonable investment here.
As long as the owner can avg about 50k a year with this name, than 350k investment was well worth it.
350k was not a steal by any means, and it was more than cams.com or webcams.com were purchased for just few years ago. Like i said if the new owner can do 50k a year or better, than it was clearly a good investment IMO. Its no where near 50k a year now, maybe 10-15k a year now so the new owner will have to put in some work and grow that traffic from current avg of around 150-200 uniques / day
I'm pretty sure cams.com had a $1 million sale price unless it was sold again recently.
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350k is a perfectly reasonable investment for a good domain name one plans to build a brand around. Now if the new owner does nothing with it and continues as is, than $10k a year in rev will not make this a good investment.
is not how what you spend on a domain, its what you do with it.
no it didnt... you dont even know who were the previous 2 owners.
I'm pretty sure the owner from way back was the owner of adult.com as I tried to buy cams.com in the earlier part of this decade but they never responded to emails. I was under the impression that the person running streamray bought it for $1,000,000 awhile back, I remember when they switched it over to that ugly landing page.
Anyhow, I have no way of knowing if those numbers were true, I just saw them posted somewhere long ago. I'm not stupid, they very well could have been lying to hype their own brand but I don't know them personally so I didn't ask.
I appreciate your condescending attitude though.
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350k is a reasonable investment here.
As long as the owner can avg about 50k a year with this name, than 350k investment was well worth it.
350k was not a steal by any means, and it was more than cams.com or webcams.com were purchased for just few years ago. Like i said if the new owner can do 50k a year or better, than it was clearly a good investment IMO. Its no where near 50k a year now, maybe 10-15k a year now so the new owner will have to put in some work and grow that traffic from current avg of around 150-200 uniques / day
well... 350k is a decent investment for someone who understands domains, monetization or cam sites AND has the ability to build a cam site, market it well and fund it until break even. starting with nothing, no software, no understanding of cc transactions and fraud management, no traffic, no marketing tools, no models and so on is a monumental task in the year 2009.
however.. 350k just because "livejasmin makes xyz" and not knowing the first thing about anything to the business of domains or cams... is a bit absurd ;)
i might be able to buy GM for a very great price. but i think we could all agree that if i then went to a forum and asked "ok, now what" and replied to everything with "well, both Ferrari and Lamborghini had 18% - 20% growth last year" to defend the fact that I bought GM, it would warrant some harassment and name calling and ridicule. ;)
he clearly didn't work for and earn that money because he's far too naive about business in general, investment or anything else. (you may have missed his other threads) - it looks a lot like a 17yr old who got the money from his dad. or maybe someone that won 400k in an auto accident settlement or something.
I'm pretty sure the owner from way back was the owner of adult.com as I tried to buy cams.com in the earlier part of this decade but they never responded to emails. I was under the impression that the person running streamray bought it for $1,000,000 awhile back, I remember when they switched it over to that ugly landing page.
Anyhow, I have no way of knowing if those numbers were true, I just saw them posted somewhere long ago. I'm not stupid, they very well could have been lying to hype their own brand but I don't know them personally so I didn't ask.
I appreciate your condescending attitude though.
The time you're referencing there was a $1m transaction, but it wasnt for cams.com
i'm digging through public archives to show you some history of this name.. gimme some time
well... 350k is a decent investment for someone who understands domains, monetization or cam sites AND has the ability to build a cam site, market it well and fund it until break even. starting with nothing, no software, no understanding of cc transactions and fraud management, no traffic, no marketing tools, no models and so on is a monumental task in the year 2009.
however.. 350k just because "livejasmin makes xyz" and not knowing the first thing about anything to the business of domains or cams... is a bit absurd ;)
i might be able to buy GM for a very great price. but i think we could all agree that if i then went to a forum and asked "ok, now what" and replied to everything with "well, both Ferrari and Lamborghini had 18% - 20% growth last year" to defend the fact that I bought GM, it would warrant some harassment and name calling and ridicule. ;)
he clearly didn't work for and earn that money because he's far too naive about business in general, investment or anything else. (you may have missed his other threads) - it looks a lot like a 17yr old who got the money from his dad. or maybe someone that won 400k in an auto accident settlement or something.
He's claimed $100 per day just from redirecting it to another program. While this isn't just wonderful it's still $36,500 per year on a domain that should hold it's value. Not bad if you have a spare $350,000, even if you don't know shit else to do with the business.
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It's on $30K per year now using pay per order, lifetime commision supposedly pays
more after a while. OK cams.com, livejasmin.com, webcams.com, imlive.com,
hotcams.com and a few other big sites all worked pretty hard. But even if I only
get 1% as big as these sites I'm gonna retire with 20 million.
What do you think of camgirlslive.com? Most of us wouldn't pay $50 for the domain
but it's alexa is 15,000, 14,000 uniques a day according to estibot, probably makes
$1M to $2M a year. It's just a white label site with no affiliates. Camgirls.com by
all logic should overtake camgirlslive.com
The time you're referencing there was a $1m transaction, but it wasnt for cams.com
i'm digging through public archives to show you some history of this name.. gimme some time
It's not a big deal, I just remember it being announced that it was for sale then sold to streamray (or owner) and I thought the million dollar figure was thrown around. Either way, good domain.
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It's on $30K per year now using pay per order, lifetime commision supposedly pays
more after a while. OK cams.com, livejasmin.com, webcams.com, imlive.com,
hotcams.com and a few other big sites all worked pretty hard. But even if I only
get 1% as big as these sites I'm gonna retire with 20 million.
What do you think of camgirlslive.com? Most of us wouldn't pay $50 for the domain
but it's alexa is 15,000, 14,000 uniques a day according to estibot, probably makes
$1M to $2M a year. It's just a white label site with no affiliates. Camgirls.com by
all logic should overtake camgirlslive.com
Sorry dude, that's not a white label. That is a landing page from the same company that owns cams.com (and hundreds of other domains). Affiliates have been sending traffic to that page for years, including me.
You putting a white label up on camgirls.com and walking away is the same as me putting a white label on any other domain that gets a couple hundred hits per day. You won't retire with $20,000,000 or even $2,000,000 from it.
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