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Old 11-28-2002, 11:43 AM   #1
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LikeWhoa is getting fixed... I just called Nick

Ok well I feel bad calling people on Thanksgiving even tho we lost a little biz -- but I called Nick -- he was just about to have dinner with his family... Nick asked me to post this...

I hope I get this all right because I'm not really a network engineer type... A technician has been sent out to fix the problem, it sounds like the local fiber loop is dirty. This is not a provider payment issue as for all the rumors that have been going around.

When I was in NY last month LikeWhoa was ordering new connections from some upstream provider and they even sent us a case of Crystal which I have to admit was fun. These bandwidth providers are bored out of their minds and working with an adult company really makes them feel "cool" -- you know they want to party with us adult biz guys... We were hooking up for dates w/ the sales girls from the upstream providers... LikeWhoa employs certain former upstream provider employees so that's how they basically have access to inside information/hookups... At least that's my understanding -- so Nick says that LikeWhoa will soon have reduntant connections w/ new upstreams that you can all jerk off on 99.999999% of the time, but until then just wait for an official statement from LikeWhoa... because I'm just a genius TheFLY, but not a network engineer.

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Old 11-28-2002, 11:45 AM   #2
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Personally I'm just going to enjoy Lensman's turkey -- I'm about to pick it up from the mailroom -- haven't even seen it yet!

Thanks Lensman I'm going to take a pic of it as soon as I get my hands on it. I hope it defrosts in time! I didn't call my friend to take the turkey out of the freezer until 11am... we are eating at 4pm!

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so how can they approach me and tell me that they can offer me the best verio bandwidth and not even have it?! they sign me up on dedicated make me move all my sites, for this SHIT.
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Personally I'm just going to enjoy Lensman's turkey -- I'm about to pick it up from the mailroom -- haven't even seen it yet!

Thanks Lensman I'm going to take a pic of it as soon as I get my hands on it. I hope it defrosts in time! I didn't call my friend to take the turkey out of the freezer until 11am... we are eating at 4pm!
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I am curious do they give u a free dedicated server as well? Like they do with others on this board?
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dirty fiber lines (rotfl!)? maybe they're using one of the powerful Internet cleaning robots from last leap year.

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Old 11-28-2002, 11:50 AM   #6
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so how can they approach me and tell me that they can offer me the best verio bandwidth and not even have it?! they sign me up on dedicated make me move all my sites, for this SHIT.
Dude calm down. Let me guess you run a TGP or something and you're losing bookmarkers. You got to keep the big picture in mind. A little bit of downtime isn't going to kill your biz unless your biz model is flawed in the first place. You probably have saved a lot of money just be using LikeWhoa -- so even if you lost a little bit of traffic on a slow day anyway (who surfs porn on Thanksgiving!) -- it all balances out in the end on your bottom line.
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just curious, is likewhoa gona be refunding people money for these outages?
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just curious, is likewhoa gona be refunding people money for these outages?
I sure hope so.
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Old 11-28-2002, 11:53 AM   #9
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Dude calm down. Let me guess you run a TGP or something and you're losing bookmarkers. You got to keep the big picture in mind. A little bit of downtime isn't going to kill your biz unless your biz model is flawed in the first place. You probably have saved a lot of money just be using LikeWhoa -- so even if you lost a little bit of traffic on a slow day anyway (who surfs porn on Thanksgiving!) -- it all balances out in the end on your bottom line.
guess what I dont run a TGP, my new sites are not even up yet so this doesnt affect me as much as most. My point is someone approcahed me and sold me VERIO bandwidth and a dedicated server, this is what i was told I am getting and now I am not.

I was not angry when I made my last post. All I asked was do they provide you with a free dedicated server? Like they do with many on this board in return for postive comments etc.
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I have some sites hosted w/ LikeWhoa and some other sites hosted with Five Elements... Yeah my Five-E bandwidth is more expensive, but I still want to keep my LikeWhoa service... If one provider goes down I still have sites running on the other.
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IF i am TOLD i will be on VERIO bandwidth when they ALREADY KNOW THAT I WILL NOT, that pisses me off.


regardless of whether i run adult.com or seans_bookmarks.com
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I have some sites hosted w/ LikeWhoa and some other sites hosted with Five Elements... Yeah my Five-E bandwidth is more expensive, but I still want to keep my LikeWhoa service... If one provider goes down I still have sites running on the other.

so do they give u a free dedicated server?
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Really it's none of your business, but no my hosting with LikeWhoa is not free, I have a Silver virtual account with them.
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just curious, is likewhoa gona be refunding people money for these outages?
asking the 2nd time..........................
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as well as ur free ded.
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Everybody has downfalls from time to time. This being the case for LikeWhoa at the moment.

Im sure they are hard at work on the problem, and Im sure it will be fiexd soon.

Even through all this I can still say they are the best I've had.

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Personally I'm just going to enjoy Lensman's turkey -- I'm about to pick it up from the mailroom -- haven't even seen it yet!

Thanks Lensman I'm going to take a pic of it as soon as I get my hands on it. I hope it defrosts in time! I didn't call my friend to take the turkey out of the freezer until 11am... we are eating at 4pm!
It takes up to 48 hours to defrost a Turkey. More like 30 if you leave it in cool water to defrost. I think you're screwed.
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Man who cares what they told you about Verio bandwidth... When was this? Maybe at the time you were contacted by the salesperson there WAS Verio bandwidth at LikeWhoa... Part of what I pay my host to do is to find the best hosting deals possible -- this is not a static fucking business -- all kinds of wheels are turning and if your host is just sitting pretty twiddling thumbs not negotiating deals and finding the best value then they are fucking stupid.

The thing about Nick is that he has PLENTY of money -- but people that have lots of money don't stay rich by blowing it on crap that is not important -- you spend the money on the shit that counts. I can honestly say that the employees at LikeWhoa are some of the best negotiator and deal making geniuses that I have ever met or observed in my life... These guys are fucking smart and if you meet them in Vegas I really challenge you to talk shit to them directly because they will tear you a new asshole.
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Everybody has downfalls from time to time. This being the case for LikeWhoa at the moment.

Im sure they are hard at work on the problem, and Im sure it will be fiexd soon.

Even through all this I can still say they are the best I've had.

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this is true - there is no such thing as 100% uptime. but a lot of service providers offer huge financial discounts when their service goes down - I'm curious if likewhoa does? No one seems to want to answer that question though..............
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if they gave free hosting away to everyone on this board, they wouldn't make much money....

i'm getting a bit pissed about the downtime, but hopefully everything gets back on track like it was earlier. i'm confident that they'll get their shit together.
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paid hosting is a scam

i run my porn empire from geocities
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Man who cares what they told you about Verio bandwidth... When was this? Maybe at the time you were contacted by the salesperson there WAS Verio bandwidth at LikeWhoa... Part of what I pay my host to do is to find the best hosting deals possible -- this is not a static fucking business -- all kinds of wheels are turning and if your host is just sitting pretty twiddling thumbs not negotiating deals and finding the best value then they are fucking stupid.

The thing about Nick is that he has PLENTY of money -- but people that have lots of money don't stay rich by blowing it on crap that is not important -- you spend the money on the shit that counts. I can honestly say that the employees at LikeWhoa are some of the best negotiator and deal making geniuses that I have ever met or observed in my life... These guys are fucking smart and if you meet them in Vegas I really challenge you to talk shit to them directly because they will tear you a new asshole.

They set my dedicated server up only 2 weeks ago, telling me they had verio, they lied.

Why would anyone want shitty congent on a dedicated server, u go dedicated to get the fastest and best possible hosting, well thats why i did. WHAT A WASTE OF TIME
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more reliable? do the LIE TO YOU about the quality of their service?
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if they gave free hosting away to everyone on this board, they wouldn't make much money....

i'm getting a bit pissed about the downtime, but hopefully everything gets back on track like it was earlier. i'm confident that they'll get their shit together.

lol

free hosting to 3-4 people that GFYers will listen to.
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more reliable? do the LIE TO YOU about the quality of their service?
i'm pushing 100GB a day on my geocities sub folder

i back up to my terra.es account
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lol

free hosting to 3-4 people that GFYers will listen to.
well thats more like good marketing. the hosting biz is pretty damn aggressive.
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When you're at the top there will always be haters. Lots of companies hate LikeWhoa because LikeWhoa does get the best deals on bandwidth and they CAN offer prices that are basically putting all of the other hosts out of biz... and making them fucking angry. Capitalism is not pretty... There's no reason for hosting companies to fix bandwidth prices and all live in harmony.

The hosting industry is consolidating and there's not a fucking think that any of these hater hosts can do about it. Only the strongest and smartest will survive and that's it... To me it seems kindof simple -- who can plug a box into the internet for the cheapest price while keeping the customer happy. From a customer's perspective, hosting is not brain surgery. I need my site hosted somewhere -- so I pay some money. Who ever keeps the site up for the cheapest price gets my business. It's not rocket science guys. It's consolidating and there's lots of haters so stop crying -- all your bitching on message boards won't make your hosting prices cheaper. If you can't compete then you can't compete. A feeding frenzy will only be temporary.

Anyway I'm going to eat some Turkey.
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Sorry I can't help you, but you don't even host with them... do you? I'm sure if you were hosting w/ LikeWhoa you would already have your answer by now on a 1 on 1 basis...

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yup

a microsoft datacenter will take over the world

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Just going to step in here and say that advertising in lots of places, spending 200k at Internext and having your name in people's sigs != being at the top!

There are lots of other hosts, some very low key that push a LOT more BW than LikeWhoa.

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Just going to step in here and say that advertising in lots of places and having your name in people's sigs != being at the top!

There are lots of other hosts, some very low key that push a LOT more BW than LikeWhoa.
how do you know this? you called miss cleo?
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Sorry I can't help you, but you don't even host with them... do you? I'm sure if you were hosting w/ LikeWhoa you would already have your answer by now on a 1 on 1 basis...

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so you're saying my question isn't valid?
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how do you know this? you called miss cleo?
I've seen their bandwidth stats and number of uplinks.
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so you're saying my question isn't valid?
you're not valid
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I've seen their bandwidth stats and number of uplinks.
so lets see some data on who's the biggest
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so you're saying my question isn't valid?
No, I'm assuming that each LikeWhoa customer has a unique relationship with the company... And if refunds for downtime was an important term of the service contract then that would have been negotiated from the beginning... not on Thanksgiving.
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so lets see some data on who's the biggest
I don't know who's the biggest, but I know people/hosts that are bigger and better than lw.
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so you're saying my question isn't valid?
All things being equal, what would you deem to be a fair amount for a refund if you were in this situation?
5%, 10%, 50%

Granted it's different for free sites, how large and profitable the site is, and so on. But just as a rule of thumb, what would you ask for?

I'm not implying that I'm going to ask for a refund. But would be intereted to hear your input.
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Just going to step in here and say that advertising in lots of places, spending 200k at Internext and having your name in people's sigs != being at the top!

There are lots of other hosts, some very low key that push a LOT more BW than LikeWhoa.
Who are these low key hosts...? Man I think you got bad info -- LikeWhoa is near the top of the food chain.
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Old 11-28-2002, 12:25 PM   #45
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Who are these low key hosts...? Man I think you got bad info -- LikeWhoa is near the top of the food chain.

Last I heard, LW had a 3Gbps capacity.
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Old 11-28-2002, 12:26 PM   #46
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SleazyDream they give good down time discounts although I'd way rather have my network running.

I just got off the phone with the NOC and it's a hardware problem. I'm going to go ride my bike then eat chow and hope this shit is fixed by then.

This fucking sucks.
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Old 11-28-2002, 12:26 PM   #47
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Old 11-28-2002, 12:32 PM   #48
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All things being equal, what would you deem to be a fair amount for a refund if you were in this situation?
5%, 10%, 50%

Granted it's different for free sites, how large and profitable the site is, and so on. But just as a rule of thumb, what would you ask for?

I'm not implying that I'm going to ask for a refund. But would be intereted to hear your input.
I havn't publically trashed likewhoa ever and they know that, I also don't use them cause I'm a freak for service and uptime and they have had little glitches now and then which scare the shit outa me.
I've even endorsed them - without a doubt they are cheap, the cheapest I know of. Downtime happens with EVERY hosting company on the planet - period. Fact of life. Where professionalism comes in is how that company deals with the screwups. Likewhoa has had many days of problems - on a more expensive host I'd be demanding a free month and I'd get it or leave.
For likewhoa prices you'll have to decide for yourself what would be fair and weigh that against what likewhoa has saved you over the years with their rock bottom prices. I firmly believe you get what you pay for and I personally pay more ( a LOT more) not to have prolems ever, and my site is NEVER down. I do pay though the nose for that though and I would have a LOT more money in my bank account if I had used likewhoa, although I'd probally be residing in a mental instutation cause the stress of downtime problems like what's happening to them recently is more than my fradgile little ego can handle.
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Old 11-28-2002, 12:33 PM   #49
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It takes up to 48 hours to defrost a Turkey. More like 30 if you leave it in cool water to defrost. I think you're screwed.
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Old 11-28-2002, 12:34 PM   #50
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Who are these low key hosts...? Man I think you got bad info -- LikeWhoa is near the top of the food chain.
ever heard of exodus?
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