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WDG · 04-30-2009, 11:58 PM

Who takes it? Has to be one of those 3 choices surely

charlie3273 · 05-01-2009, 12:10 AM

Really? You hate creed? I like all 3 three in fact . I more hate bruce springstein than those 3 but I voted other so.

Andy CHOOPA · 05-01-2009, 12:15 AM

WDG ... just found a ton of respect for you lol. Couldn't have thought of a better top 3 for horrible bands... maybe Nirvana

Bring it

Lycanthrope · 05-01-2009, 12:16 AM

U2 used to be good (in the 80s). Creed has one or two songs that I can tolerate (then again, all of their songs sound the same), but I would rather jab forks into my testicles than listen to Coldplay.

There are worse bands out there, but yes, out of the bands with some fame, Coldplay sucks the most ass.

GrouchyAdmin · 05-01-2009, 12:54 AM

Really difficult to choose from the above, but I hate Boner.

WDG · 05-01-2009, 03:14 AM

Coldplay are not only producing scheissen music, when they run out of ideas, they head to highly respected artists like Satriani and steal his music as well. I hope he wins that case and sues their asses off.

Holly Lez! · 05-01-2009, 04:42 AM

jonas brothers, pcd, no doubt, daughtrey, limp biscuit, the diddy band,

MattO · 05-01-2009, 04:56 AM

You forgot:

Nickelback
Counting Crows
and any fuckers who use an Autotune

Vicious_B · 05-01-2009, 05:56 AM

311. All their songs sound like they are whining.

MindWaste · 05-01-2009, 06:02 AM

this vid takes it.. me trying to freestyle to a rock song..

bronco67 · 05-01-2009, 06:07 AM

May I submit this video as evidence?

MindWaste · 05-01-2009, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

May I submit this video as evidence?

umm is this real???

nation-x · 05-01-2009, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by MindWaste

umm is this real???

No... it certainly isn't.

Keel is the worst band of all time

Joe BrainCash · 05-01-2009, 06:18 AM

So much crap out there...Where to begin?

Good Charlotte?
Savage Garden?
Aqua?

bronco67 · 05-01-2009, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by MindWaste

umm is this real???

No but whoever made this really hit the mark.

Just type Shreds in Youtube to get a whole bunch of these. The Creed vid is the best, but some of the others are hilarious.

HorseShit · 05-01-2009, 06:48 AM

spice girls

VicD · 05-01-2009, 07:06 AM

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spice girls

amen

WebairGerard · 05-01-2009, 07:22 AM

U2 should not be on this list. rough crowd.

Creed sucks because the singer really blows but the guitar player is talented.

LAJ · 05-01-2009, 07:29 AM

social distortion gets my vote... any band where the bass mirrors the guitar is pretty uninspiring. Add to that terrible and boring lyrics and songs that anyone with passing knowledge in music can pick up in 5 mins or less = shitty band.

bronco67 · 05-01-2009, 07:46 AM

Nickelback.

They're part of the new "retard rock" trend.

Just look at these lyrics. I could imagine it took about 10 minutes to write this....

SOMETHING IN YOUR MOUTH

Got to meet the hottie with the million dollar body
They say its over budget but you?d pay her just to touch it come on
Needs to hit the big screen and shoot a little love scene
if Hollywood had called her she?d be gone before you holler come on

Pretty little lady with the pretty pink thong every sugar daddy hittin on her all night long
Doesn?t care about the money she could be with anybody, ain?t it funny how the honey wanted you all along

You naughty thing
You?re ripping up the dance floor honey
You naughty women
You shake your @ss around for everyone
You?re such a mover
I love the way you dance with anybody
The way you swing
And tease them all by sucking on your thumb
Your so much cooler when you never pull it out
Cause you look so much cuter
with Something in Your Mouth

Crafty little lip tricks tattoos on her left hip
She bending as your spending
There?s no ending its so baby, come on
Dressed up like a princess beating that her skin smells better
than the scent of every flower in the desert, come on

Pretty little lady with the pretty pink thong every sugar daddy hittin on her all night long.
doesn?t care about the money she could be with anybody, ain?t it funny how the honey wanted you all along

You naughty thing
You?re ripping up the dance floor honey
You naughty women
You shake your @ss around for everyone
You?re such a mover
I love the way you dance with anybody
The way you swing
And tease them all by sucking on your thumb
Your so much cooler when you never pull it out
Cause you look so much cuter
with Something in Your Mouth

Nickelback lyrics on www.lyrics-celebrities.anekatips.com

She loves the night scene bar queen living for the fun
Taking over every dance floor like she?s the only one
In the spotlight all night dissing everyone
trying to look so innocent while sucking on her thumb
Your so much cooler
When you never pull it out
So much cuter
with something in your mouth

You naughty thing
You?re ripping up the dance floor honey
You naughty women
You shake your @ss around for everyone
I love the way you dance with anybody
The way you swing
And tease them all by sucking on your thumb
You naughty thing
You?re ripping up the dance floor honey
You naughty women
You shake that @ss around for everyone
You?rw such a mover
I love the way you dance with anybody
The way you swing
And tease them all by sucking on your thumb
Your so much cooler when you never pull it out
cause you look so much cuter
with something in your !

dyna mo · 05-01-2009, 07:50 AM

Insane clown posse

D Ghost · 05-01-2009, 08:01 AM

OMG< lmao... Nickelback, 3 Doors Down, and Creed definitely all blow bahahhah

MindWaste · 05-01-2009, 09:17 AM

lets go to a very good band.. my cousin chris and ben gibbard from death cab for cutie ...

fatfoo · 05-01-2009, 09:23 AM

The band that I tried to start is the worst band.

brassmonkey · 05-01-2009, 09:31 AM

coldplay

WebairGerard · 05-01-2009, 09:33 AM

nickelback is awful.

death cab is awesome. great song writers. liked their old stuff too.

smutnut · 05-01-2009, 09:38 AM

Damn, what about Culture Club, Wham, Devo and the Sex Pistols?

I know it's difficult to decide.

JC Maldini · 05-01-2009, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

May I submit this video as evidence?

OMG that made me laugh so hard...that is freakin funny as hell. No way that can be real...

candyflip · 05-01-2009, 09:45 AM

Nickelback is by far the worst band ever.

_Richard_ · 05-01-2009, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BrainPat

So much crap out there...Where to begin?

Good Charlotte?
Savage Garden?
Aqua?

man, i had forgotten about all those too

Strickie · 05-01-2009, 10:37 AM

Kiss is pretty bad

smutnut · 05-01-2009, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Strickie

Kiss is pretty bad

Kiss was the greatest muscial entity in the Milky Way Galaxy!

bronco67 · 05-01-2009, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Strickie

Kiss is pretty bad

This vid is shit your pants funny

PornMD · 05-01-2009, 12:23 PM

Nickelback or Linkin Park...probably Nickelback because Linkin Park's actually made a couple songs I don't hate.

Also, whoever thought 311 sounds like constant whining needs to listen to Linkin Park or every emo band ever. 311 is actually pretty good if you get past their radio songs.

WDG · 05-01-2009, 02:20 PM

Damn, I forgot Nickelback, should definitely have been there.

Dirty F · 05-01-2009, 02:22 PM

Nickelback is the first i thought of.

badmunchkin · 05-01-2009, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

This vid is shit your pants funny

that was brilliant

rhon23 · 05-01-2009, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by smutnut

Damn, what about Culture Club, Wham, Devo and the Sex Pistols?

I know it's difficult to decide.

You cannot seriously put Devo on that list. They are an amazing band. Don't judge them by "Whip It" their music and their talent is fucking brilliant. And yes they are one of my favorite bands

badmunchkin · 05-01-2009, 03:49 PM

actually I think KISS is worse then any of the bands mentioned. But I'm a huge U2 fan soooo... yea. Oh, yea and Keel is fucking atrocious. I liked them when I was 13.

MindWaste · 05-01-2009, 03:58 PM

When someone gonna set up a t-rain track fer these vids/... lol

fusionx · 05-01-2009, 03:59 PM

Nickelback, for certain.

Coldplay is possibly the most overrated band in history.

I also really hate Velvet Revolver

iwantchixx · 05-01-2009, 05:04 PM

say what you will about Creed, their ideology and attitude may scale 12 on the 10 point gay scale but they are excellent musicians

Diezel Jim · 05-01-2009, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by WDG

Who takes it? Has to be one of those 3 choices surely

The fact you included U2, one of the greatest bands ever, tells us all we need to know about your musical I.Q.

cykoe6 · 05-01-2009, 05:59 PM

That is a good list but I have to vote for Guns & Roses.

WDG · 05-01-2009, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Diezel Jim

The fact you included U2, one of the greatest bands ever, tells us all we need to know about your musical I.Q.

You're wrong.

Diezel Jim · 05-01-2009, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by WDG

You're wrong.

Wow, there's a convincing comeback.

It could -- and should -- be argued U2 is in the top 5 of all time. Try to name another band that's stayed together (with no breakups) for 30 years, remains both greatly popular AND critically acclaimed, and has several brilliant albums. Fact is, you can't. There are few groups that can match the likes of War, The Joshua Tree, Achtung Baby, Rattle & Hum, The Unforgettable Fire, All That You Can't Leave Behind and No Line on the Horizon.

Go ahead, hate Bono and despise their success.
You have zero credibility.

Lester Burnham · 05-01-2009, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Diezel Jim

Wow, there's a convincing comeback.

It could -- and should -- be argued U2 is in the top 5 of all time. Try to name another band that's stayed together (with no breakups) for 30 years, remains both greatly popular AND critically acclaimed, and has several brilliant albums. Fact is, you can't. There are few groups that can match the likes of War, The Joshua Tree, Achtung Baby, Rattle & Hum, The Unforgettable Fire, All That You Can't Leave Behind and No Line on the Horizon.

Go ahead, hate Bono and despise their success. But you can't deny truth.
You have zero credibility.

Commercial success does not mean quality. If that was the case, you would argue that the best movies of all time included every Adam Sandler movie, Independence Day, Transformers, and Fast and Furious. Come on now..

PornMD · 05-01-2009, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diezel Jim

Wow, there's a convincing comeback.

It could -- and should -- be argued U2 is in the top 5 of all time. Try to name another band that's stayed together (with no breakups) for 30 years, remains both greatly popular AND critically acclaimed, and has several brilliant albums. Fact is, you can't. There are few groups that can match the likes of War, The Joshua Tree, Achtung Baby, Rattle & Hum, The Unforgettable Fire, All That You Can't Leave Behind and No Line on the Horizon.

Go ahead, hate Bono and despise their success.
You have zero credibility.

U2 is overrated and Bono is a bit pompous, but yea, they're definitely not the worst. Coldplay too. There's plenty of "successful" bands that make the most absolute shitty music to really consider those two among the worst bands ever. And Creed - well if their "message" didn't get in the way, they may not have been that bad of a band. FWIW My Own Prison isn't too bad and remembering some other songs on that album (a friend borrowed it from a Christian friend of his :P), overall it wasn't horrible. They remind me of like the lower echelon of Pearl Jam stuff.

WDG · 05-01-2009, 10:07 PM

^LOL Diezel. To you maybe, but 22% of people on here agree they are in the worst 3 groups in the world.

As a head's up, I've been playing guitar for over 30 years, own several, the latest being a Joe Satriani Signature JS1000.

They might have stayed together a long time, but they still suck imho.

Diezel Jim · 05-01-2009, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by WDG

^LOL Diezel. To you maybe, but 22% of people on here agree they are in the worst 3 groups in the world.

As a head's up, I've been playing guitar for over 30 years, own several, the latest being a Joe Satriani Signature JS1000.

They might have stayed together a long time, but they still suck imho.

Might have stayed? No, they have stayed. And there's damn good reason.
But hey, don't let facts get in the way of your ridiculous statement.

What does playing guitar have to do with anything? You think I give a rat's ass what you think of one of the best bands of all time? LOL.

Get over yourself, man. And get a grip while you're at it.

View Poll Results: Worst band of all time?
Creed	21	35.00%
Coldplay	10	16.67%
U2	14	23.33%
Other (specify)	15	25.00%
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bronco67 Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 29,032	Nickelback. They're part of the new "retard rock" trend. Just look at these lyrics. I could imagine it took about 10 minutes to write this.... SOMETHING IN YOUR MOUTH Got to meet the hottie with the million dollar body They say its over budget but you?d pay her just to touch it come on Needs to hit the big screen and shoot a little love scene if Hollywood had called her she?d be gone before you holler come on Pretty little lady with the pretty pink thong every sugar daddy hittin on her all night long Doesn?t care about the money she could be with anybody, ain?t it funny how the honey wanted you all along You naughty thing You?re ripping up the dance floor honey You naughty women You shake your @ss around for everyone You?re such a mover I love the way you dance with anybody The way you swing And tease them all by sucking on your thumb Your so much cooler when you never pull it out Cause you look so much cuter with Something in Your Mouth Crafty little lip tricks tattoos on her left hip She bending as your spending There?s no ending its so baby, come on Dressed up like a princess beating that her skin smells better than the scent of every flower in the desert, come on Pretty little lady with the pretty pink thong every sugar daddy hittin on her all night long. doesn?t care about the money she could be with anybody, ain?t it funny how the honey wanted you all along You naughty thing You?re ripping up the dance floor honey You naughty women You shake your @ss around for everyone You?re such a mover I love the way you dance with anybody The way you swing And tease them all by sucking on your thumb Your so much cooler when you never pull it out Cause you look so much cuter with Something in Your Mouth Nickelback lyrics on www.lyrics-celebrities.anekatips.com She loves the night scene bar queen living for the fun Taking over every dance floor like she?s the only one In the spotlight all night dissing everyone trying to look so innocent while sucking on her thumb Your so much cooler When you never pull it out So much cuter with something in your mouth You naughty thing You?re ripping up the dance floor honey You naughty women You shake your @ss around for everyone I love the way you dance with anybody The way you swing And tease them all by sucking on your thumb You naughty thing You?re ripping up the dance floor honey You naughty women You shake that @ss around for everyone You?rw such a mover I love the way you dance with anybody The way you swing And tease them all by sucking on your thumb Your so much cooler when you never pull it out cause you look so much cuter with something in your ! __________________

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