For those that use Verotel.... - GoFuckYourself.com

Shap · 04-23-2009, 11:09 AM

WHY? You have Ccbill and Epoch that have amazing track records. For any site owner, that has decided to use 3rd party processing, using anyone besides Ccbill and Epoch is just a huge risk and mistake. Nobody feels sorry for you when shit goes wrong they just wonder WTF were you thinking.

Agent 488 · 04-23-2009, 11:13 AM

verotel is top notch stand up whatever.

Sly · 04-23-2009, 11:14 AM

I can only think of two possible reasons; one is legitimate, one should not be.

1) Nobody else will process for their content.

2) Don't want to pay the Visa fee (assuming that is still in place.)

MetaMan · 04-23-2009, 11:14 AM

Tubesssssssssssssssssssssss

Barefootsies · 04-23-2009, 11:17 AM

Shake Y'er Bon Bon Baby...

stickyfingerz · 04-23-2009, 11:19 AM

I know there are many sites that can't process else where. A lot of the fetish stuff that isn't allowed by the other 2. I have a verotel account but its not being used. Waiting to see how things come out before I add it to our ccbill cascade (think I heard its available now, or will be soon haven't taken time to look yet).

marketsmart · 04-23-2009, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Shake Y'er Bon Bon Baby...

i will sell you a picture of his feet for $17.00........

Ozarkz · 04-23-2009, 11:20 AM

fuzebox · 04-23-2009, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly

I can only think of two possible reasons; one is legitimate, one should not be.

1) Nobody else will process for their content.

Another big one was that until recently, it was difficult for Canadians to get setup with CCBill and Epoch.

xxxdesign-net · 04-23-2009, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

Another big one was that until recently, it was difficult for Canadians to get setup with CCBill and Epoch.

what do you mean until recently? CCbill is processing for canadians now?

CIVMatt · 04-23-2009, 11:41 AM

Because your cheap ass can take "tickets" and avoid paying the $750 fee I hear

stupid move...

marketsmart · 04-23-2009, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net

what do you mean until recently? CCbill is processing for canadians now?

only for the non-french canadians...

notime · 04-23-2009, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly

I can only think of two possible reasons; one is legitimate, one should not be.

1) Nobody else will process for their content.

2) Don't want to pay the Visa fee (assuming that is still in place.)

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox

Another big one was that until recently, it was difficult for Canadians to get setup with CCBill and Epoch.

You guys might wanna check out www.dialxs.com from The Netherlands

polish_aristocrat · 04-23-2009, 11:43 AM

Nylz looked much more like Ricky Martin than Shap does...

Roald · 04-23-2009, 11:45 AM

Oh come on Shap, you taking shots at processors now?

You are way better than that man ;)))

fuzebox · 04-23-2009, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net

what do you mean until recently? CCbill is processing for canadians now?

Yes, they announced it late last year.

xxxdesign-net · 04-23-2009, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

Yes, they announced it late last year.

shit, i missed the big thread...

Shoplifter · 04-23-2009, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap

WHY? You have Ccbill and Epoch that have amazing track records. For any site owner, that has decided to use 3rd party processing, using anyone besides Ccbill and Epoch is just a huge risk and mistake. Nobody feels sorry for you when shit goes wrong they just wonder WTF were you thinking.

Verotel was much better with sales and rebills for us than the other guys. 35% or so. I get the feeling that some IPSP's are even scrubbing rebills nowadays. Verotel was really good with all this, and one of the things that angers me most about their recent meltdown is that we now have to consider processing options that may not be as advantageous.

Verotel has had a couple of colossal problems right from the beginning though, the first is that their public relations are a nightmare, and the second is that their systems have not changed with the times in any way. This must be hurting them a lot...If their affiliate program options only involve MPA/NATS well why bother when I can put Zombaio in the cascade at 5%.

I truly hope they can re-invent themselves, do away with some of the outrageous fees they have, hire some management that will inspire trust and modernize their setup.

Barefootsies · 04-23-2009, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoplifter

Verotel was much better with sales and rebills for us than the other guys. 35% or so. I get the feeling that some IPSP's are even scrubbing rebills nowadays. Verotel was really good with all this

I truly hope they can re-invent themselves, do away with some of the outrageous fees they have, hire some management that will inspire trust and modernize their setup.

FreeHugeMovies · 04-23-2009, 09:05 PM

We need a Nylz pic here! Rossy?

MsCheyenne · 04-23-2009, 09:07 PM

Gee, I remember thinking how wonderful Ibill was. They were a leader in the industry for years. Now, CCbill and Epoch are great. I especially like CCbill a lot. All the same, no one should ever be completely comfortable in their credit card merchant. Always have a plan B.

Cheyenne

marketsmart · 04-23-2009, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MsCheyenne

Gee, I remember thinking how wonderful Ibill was. They were a leader in the industry for years. Now, CCbill and Epoch are great. I especially like CCbill a lot. All the same, no one should ever be completely comfortable in their credit card merchant. Always have a plan B.

Cheyenne

your avatar hurts me...

Jakez · 04-23-2009, 11:46 PM

The answer is simple, Verotel was a lot easier to get a site going with.

dialxs · 04-24-2009, 12:13 AM

You could take a look at dialxs.com , Payment Service Providers one of the leading in Europe and also covering the US ;-)

darksoul · 04-24-2009, 12:31 AM

wow Shap, when did you turn is such an asshole ? You used to be cool.

Lady Masquerade · 04-24-2009, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Jakez

The answer is simple, Verotel was a lot easier to get a site going with.

i can only agree

rowan · 04-24-2009, 01:46 AM

I use Ticketsclub on one site since it's not worth paying a yearly Visa fee. It's always been "small" (the busiest year probably netted about $15k) but that's dwindled off gradually to beer money level. Maybe $1000-$1500 a year.

RTVS · 04-24-2009, 05:46 AM

Why Verotel: Well because of the following:

We offer totally FREE third party billing accounts as well as own merchant accounts.

o Competitive Processing Rates and Volume Discounts
o Higher conversion rates compared to our competitors
o We payout like clockwork and have never missed a payment!
o Weekly payouts in US Dollars, Euros or British Pounds
o We support MULTI-CURRENCY BILLING ? enabling you to increase your revenue!
o We are in Europe and European rules and regulations are different than in the US.
o We are certified with Visa and MasterCard as a Payment Service Provider (PSP).
o We are PCI and DSS certified with Visa and MasterCard.
o We hold your money securely in an independently managed Escrow account. This means your funds are safe and secure no matter what.
o We are in payment processing since 1998.

If you have any additional questions or you need more information, please feel free to contact us.

Have a good weekend.

Robbert van Schaick
Merchant Relationship Executive
Verotel Merchant Services BV
Tel: +31 20 320 88 33
Fax: +31 20 320 88 32

HorseShit · 04-24-2009, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by darksoul

wow shap, when did you turn is such an asshole ? You used to be cool.

He's not an asshole

Ross · 04-24-2009, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by FreeHugeMovies

We need a Nylz pic here! Rossy?

Yes Sir?

Drake · 04-24-2009, 06:32 AM

It can't hurt to have another processor in your cascade. Just put it dead last in the cascade.

grumpy · 04-24-2009, 06:46 AM

no problems here with Verotel.

FreeHugeMovies · 04-24-2009, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ross

yes sir?

tranny!
!!

sortie · 04-24-2009, 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap

WHY? You have Ccbill and Epoch that have amazing track records. For any site owner, that has decided to use 3rd party processing, using anyone besides Ccbill and Epoch is just a huge risk and mistake. Nobody feels sorry for you when shit goes wrong they just wonder WTF were you thinking.

Maybe they all left IBill.

Which, if this was 6 years ago, your post would have included Ibill along with Epoch and CCBill as having amazing track records.

Barefootsies · 04-24-2009, 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross

Yes Sir?

Looks more like Vanilla Ice

04-23-2009, 11:09 AM	#1
Shap Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 8,313	For those that use Verotel.... WHY? You have Ccbill and Epoch that have amazing track records. For any site owner, that has decided to use 3rd party processing, using anyone besides Ccbill and Epoch is just a huge risk and mistake. Nobody feels sorry for you when shit goes wrong they just wonder WTF were you thinking.

04-23-2009, 11:14 AM	#3
Sly Let's do some business! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 31,365	I can only think of two possible reasons; one is legitimate, one should not be. 1) Nobody else will process for their content. 2) Don't want to pay the Visa fee (assuming that is still in place.) __________________ Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted Windows VPS now available Great for TSS, Nifty Stats, remote work, virtual assistants, etc. Click here for more details.

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04-23-2009, 11:13 AM	#2
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04-24-2009, 01:46 AM	#27
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	I use Ticketsclub on one site since it's not worth paying a yearly Visa fee. It's always been "small" (the busiest year probably netted about $15k) but that's dwindled off gradually to beer money level. Maybe $1000-$1500 a year.

04-24-2009, 05:46 AM	#28
RTVS Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 17	Why Verotel: Well because of the following: We offer totally FREE third party billing accounts as well as own merchant accounts. o Competitive Processing Rates and Volume Discounts o Higher conversion rates compared to our competitors o We payout like clockwork and have never missed a payment! o Weekly payouts in US Dollars, Euros or British Pounds o We support MULTI-CURRENCY BILLING ? enabling you to increase your revenue! o We are in Europe and European rules and regulations are different than in the US. o We are certified with Visa and MasterCard as a Payment Service Provider (PSP). o We are PCI and DSS certified with Visa and MasterCard. o We hold your money securely in an independently managed Escrow account. This means your funds are safe and secure no matter what. o We are in payment processing since 1998. If you have any additional questions or you need more information, please feel free to contact us. Have a good weekend. Robbert van Schaick Merchant Relationship Executive Verotel Merchant Services BV Tel: +31 20 320 88 33 Fax: +31 20 320 88 32

04-24-2009, 06:32 AM	#31
Drake Hello world! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 12,508	It can't hurt to have another processor in your cascade. Just put it dead last in the cascade.

04-24-2009, 06:46 AM	#32
grumpy Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 9,870	no problems here with Verotel. __________________ Don't let greediness blur your vision \| You gotta let some shit slide icq - 441-456-888