ePassporte - ATM Protection Program - GoFuckYourself.com

Michael O · 04-08-2009, 09:17 AM

ePassporte has been notified of increased unauthorized ATM activity. In order to protect you, ePassporte has implemented the ATM Protection Program. Your new Standard ATM Limits are as follows:

Standard Daily ATM Transaction Limit: 2
Standard Total Daily ATM Withdrawal Limit: $300.00

While your Standard ATM Limits are active, you are protected against unauthorized ATM transactions up to US$300, per day.

Other purchase and withdrawal limits on your ePassporte account will remain unchanged.

You may currently have a pre-authorized withdrawal limit greater than the limits listed above (“Personal ATM Limits”). You activate your Personal ATM Limits at three-hour intervals by following the steps in the Manage Visa Card(s) section on the ePassporte website. While your Personal ATM Limits are active, you will be required to accept full liability for all unauthorized activity on your account.

You may choose to opt-out of the ATM Protection Program and set your Personal ATM Limits as the default limit, but by choosing to do this, you agree to accept and assume full liability for all unauthorized ATM transactions on your account.

To learn more about the ATM Protection Program, please visit our Terms and Conditions at ePassporte.com.

Thank you.

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This means if you have higher limits than $300 per day you need to activate the higher limits and withdraw within 3 hours of doing so to be able to withdraw more than $300 per day after the 3 hours are up your limits will go back to $300.
Alternatively you can opt out of the ATM Protection Program and will be able to withdraw the full daily limit at any time but you will be responsible for ALL unauthorized transaction done on your Electron card.

You can active your higher limits inside your account or by calling CS at +1.310.301.2001

If you have any questions feel free to ask them here or send me a email to [email protected]

who · 04-08-2009, 09:19 AM

I like the line about making the customer fully liable for all withdrawals.

Darkcrni · 04-08-2009, 09:21 AM

Here's a bump for you M!

Agent 488 · 04-08-2009, 09:22 AM

michael i am getting this right after i enter my password:

Oops!

We can't find the page you requested on our server. If you want to help us fix the problem you can email us at [email protected] and let us know where you see the problem.

Michael O · 04-08-2009, 09:23 AM

If you have problems logging in please wait 5 minutes and try again.

Varius · 04-08-2009, 09:23 AM

Trying to login (after submitting password):

Oops!

We can't find the page you requested on our server. If you want to help us fix the problem you can email us at [email protected] and let us know where you see the problem.

I think you guys might have wanted to forward to a news page about this change, but are sending to a 404 instead.

From that 404 page though, clicking the top menu buttons though I can still access my account fine so it's not too big a deal, just letting you know

who · 04-08-2009, 09:25 AM

Everyone who opts out is going to get royally screwed.

Varius · 04-08-2009, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by who

Everyone who opts out is going to get royally screwed.

I opted out, so I better not

Agent 488 · 04-08-2009, 09:30 AM

ok works now.

SmokeyTheBear · 04-08-2009, 09:32 AM

how are the thieves withdrawing money from accounts they dont own ? Dont they actually need the card to do that ?

I could be wrong but i would think the ONLY way this would happen is thieves who copy the actual card itself at the point of transaction ( i.e. swipe/atm ). This must be rather rare and couldnt affect epassporte more than any other institution right ? i don't see how there could be a sudden increase unless its an epassporte employee or someone snagging the cards before they reach their destination .. in these cases i would think epassporte has a problem

Just out of curiosity , if an atm is duped and found does visa reimburse you anything for the stolen transactions ?

Darkcrni · 04-08-2009, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Varius

Trying to login (after submitting password):

Oops!

We can't find the page you requested on our server. If you want to help us fix the problem you can email us at [email protected] and let us know where you see the problem.

I think you guys might have wanted to forward to a news page about this change, but are sending to a 404 instead.

From that 404 page though, clicking the top menu buttons though I can still access my account fine so it's not too big a deal, just letting you know

Yup me too! And im already made a thread about this one! Im an idiot! Just disregard that one threat!!!

Michael O · 04-08-2009, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

how are the thieves withdrawing money from accounts they dont own ? Dont they actually need the card to do that ?

I could be wrong but i would think the ONLY way this would happen is thieves who copy the actual card itself at the point of transaction ( i.e. swipe/atm ). This must be rather rare and couldnt affect epassporte more than any other institution right ? i don't see how there could be a sudden increase unless its an epassporte employee or someone snagging the cards before they reach their destination .. in these cases i would think epassporte has a problem

Just out of curiosity , if an atm is duped and found does visa reimburse you anything for the stolen transactions ?

This is an issue of cards being copied at the ATM/swipe. This have been a major problem in many countries for years and the scammers gets more and more sophisticated and the problem is on the rise.

For you other point instead of just ignoring it since you are always insinuating things like this I will say:
We receive the cards in sealed envelopes from the printer, we ship the cards the Account Holder then activates the card and choose a PIN of their own.

BlackElf · 04-08-2009, 09:55 AM

FYI - it is not just at ATMs

There are places that employees will take your card to charge it and before giving it back to you they will swipe it in a Card Copy device

I know it happened in the past at Full service Gas stations

Card Copy device are small and can store many cards info in memory.

SmokeyTheBear · 04-08-2009, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael O

This is an issue of cards being copied at the ATM/swipe. This have been a major problem in many countries for years and the scammers gets more and more sophisticated and the problem is on the rise.

because of the unique position of epassporte being purely online , couldnt there be another solution , like rotating pin numbers ?

like 5 pin numbers , once a withdraw takes place the pin rotates to a new pin

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael O

For you other point instead of just ignoring it since you are always insinuating things like this I will say:

whoah there, i think you take my questions too personally michael. I own a business, i know employees steal shit, i certainly dont think epass employees are any less trustworthy than employees of visa or mastercard, with that being said , i think employees of visa and mastercard steal shit just like every other companies. I was merely ruling out the most obvious suspects.

seeandsee · 04-08-2009, 10:30 AM

don't really get this, can somebody explain a little bit? When i set limit to 300$ to day, what protection do i get?

Michael O · 04-08-2009, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seeandsee

don't really get this, can somebody explain a little bit? When i set limit to 300$ to day, what protection do i get?

If you use the protection program and your card is cloned and someone takes out $300 then the money can be recovered.
If you don't use the protection program there is no chance of getting the funds back.

moeloubani · 04-08-2009, 11:02 AM

so is this actually an increase in total withdrawal daily for some accounts? like now can i take out 2 x $300 a day vs $320 a day?

V_RocKs · 04-08-2009, 11:08 AM

I like my $5K limit just how it is, thanks!

Michael O · 04-08-2009, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moeloubani

so is this actually an increase in total withdrawal daily for some accounts? like now can i take out 2 x $300 a day vs $320 a day?

No you have 2 transaction with a $300 total maximum.

Wizzo · 04-08-2009, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

because of the unique position of epassporte being purely online , couldnt there be another solution , like rotating pin numbers ?

like 5 pin numbers , once a withdraw takes place the pin rotates to a new pin

Some of us that make nearly daily withdrawals that would be a major pain...

seeandsee · 04-08-2009, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael O

If you use the protection program and your card is cloned and someone takes out $300 then the money can be recovered.
If you don't use the protection program there is no chance of getting the funds back.

thanks M.O. , i get it now

Fabien · 04-08-2009, 11:24 AM

Sorry my english sucks ass.

I was able to widthdraw 500$ everyday. Now it's only 300$ (2 transactions max) and there is a way to put it back to 500$ only for 3 hours ? After it goes back to 300$ ? You need to activate (or whatever) something each time if you want to withdraw more than 300$ ?

Sorry again.
I'm learning spanish, maybe i should push more for my english hahahahahahah

Mr.Right - Banned For Life · 04-08-2009, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fabien

Sorry my english sucks ass.

I was able to widthdraw 500$ everyday. Now it's only 300$ (2 transactions max) and there is a way to put it back to 500$ only for 3 hours ? After it goes back to 300$ ? You need to activate (or whatever) something each time if you want to withdraw more than 300$ ?

Sorry again.
I'm learning spanish, maybe i should push more for my english hahahahahahah

You can completely deactivate this feature. Just go to your Cards and click the "opt out" link on the bottom.

Good stuff Michael

urbanpimp · 04-08-2009, 11:38 AM

Michael... You just fixed my problem.
Thanks again for great service.

digifan · 04-08-2009, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael O

This is an issue of cards being copied at the ATM/swipe. This have been a major problem in many countries for years and the scammers gets more and more sophisticated and the problem is on the rise.

For you other point instead of just ignoring it since you are always insinuating things like this I will say:
We receive the cards in sealed envelopes from the printer, we ship the cards the Account Holder then activates the card and choose a PIN of their own.

Ethersync · 04-08-2009, 12:18 PM

Keep money in your ePass Wallet and transfer to your card as needed...

Michael O · 04-08-2009, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ethersync

Keep money in your ePass Wallet and transfer to your card as needed...

Yes this is the optimal solution.

jonnax · 04-08-2009, 02:04 PM

Does epass cards support this embedded micro-computer chip technology nowdays?

Klen · 04-08-2009, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael O

Yes this is the optimal solution.

This is why i am confused with this feature.I mean it is enough to put default load on wallet,and when you need to withdraw money or buy something with virtual visa transfer amount which you need and problem solved.Works perfectly fine.

SmokeyTheBear · 04-08-2009, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wizzo

Some of us that make nearly daily withdrawals that would be a major pain...

5 pins shouldnt be a major pain, you just use the next pin everytime you withdraw funds

even 2 sets of pins would seriously thwart theft, even if they happened to hit the right one at the right time they can't do it twice

pornguy · 04-08-2009, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

how are the thieves withdrawing money from accounts they dont own ? Dont they actually need the card to do that ?

I could be wrong but i would think the ONLY way this would happen is thieves who copy the actual card itself at the point of transaction ( i.e. swipe/atm ). This must be rather rare and couldnt affect epassporte more than any other institution right ? i don't see how there could be a sudden increase unless its an epassporte employee or someone snagging the cards before they reach their destination .. in these cases i would think epassporte has a problem

Just out of curiosity , if an atm is duped and found does visa reimburse you anything for the stolen transactions ?

Sounds to me more like DOUBLE atm Fees.

bdld · 04-08-2009, 03:42 PM

it does mean more atm fees but you can opt out of this and leave your account as is.

papill0n · 04-08-2009, 03:46 PM

More security can only be a good thing

Nicky · 04-08-2009, 03:48 PM

Okey dokey

Michael O · 04-08-2009, 03:48 PM

It does not mean more fees.
If you log in to your account and click Visa Cards --> ATM Protection Program --> Activate Personal Limits then your limits is exactly the same as before.

This is to protect against fraud but it is voluntary and you have the option to opt out and accept the risk.

With a call to CS you can also get the Personal Limits activated/deactivated.

Michael O · 04-08-2009, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

This is why i am confused with this feature.I mean it is enough to put default load on wallet,and when you need to withdraw money or buy something with virtual visa transfer amount which you need and problem solved.Works perfectly fine.

That is what I personally do but I still use the new feature just in case.

CaptainHowdy · 04-08-2009, 04:41 PM

Mind if I say: I LOVE EPASS ??

beta-tester · 04-08-2009, 05:08 PM

nice feature definitely. It should be good to have email sent whenever the money withdrawal is done also. That way you can easily track all the transactions that happen on your account.

Basic_man · 04-08-2009, 05:10 PM

Way to go ePass!

Tempest · 04-08-2009, 07:44 PM

Don't understand why this is required given the wallet feature works really well at preventing anyone (including me when I've forgotten to xfr the funds) from withdrawing anything.. Except for the morons that don't use it and they deserve to get ass fucked.

woj · 04-08-2009, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

because of the unique position of epassporte being purely online , couldnt there be another solution , like rotating pin numbers ?

like 5 pin numbers , once a withdraw takes place the pin rotates to a new pin

pornguy · 04-08-2009, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael O

It does not mean more fees.
If you log in to your account and click Visa Cards --> ATM Protection Program --> Activate Personal Limits then your limits is exactly the same as before.

This is to protect against fraud but it is voluntary and you have the option to opt out and accept the risk.

With a call to CS you can also get the Personal Limits activated/deactivated.

Did not know you could do that., Its nice because of us we get hit with 2 fees here from the ATM plus the EPass fees so 1 big with drawl is better than 2 or 3

pornguy · 04-08-2009, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj

Hahahahah.. Have one of those sitting on my desk.

blonda80 · 04-09-2009, 04:27 AM

bump for Michael

Bhunter · 04-09-2009, 07:52 AM

are you familiar with security measures in the Netherlands?

i use the card to withdraw only at few ATM's around my area.

The $300 limit is to low for me.

teg0 · 04-09-2009, 07:55 AM

Not sure if I like this feature yet, we'll see.

Michael O · 04-09-2009, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bhunter

are you familiar with security measures in the Netherlands?

i use the card to withdraw only at few ATM's around my area.

The $300 limit is to low for me.

You can still use your old limits.
Log in and click Visa Cards -> ATM Protection Program -> Activate Personal Limits and you will have your regular limits for 3 hours

pornocruto · 04-09-2009, 08:17 AM

Just another step to prevent fraud, i like it.

For those who dont, they can simply opt out.. Good call ePass!

fuzebox · 04-09-2009, 03:12 PM

My withdraw limit has been $520 for the last 4 years... Now after opting out of the protection program it is still at $300

Michael O · 04-09-2009, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox

My withdraw limit has been $520 for the last 4 years... Now after opting out of the protection program it is still at $300

Please email me your UserID to [email protected] then I will look into it.

04-08-2009, 09:17 AM	#1
Michael O More Cowbell Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Nakhom Nowhere Posts: 10,607	ePassporte - ATM Protection Program ePassporte has been notified of increased unauthorized ATM activity. In order to protect you, ePassporte has implemented the ATM Protection Program. Your new Standard ATM Limits are as follows: Standard Daily ATM Transaction Limit: 2 Standard Total Daily ATM Withdrawal Limit: $300.00 While your Standard ATM Limits are active, you are protected against unauthorized ATM transactions up to US$300, per day. Other purchase and withdrawal limits on your ePassporte account will remain unchanged. You may currently have a pre-authorized withdrawal limit greater than the limits listed above (“Personal ATM Limits”). You activate your Personal ATM Limits at three-hour intervals by following the steps in the Manage Visa Card(s) section on the ePassporte website. While your Personal ATM Limits are active, you will be required to accept full liability for all unauthorized activity on your account. You may choose to opt-out of the ATM Protection Program and set your Personal ATM Limits as the default limit, but by choosing to do this, you agree to accept and assume full liability for all unauthorized ATM transactions on your account. To learn more about the ATM Protection Program, please visit our Terms and Conditions at ePassporte.com. Thank you. ------------ This means if you have higher limits than $300 per day you need to activate the higher limits and withdraw within 3 hours of doing so to be able to withdraw more than $300 per day after the 3 hours are up your limits will go back to $300. Alternatively you can opt out of the ATM Protection Program and will be able to withdraw the full daily limit at any time but you will be responsible for ALL unauthorized transaction done on your Electron card. You can active your higher limits inside your account or by calling CS at +1.310.301.2001 If you have any questions feel free to ask them here or send me a email to [email protected] __________________ Truth Teller

04-08-2009, 09:23 AM	#5
Michael O More Cowbell Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Nakhom Nowhere Posts: 10,607	If you have problems logging in please wait 5 minutes and try again. __________________ Truth Teller

04-08-2009, 09:23 AM	#6
Varius Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: New York, NY Posts: 6,890	Trying to login (after submitting password): Oops! We can't find the page you requested on our server. If you want to help us fix the problem you can email us at [email protected] and let us know where you see the problem. I think you guys might have wanted to forward to a news page about this change, but are sending to a 404 instead. From that 404 page though, clicking the top menu buttons though I can still access my account fine so it's not too big a deal, just letting you know __________________ Skype variuscr - Email varius AT gmail

04-08-2009, 09:32 AM	#10
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	how are the thieves withdrawing money from accounts they dont own ? Dont they actually need the card to do that ? I could be wrong but i would think the ONLY way this would happen is thieves who copy the actual card itself at the point of transaction ( i.e. swipe/atm ). This must be rather rare and couldnt affect epassporte more than any other institution right ? i don't see how there could be a sudden increase unless its an epassporte employee or someone snagging the cards before they reach their destination .. in these cases i would think epassporte has a problem Just out of curiosity , if an atm is duped and found does visa reimburse you anything for the stolen transactions ? __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

04-08-2009, 09:55 AM	#13
BlackElf Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: email: exhelp(AT)bibar\|DOT\|com Posts: 1,171	FYI - it is not just at ATMs There are places that employees will take your card to charge it and before giving it back to you they will swipe it in a Card Copy device I know it happened in the past at Full service Gas stations Card Copy device are small and can store many cards info in memory. __________________ exhelp AT bibar \| DOT \| com (please include your ICQ when emailing me) What ppl say about BlackElf

04-08-2009, 09:19 AM	#2
who So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: ICQ #23642053 Posts: 19,593	I like the line about making the customer fully liable for all withdrawals.

04-08-2009, 09:21 AM	#3
Darkcrni Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Right Around The Corner Posts: 1,704	Here's a bump for you M!

04-08-2009, 09:22 AM	#4
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	michael i am getting this right after i enter my password: Oops! We can't find the page you requested on our server. If you want to help us fix the problem you can email us at [email protected] and let us know where you see the problem.

04-08-2009, 09:25 AM	#7
who So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: ICQ #23642053 Posts: 19,593	Everyone who opts out is going to get royally screwed.

04-08-2009, 09:30 AM	#9
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	ok works now.

04-08-2009, 10:30 AM	#15
seeandsee Check SIG! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Europe (Skype: gojkoas) Posts: 50,945	don't really get this, can somebody explain a little bit? When i set limit to 300$ to day, what protection do i get? __________________ BUY MY SIG - 50$/Year Contact here

04-08-2009, 11:02 AM	#17
moeloubani Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ontario Posts: 4,235	so is this actually an increase in total withdrawal daily for some accounts? like now can i take out 2 x $300 a day vs $320 a day?

04-08-2009, 11:08 AM	#18
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,409	I like my $5K limit just how it is, thanks!

04-08-2009, 11:24 AM	#22
Fabien Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4,787	Sorry my english sucks ass. I was able to widthdraw 500$ everyday. Now it's only 300$ (2 transactions max) and there is a way to put it back to 500$ only for 3 hours ? After it goes back to 300$ ? You need to activate (or whatever) something each time if you want to withdraw more than 300$ ? Sorry again. I'm learning spanish, maybe i should push more for my english hahahahahahah

04-08-2009, 11:38 AM	#24
urbanpimp Confirmed User Join Date: May 2007 Location: xxx Posts: 524	Michael... You just fixed my problem. Thanks again for great service.

04-08-2009, 12:18 PM	#26
Ethersync Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: London, Saint-Tropez, Bermuda, Moscow Posts: 5,289	Keep money in your ePass Wallet and transfer to your card as needed...

04-08-2009, 02:04 PM	#28
jonnax Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 187	Does epass cards support this embedded micro-computer chip technology nowdays?

04-08-2009, 03:42 PM	#32
bdld $100,000 Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 11,452	it does mean more atm fees but you can opt out of this and leave your account as is.

04-08-2009, 03:46 PM	#33
papill0n Unregistered Abuser Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 15,547	More security can only be a good thing

04-08-2009, 03:48 PM	#34
Nicky Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 30,069	Okey dokey __________________ gfynicky @ gmail.com

04-08-2009, 04:41 PM	#37
CaptainHowdy Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Happy in the dark. Posts: 93,558	Mind if I say: I LOVE EPASS ??

04-08-2009, 05:08 PM	#38
beta-tester Rock 'n Roll Baby! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: USA, temporarly Posts: 22,562	nice feature definitely. It should be good to have email sent whenever the money withdrawal is done also. That way you can easily track all the transactions that happen on your account. __________________ Sig for sale. Affordable prices. Contact me and get a great deal ;) My contact: ICQ: 944-320-46 e-mail: manca {AT} HotFreeSex4All.com

04-08-2009, 05:10 PM	#39
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04-08-2009, 07:44 PM	#40
Tempest Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Location: West Coast, Canada. Posts: 10,217	Don't understand why this is required given the wallet feature works really well at preventing anyone (including me when I've forgotten to xfr the funds) from withdrawing anything.. Except for the morons that don't use it and they deserve to get ass fucked.

04-09-2009, 04:27 AM	#44
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04-09-2009, 07:52 AM	#45
Bhunter Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 1,119	are you familiar with security measures in the Netherlands? i use the card to withdraw only at few ATM's around my area. The $300 limit is to low for me.

04-09-2009, 07:55 AM	#46
teg0 Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Gringo in Puerto Rico Posts: 4,204	Not sure if I like this feature yet, we'll see.

04-09-2009, 08:17 AM	#48
pornocruto Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,308	Just another step to prevent fraud, i like it. For those who dont, they can simply opt out.. Good call ePass! __________________ Promote EXTREME porn Earn EXTREME $$$$ Only @ cash.pornocruto.es

04-09-2009, 03:12 PM	#49
fuzebox making it rain Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 22,110	My withdraw limit has been $520 for the last 4 years... Now after opting out of the protection program it is still at $300