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Michael O 04-08-2009 09:17 AM

ePassporte - ATM Protection Program
 
ePassporte has been notified of increased unauthorized ATM activity. In order to protect you, ePassporte has implemented the ATM Protection Program. Your new Standard ATM Limits are as follows:

Standard Daily ATM Transaction Limit: 2
Standard Total Daily ATM Withdrawal Limit: $300.00

While your Standard ATM Limits are active, you are protected against unauthorized ATM transactions up to US$300, per day.

Other purchase and withdrawal limits on your ePassporte account will remain unchanged.

You may currently have a pre-authorized withdrawal limit greater than the limits listed above (“Personal ATM Limits”). You activate your Personal ATM Limits at three-hour intervals by following the steps in the Manage Visa Card(s) section on the ePassporte website. While your Personal ATM Limits are active, you will be required to accept full liability for all unauthorized activity on your account.

You may choose to opt-out of the ATM Protection Program and set your Personal ATM Limits as the default limit, but by choosing to do this, you agree to accept and assume full liability for all unauthorized ATM transactions on your account.

To learn more about the ATM Protection Program, please visit our Terms and Conditions at ePassporte.com.

Thank you.

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This means if you have higher limits than $300 per day you need to activate the higher limits and withdraw within 3 hours of doing so to be able to withdraw more than $300 per day after the 3 hours are up your limits will go back to $300.
Alternatively you can opt out of the ATM Protection Program and will be able to withdraw the full daily limit at any time but you will be responsible for ALL unauthorized transaction done on your Electron card.

You can active your higher limits inside your account or by calling CS at +1.310.301.2001

If you have any questions feel free to ask them here or send me a email to [email protected]

who 04-08-2009 09:19 AM

I like the line about making the customer fully liable for all withdrawals.

Darkcrni 04-08-2009 09:21 AM

Here's a bump for you M!

Agent 488 04-08-2009 09:22 AM

michael i am getting this right after i enter my password:

Oops!

We can't find the page you requested on our server. If you want to help us fix the problem you can email us at [email protected] and let us know where you see the problem.

Michael O 04-08-2009 09:23 AM

If you have problems logging in please wait 5 minutes and try again.

Varius 04-08-2009 09:23 AM

Trying to login (after submitting password):

Oops!

We can't find the page you requested on our server. If you want to help us fix the problem you can email us at [email protected] and let us know where you see the problem.

I think you guys might have wanted to forward to a news page about this change, but are sending to a 404 instead.

From that 404 page though, clicking the top menu buttons though I can still access my account fine so it's not too big a deal, just letting you know :winkwink:

who 04-08-2009 09:25 AM

Everyone who opts out is going to get royally screwed.

Varius 04-08-2009 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by who (Post 15721373)
Everyone who opts out is going to get royally screwed.

I opted out, so I better not :upsidedow

Agent 488 04-08-2009 09:30 AM

ok works now.

SmokeyTheBear 04-08-2009 09:32 AM

how are the thieves withdrawing money from accounts they dont own ? Dont they actually need the card to do that ?

I could be wrong but i would think the ONLY way this would happen is thieves who copy the actual card itself at the point of transaction ( i.e. swipe/atm ). This must be rather rare and couldnt affect epassporte more than any other institution right ? i don't see how there could be a sudden increase unless its an epassporte employee or someone snagging the cards before they reach their destination .. in these cases i would think epassporte has a problem

Just out of curiosity , if an atm is duped and found does visa reimburse you anything for the stolen transactions ?

Darkcrni 04-08-2009 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Varius (Post 15721369)
Trying to login (after submitting password):

Oops!

We can't find the page you requested on our server. If you want to help us fix the problem you can email us at [email protected] and let us know where you see the problem.

I think you guys might have wanted to forward to a news page about this change, but are sending to a 404 instead.

From that 404 page though, clicking the top menu buttons though I can still access my account fine so it's not too big a deal, just letting you know :winkwink:



Yup me too! And im already made a thread about this one! Im an idiot! Just disregard that one threat!!!

Michael O 04-08-2009 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 15721409)
how are the thieves withdrawing money from accounts they dont own ? Dont they actually need the card to do that ?

I could be wrong but i would think the ONLY way this would happen is thieves who copy the actual card itself at the point of transaction ( i.e. swipe/atm ). This must be rather rare and couldnt affect epassporte more than any other institution right ? i don't see how there could be a sudden increase unless its an epassporte employee or someone snagging the cards before they reach their destination .. in these cases i would think epassporte has a problem

Just out of curiosity , if an atm is duped and found does visa reimburse you anything for the stolen transactions ?


This is an issue of cards being copied at the ATM/swipe. This have been a major problem in many countries for years and the scammers gets more and more sophisticated and the problem is on the rise.

For you other point instead of just ignoring it since you are always insinuating things like this I will say:
We receive the cards in sealed envelopes from the printer, we ship the cards the Account Holder then activates the card and choose a PIN of their own.

BlackElf 04-08-2009 09:55 AM

FYI - it is not just at ATMs :(
There are places that employees will take your card to charge it and before giving it back to you they will swipe it in a Card Copy device :(
I know it happened in the past at Full service Gas stations :(

Card Copy device are small and can store many cards info in memory.

SmokeyTheBear 04-08-2009 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 15721448)
This is an issue of cards being copied at the ATM/swipe. This have been a major problem in many countries for years and the scammers gets more and more sophisticated and the problem is on the rise.

because of the unique position of epassporte being purely online , couldnt there be another solution , like rotating pin numbers ?

like 5 pin numbers , once a withdraw takes place the pin rotates to a new pin


Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 15721448)
For you other point instead of just ignoring it since you are always insinuating things like this I will say:

whoah there, i think you take my questions too personally michael. I own a business, i know employees steal shit, i certainly dont think epass employees are any less trustworthy than employees of visa or mastercard, with that being said , i think employees of visa and mastercard steal shit just like every other companies. I was merely ruling out the most obvious suspects.
:thumbsup

seeandsee 04-08-2009 10:30 AM

don't really get this, can somebody explain a little bit? When i set limit to 300$ to day, what protection do i get?

Michael O 04-08-2009 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seeandsee (Post 15721589)
don't really get this, can somebody explain a little bit? When i set limit to 300$ to day, what protection do i get?

If you use the protection program and your card is cloned and someone takes out $300 then the money can be recovered.
If you don't use the protection program there is no chance of getting the funds back.

moeloubani 04-08-2009 11:02 AM

so is this actually an increase in total withdrawal daily for some accounts? like now can i take out 2 x $300 a day vs $320 a day?

V_RocKs 04-08-2009 11:08 AM

I like my $5K limit just how it is, thanks!

Michael O 04-08-2009 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 15721692)
so is this actually an increase in total withdrawal daily for some accounts? like now can i take out 2 x $300 a day vs $320 a day?

No you have 2 transaction with a $300 total maximum.

Wizzo 04-08-2009 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 15721509)
because of the unique position of epassporte being purely online , couldnt there be another solution , like rotating pin numbers ?

like 5 pin numbers , once a withdraw takes place the pin rotates to a new pin

Some of us that make nearly daily withdrawals that would be a major pain... :Oh crap

seeandsee 04-08-2009 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 15721660)
If you use the protection program and your card is cloned and someone takes out $300 then the money can be recovered.
If you don't use the protection program there is no chance of getting the funds back.

thanks M.O. , i get it now :thumbsup

Fabien 04-08-2009 11:24 AM

Sorry my english sucks ass.

I was able to widthdraw 500$ everyday. Now it's only 300$ (2 transactions max) and there is a way to put it back to 500$ only for 3 hours ? After it goes back to 300$ ? You need to activate (or whatever) something each time if you want to withdraw more than 300$ ?

Sorry again.
I'm learning spanish, maybe i should push more for my english hahahahahahah

Mr.Right - Banned For Life 04-08-2009 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fabien (Post 15721800)
Sorry my english sucks ass.

I was able to widthdraw 500$ everyday. Now it's only 300$ (2 transactions max) and there is a way to put it back to 500$ only for 3 hours ? After it goes back to 300$ ? You need to activate (or whatever) something each time if you want to withdraw more than 300$ ?

Sorry again.
I'm learning spanish, maybe i should push more for my english hahahahahahah

You can completely deactivate this feature. Just go to your Cards and click the "opt out" link on the bottom.



Good stuff Michael :thumbsup

urbanpimp 04-08-2009 11:38 AM

Michael... You just fixed my problem.
Thanks again for great service.

digifan 04-08-2009 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 15721448)
This is an issue of cards being copied at the ATM/swipe. This have been a major problem in many countries for years and the scammers gets more and more sophisticated and the problem is on the rise.

For you other point instead of just ignoring it since you are always insinuating things like this I will say:
We receive the cards in sealed envelopes from the printer, we ship the cards the Account Holder then activates the card and choose a PIN of their own.

:thumbsup

Ethersync 04-08-2009 12:18 PM

Keep money in your ePass Wallet and transfer to your card as needed... :2 cents:

Michael O 04-08-2009 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ethersync (Post 15722042)
Keep money in your ePass Wallet and transfer to your card as needed... :2 cents:

Yes this is the optimal solution.

jonnax 04-08-2009 02:04 PM

Does epass cards support this embedded micro-computer chip technology nowdays?

Klen 04-08-2009 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 15722058)
Yes this is the optimal solution.

This is why i am confused with this feature.I mean it is enough to put default load on wallet,and when you need to withdraw money or buy something with virtual visa transfer amount which you need and problem solved.Works perfectly fine.

SmokeyTheBear 04-08-2009 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wizzo (Post 15721765)
Some of us that make nearly daily withdrawals that would be a major pain... :Oh crap

5 pins shouldnt be a major pain, you just use the next pin everytime you withdraw funds

even 2 sets of pins would seriously thwart theft, even if they happened to hit the right one at the right time they can't do it twice

pornguy 04-08-2009 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 15721409)
how are the thieves withdrawing money from accounts they dont own ? Dont they actually need the card to do that ?

I could be wrong but i would think the ONLY way this would happen is thieves who copy the actual card itself at the point of transaction ( i.e. swipe/atm ). This must be rather rare and couldnt affect epassporte more than any other institution right ? i don't see how there could be a sudden increase unless its an epassporte employee or someone snagging the cards before they reach their destination .. in these cases i would think epassporte has a problem

Just out of curiosity , if an atm is duped and found does visa reimburse you anything for the stolen transactions ?

Sounds to me more like DOUBLE atm Fees.

bdld 04-08-2009 03:42 PM

it does mean more atm fees but you can opt out of this and leave your account as is.

papill0n 04-08-2009 03:46 PM

More security can only be a good thing :thumbsup

Nicky 04-08-2009 03:48 PM

Okey dokey

Michael O 04-08-2009 03:48 PM

It does not mean more fees.
If you log in to your account and click Visa Cards --> ATM Protection Program --> Activate Personal Limits then your limits is exactly the same as before.

This is to protect against fraud but it is voluntary and you have the option to opt out and accept the risk.

With a call to CS you can also get the Personal Limits activated/deactivated.

Michael O 04-08-2009 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 15722553)
This is why i am confused with this feature.I mean it is enough to put default load on wallet,and when you need to withdraw money or buy something with virtual visa transfer amount which you need and problem solved.Works perfectly fine.


That is what I personally do but I still use the new feature just in case.

CaptainHowdy 04-08-2009 04:41 PM

Mind if I say: I LOVE EPASS ??

beta-tester 04-08-2009 05:08 PM

nice feature definitely. It should be good to have email sent whenever the money withdrawal is done also. That way you can easily track all the transactions that happen on your account.

Basic_man 04-08-2009 05:10 PM

Way to go ePass! :)

Tempest 04-08-2009 07:44 PM

Don't understand why this is required given the wallet feature works really well at preventing anyone (including me when I've forgotten to xfr the funds) from withdrawing anything.. Except for the morons that don't use it and they deserve to get ass fucked.

woj 04-08-2009 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 15721509)
because of the unique position of epassporte being purely online , couldnt there be another solution , like rotating pin numbers ?

like 5 pin numbers , once a withdraw takes place the pin rotates to a new pin

http://www.singlehop.com/images/rsakeyfob.gif
:thumbsup

pornguy 04-08-2009 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 15723055)
It does not mean more fees.
If you log in to your account and click Visa Cards --> ATM Protection Program --> Activate Personal Limits then your limits is exactly the same as before.

This is to protect against fraud but it is voluntary and you have the option to opt out and accept the risk.

With a call to CS you can also get the Personal Limits activated/deactivated.

Did not know you could do that., Its nice because of us we get hit with 2 fees here from the ATM plus the EPass fees so 1 big with drawl is better than 2 or 3

pornguy 04-08-2009 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 15723883)

Hahahahah.. Have one of those sitting on my desk.

blonda80 04-09-2009 04:27 AM

bump for Michael :)

Bhunter 04-09-2009 07:52 AM

are you familiar with security measures in the Netherlands?

i use the card to withdraw only at few ATM's around my area.

The $300 limit is to low for me.

teg0 04-09-2009 07:55 AM

Not sure if I like this feature yet, we'll see.

Michael O 04-09-2009 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bhunter (Post 15725579)
are you familiar with security measures in the Netherlands?

i use the card to withdraw only at few ATM's around my area.

The $300 limit is to low for me.

You can still use your old limits.
Log in and click Visa Cards -> ATM Protection Program -> Activate Personal Limits and you will have your regular limits for 3 hours

pornocruto 04-09-2009 08:17 AM

Just another step to prevent fraud, i like it.

For those who dont, they can simply opt out.. Good call ePass!

fuzebox 04-09-2009 03:12 PM

My withdraw limit has been $520 for the last 4 years... Now after opting out of the protection program it is still at $300 :disgust

Michael O 04-09-2009 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 15727475)
My withdraw limit has been $520 for the last 4 years... Now after opting out of the protection program it is still at $300 :disgust

Please email me your UserID to [email protected] then I will look into it.


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