Webcams.com is stealing your PageRank and traffic - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

DarkJedi · 03-01-2009, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by pr0

I've already posted my results several dozen times.

Davey Jones is a fake nick......with no $, no traffic, & no friends.

You got no one to vouch for you..........& you hide behind a name.

I'm done with this.....just so everyone knows.

Webcams did not take anyones pagerank....this guy is a Con-Man & he will soon be banned.

That's what I though, idiot.

You've backpedaled out of both bets.

Tuck your tail and run away, dipshit.

brassmonkey · 03-01-2009, 09:33 AM

uh oh banned maybe not

Oracle Porn · 03-01-2009, 09:35 AM

all im gonna say is that someone been working really hard to hide his sites and someone posted one or two of his sites on gfy in the past....

lets play the guess game?

fris · 03-01-2009, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0

I've already posted my results several dozen times.

Davey Jones is a fake nick......with no $, no traffic, & no friends.

You got no one to vouch for you..........& you hide behind a name.

I'm done with this.....just so everyone knows.

Webcams did not take anyones pagerank....this guy is a Con-Man & he will soon be banned.

Actually he does have pretty amazing SE traffic, ive done work over the past months for him, and its not a fake nick, and his sales numbers are pretty impressive.

pr0 · 03-01-2009, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by fris

Actually he does have pretty amazing SE traffic, ive done work over the past months for him, and its not a fake nick, and his sales numbers are pretty impressive.

Really what was his nickname b4 it was changed then?

I'm getting sick of all the people changing their nicks....I have no fucking clue who "Davey Jones" is.

bloggerz · 03-01-2009, 09:55 AM

can vouch that Davey Jones has REAL SITES that makes REAL MONEY.

fusionx · 03-01-2009, 09:57 AM

Outgoing links do not reduce the pagerank of the page that is linked from. The number of links on a page have nothing to do with the pagerank of that page.

The number of links do affect how much "link juice" is passed to the linked sites. If you have 10 quality outbound links, each site will get a percentage of the weight from your page's page rank. If you have 50 links, obviously there is less weight to spread out, so the destination sites get less weight, or less influence, from your links.

Outbound links do not affect PageRank in any way.

They can affect your SERPs, however, depending on who you link to, how you link, and how many outbound links you have. Quality outbound links can improve SERPs. Shitty, unrelated outbound links can hurt the SERPs.

Reak AGV · 03-01-2009, 09:58 AM

They didn't even close the <h2> tag

DarkJedi · 03-01-2009, 10:00 AM

Don't really matter if I run any sites or not.

What matters is that pr0 is wrong about there being no PR leakage.

That iframe makes you link to 2 pages: first link is model page that tracks your sales and second link is webcams.com index page that doesn't track your sales. Google counts the outgoing links to these pages as separate links, thus PR leak.

Also, webcams.com know what they are doing, because they even set up a title tag for that link, to maximize SEO effect.

03-01-2009, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Davey Jones

Wrong.

http://www.pagerank.dk/Pagerank-leak...nk-leakage.htm

Heh, while you guys wave your e-penis' around attempting to knock each other out...

PageRank works like this...

PR1 page links to you, gives you PR, you link to another PR1, it gives it PR, DOES NOT take away from your PR.

The only thing that link in the iframe does, is send PR that you didn't want to send, to them.

DarkJedi · 03-01-2009, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by fusionx

Outgoing links do not reduce the pagerank of the page that is linked from.

False.

If you have a PR5 page, and then put 100 outgoing links on that page the next update you're going down to PR4/PR3.

DarkJedi · 03-01-2009, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Killswitch

Heh, while you guys wave your e-penis' around attempting to knock each other out...

PageRank works like this...

PR1 page links to you, gives you PR, you link to another PR1, it gives it PR, DOES NOT take away from your PR.

The only thing that link in the iframe does, is send PR that you didn't want to send, to them.

If this was the case we would be seeing thousands of PR5 linkfarm domains.

Go check the Sell&Buy forum. All the people who sell links have pr1-pr2 sites at best.

pr0 · 03-01-2009, 10:14 AM

LoL....so i just found out you're the old DarkJedi.....oh man thats classic

have a good one bitch

03-01-2009, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Davey Jones

If this was the case we would be seeing thousands of PR5 linkfarm domains.

Go check the Sell&Buy forum. All the people who sell links have pr1-pr2 sites at best.

That's because they are new sites, I have a few sites I'm still working on that have age, that all of the sudden went to pr1-pr2. It's not hard to achieve that.

http://www.web-developers.net/tools/...index.php?do=1

Robocrop · 03-01-2009, 10:34 AM

Make love! not war!

DarkJedi · 03-01-2009, 10:40 AM

i wonder why webcams.com reps won't comment on it.

they've been posting in other threads all day. they;ve even been asked directly about the issue - and still ignore it.

WarChild · 03-01-2009, 10:42 AM

Does PR really mean much at all? I have first page serp listings for _fairly_ competitive keywords and PR0 on some of my celebrity pages.

count of monte cristo · 03-01-2009, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by pr0

ok.....i forgot, you're the resident seo expert

you're totally right man......god i wish i had your skillz

pr0, hes right

MetaMan · 03-01-2009, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0

I've already posted my results several dozen times.

Davey Jones is a fake nick......with no $, no traffic, & no friends.

You got no one to vouch for you..........& you hide behind a name.

I'm done with this.....just so everyone knows.

Webcams did not take anyones pagerank....this guy is a Con-Man & he will soon be banned.

not to do with this thread because i didnt read the entire thing, but DJ does massive sales pr0 i know you do also.

DarkJedi · 03-01-2009, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

Does PR really mean much at all? I have first page serp listings for _fairly_ competitive keywords and PR0 on some of my celebrity pages.

good ranking PR0 pages just means that visible pagerank (green bar) hasn't been updated for them yet.

MetaMan · 03-01-2009, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Davey Jones

yeah, like you're one

ROFL

pr0 does got his seo stuff on lock, you both should

IllTestYourGirls · 03-01-2009, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

Does PR really mean much at all? I have first page serp listings for _fairly_ competitive keywords and PR0 on some of my celebrity pages.

Last update some of my pr4s dropped to pr1 and 2 but now are on the front page in the top 5 of the keywords I am was aiming for.

count of monte cristo · 03-01-2009, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by pr0

I've posted my stats.....& they are verified. 2 diff programs now....

got a link to this? from what you posted, im beginning to wonder your ceo of seo status. post a pic of a nice car or house of yours to put us at ease to your elite seo skills please

notime · 03-01-2009, 10:52 AM

count of monte cristo · 03-01-2009, 10:52 AM

it makes no sense that when links are selling for 200-300 dollars on solid pr6-7 domains, there is no pr loss, why would the site limit the # of links they display?

AtlantisCash · 03-01-2009, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Davey Jones

Yeah it does harm your PR. Every outgoing hardlink leaks pagerank.

Looks like it's a standard practice with cam programs. People are reporting PussyCash doing the same.

Edit: Repeating my answer, it won't affect Your pr as said before.

Tulku · 03-01-2009, 10:53 AM

why so much drama here on GFY .. giving or not giving PR they get good links for SEO for free and these links are up not for this .. they are up for money and not to help them get good inbound links just like that .. on my side this is wrong .. I don't have their links up .. but IF I had I'll remove them ..
just my opinion

Have A Nice And Productive Day!

Nicky · 03-01-2009, 11:00 AM

Just remove the extra code at will.

fusionx · 03-01-2009, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Davey Jones

False.

If you have a PR5 page, and then put 100 outgoing links on that page the next update you're going down to PR4/PR3.

Absolute Bullshit. Show me anything that supports your theory.

Outbound links only dilute the value of each link. They have nothing to do with the PageRank assigned to the page itself.

DarkJedi · 03-01-2009, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by fusionx

Absolute Bullshit. Show me anything that supports your theory.

Outbound links only dilute the value of each link. They have nothing to do with the PageRank assigned to the page itself.

Google "pagerank leak" or "pagerank leakage"

Juicy D. Links · 03-01-2009, 11:17 AM

thats sneaky..................

SarahLLO · 03-01-2009, 11:18 AM

I bet that Webcams.com and PussyCash are happy that this thread degenerated into a PR slapfight instead of the original point ;) Takes the spotlight off their fuckups...

roly · 03-01-2009, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by SarahLLO

I bet that Webcams.com and PussyCash are happy that this thread degenerated into a PR slapfight instead of the original point ;) Takes the spotlight off their fuckups...

it's clear it's not a fuck up on their part

03-01-2009, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Davey Jones

Google "pagerank leak" or "pagerank leakage"

I think you might want to recheck where you read about this..

PageRank Leak or PageRank Leakage, is sending PR to sites you don't intend to send to, not linking to another site causing a chunk of your PR to be taken away and given to them.

If your theory was true, than that means nobody would be linking in fear of losing their PR.

MoreMagic · 03-01-2009, 11:40 AM

Links in a Iframe, where is the PR problem at all?

bbobby86 · 03-01-2009, 11:47 AM

They didn't close the <h2> tag... yea...

GAMEFINEST · 03-01-2009, 11:49 AM

seo vs seo!

Nicky · 03-01-2009, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoreMagic

Links in a Iframe, where is the PR problem at all?

AtlantisCash · 03-01-2009, 12:11 PM

Finally Gfy Rocket science Team solved Google's algoritm also, Congrats for the winners

Tjeezers · 03-01-2009, 12:22 PM

you place a code, you see what they place in it, and you replace it. Why make a fuzz about it. The code is editable in your editor.

fris · 03-01-2009, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fusionx

Absolute Bullshit. Show me anything that supports your theory.

Outbound links only dilute the value of each link. They have nothing to do with the PageRank assigned to the page itself.

If you think having 100+ outgoing links on a site isnt going to decrease your Page Rank, you should quit now.

roly · 03-01-2009, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Sex2Have

you place a code, you see what they place in it, and you replace it. Why make a fuzz about it. The code is editable in your editor.

it's a traffic leak and is shady, many people will have missed it. why would you give a link to webcams.com if you weren't gtetting paid for it?

nico-t · 03-01-2009, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killswitch

Heh, while you guys wave your e-penis' around attempting to knock each other out...

PageRank works like this...

PR1 page links to you, gives you PR, you link to another PR1, it gives it PR, DOES NOT take away from your PR.

The only thing that link in the iframe does, is send PR that you didn't want to send, to them.

aside from the fact that its rediculous a sponsor puts a hard link in their iframe code - its blatant stealing - your pr does depend on the number of outgoing links also. If you got a page with 1000 incoming links and 5000 outgoing links your pr is way worse than if you got only 10 outgoing links on a page with 1000 icoming links. Its pretty damn logical....

dig420 · 03-01-2009, 12:51 PM

ok.... so which one of your SEO gods wants to do some seo consulting work?

crockett · 03-01-2009, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by wizzart

PussyCash have same thing in their iframe code, only don't have h2 tag

see the competition made them do it..

Si · 03-01-2009, 01:11 PM

Google will punish any website which is sending too many outbound links and that is a fact.

on the other hand if you have 10-20 links outbound, and, 20,000 incoming links you will not see any affect and will not be punished.

But that being said they are still sneaky for hiding a backlink in the iframe (if that is the case)

MoreMagic · 03-01-2009, 01:38 PM

OMG it's a iframe people

grumpy · 03-01-2009, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davey Jones

Don't really matter if I run any sites or not.

What matters is that pr0 is wrong about there being no PR leakage.

That iframe makes you link to 2 pages: first link is model page that tracks your sales and second link is webcams.com index page that doesn't track your sales. Google counts the outgoing links to these pages as separate links, thus PR leak.

Also, webcams.com know what they are doing, because they even set up a title tag for that link, to maximize SEO effect.

google hates iframes, so the links in there have little to no value

KillerK · 03-01-2009, 01:47 PM

I am more mad it's a way to not pay you for sales then a PR leak.

Sands · 03-01-2009, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by KillerK

I am more mad it's a way to not pay you for sales then a PR leak.

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03-01-2009, 09:57 AM	#57
fusionx Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Olongapo City, Philippines Posts: 4,618	Outgoing links do not reduce the pagerank of the page that is linked from. The number of links on a page have nothing to do with the pagerank of that page. The number of links do affect how much "link juice" is passed to the linked sites. If you have 10 quality outbound links, each site will get a percentage of the weight from your page's page rank. If you have 50 links, obviously there is less weight to spread out, so the destination sites get less weight, or less influence, from your links. Outbound links do not affect PageRank in any way. They can affect your SERPs, however, depending on who you link to, how you link, and how many outbound links you have. Quality outbound links can improve SERPs. Shitty, unrelated outbound links can hurt the SERPs.

03-01-2009, 10:00 AM	#59
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	Don't really matter if I run any sites or not. What matters is that pr0 is wrong about there being no PR leakage. That iframe makes you link to 2 pages: first link is model page that tracks your sales and second link is webcams.com index page that doesn't track your sales. Google counts the outgoing links to these pages as separate links, thus PR leak. Also, webcams.com know what they are doing, because they even set up a title tag for that link, to maximize SEO effect.

03-01-2009, 10:14 AM	#63
pr0 rockin tha trailerpark Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: ~Coastal~ Posts: 23,088	LoL....so i just found out you're the old DarkJedi.....oh man thats classic have a good one bitch

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DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	i wonder why webcams.com reps won't comment on it. they've been posting in other threads all day. they;ve even been asked directly about the issue - and still ignore it.

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count of monte cristo Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: monte cristo Posts: 473	it makes no sense that when links are selling for 200-300 dollars on solid pr6-7 domains, there is no pr loss, why would the site limit the # of links they display? __________________ premier payment sending company

03-01-2009, 10:53 AM	#77
Tulku Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Porn Town Posts: 670	why so much drama here on GFY .. giving or not giving PR they get good links for SEO for free and these links are up not for this .. they are up for money and not to help them get good inbound links just like that .. on my side this is wrong .. I don't have their links up .. but IF I had I'll remove them .. just my opinion Have A Nice And Productive Day!

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SarahLLO Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: OH Posts: 1,168	I bet that Webcams.com and PussyCash are happy that this thread degenerated into a PR slapfight instead of the original point ;) Takes the spotlight off their fuckups...

03-01-2009, 11:40 AM	#85
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03-01-2009, 01:11 PM	#96
Si Such Fun! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 13,900	Google will punish any website which is sending too many outbound links and that is a fact. on the other hand if you have 10-20 links outbound, and, 20,000 incoming links you will not see any affect and will not be punished. But that being said they are still sneaky for hiding a backlink in the iframe (if that is the case)

03-01-2009, 01:38 PM	#97
MoreMagic Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,848	OMG it's a iframe people

03-01-2009, 01:47 PM	#99
KillerK Confirmed User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3,406	I am more mad it's a way to not pay you for sales then a PR leak.