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Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 03-01-2009, 02:37 PM

heaven forbid you use your fucking head and modify the html.
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Klen · 03-01-2009, 02:37 PM

Read this site ; http://seochat.com to learn more about pr and outgoing link influence.

cykoe6 · 03-01-2009, 02:45 PM

I saw this a long time ago and just removed the <h2> and its contents. Seems like a pretty easy problem to solve.

fusionx · 03-01-2009, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mobilefun1987

Google will punish any website which is sending too many outbound links and that is a fact.

on the other hand if you have 10-20 links outbound, and, 20,000 incoming links you will not see any affect and will not be punished.

This is basically true. But it has nothing to do with PageRank.

HandballJim · 03-01-2009, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by cykoe6

I saw this a long time ago and just removed the <h2> and its contents. Seems like a pretty easy problem to solve.

Sometimes you edit some of these affiliate codes...and you get no credit at all. They should just fix this going forward...makes no sense to start fucking with them. Someone should just foward this thread to these companies.

03-01-2009, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by nico-t

aside from the fact that its rediculous a sponsor puts a hard link in their iframe code - its blatant stealing - your pr does depend on the number of outgoing links also. If you got a page with 1000 incoming links and 5000 outgoing links your pr is way worse than if you got only 10 outgoing links on a page with 1000 icoming links. Its pretty damn logical....

That has nothing to do with the pages PR, just the fact that google sees the page as a linkfarm and shit cans it anyway...

Badmaash · 03-01-2009, 03:16 PM

I was just about to prmote webcams.com today since I joined a long time ago but never had the time.

So what have they said about the issue?

Any way I put up a text link on my site for the following cams program and have already made $300 in one day!!!

Badmaash · 03-01-2009, 03:19 PM

BTW - this cam company is going to have the top pornstars lining up to do live sex shows.... thought id tell you.

NicelyWritten · 03-01-2009, 03:48 PM

I made the post on here https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/890345-webcams-com-extra-html.html to find out what's going on.

I myself did edit the code and it's gone but some of the issues some of the members are having is the fact that it's there in the first place, regardless of overall effect. The theory behind it is pretty sneaky. It was just something I wanted to point out without drama.

I don't care who makes more money but I care that we all make money. So let's get this sorted out and start making money again.

xsabn · 03-01-2009, 03:50 PM

webcams is not the only sponsor doing this. anyway , they do it wrong

. i create my own iframes using XML or RSS feeds. Nobody forces you to have the link on these iframes, you can just delete it.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 03-01-2009, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Badmaash

BTW - this cam company is going to have the top pornstars lining up to do live sex shows.... thought id tell you.

are they still packing that ridiculous short revshare period?

Badmaash · 03-01-2009, 03:54 PM

Yah they still got a 14 day cookie which is great so that the pool of customers never dries up.

Nicky · 03-01-2009, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Badmaash

Yah they still got a 14 day cookie which is great so that the pool of customers never dries up.

Now that's a very over optimistic way to look at it IMO.

polish_aristocrat · 03-01-2009, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky

Now that's a very over optimistic way to look at it IMO.

I don't think anyone reall knows how AWE's system work.. even though it's been explained to death

Phoenix · 03-01-2009, 04:14 PM

so are you guys going to send me some traffic or what ;)

d-null · 03-01-2009, 04:14 PM

some sponsors see sites like pornhub sitting at number one for huge terms on google, and their thinking is that they can use affiliates for relevancy and authority to their own sites and make more money off of se traffic than 98% of the affiliates putting up their links in the first place... they know that 98% of their affiliates will make very little or nothing but they help the sponsor's greater cause in the long run

when a company does a few things that raise your eyebrows you have to wonder, and sometimes it looks like the priority is shifting away from a main goal of a profitable partnership between sponsor and affiliates to where they are working toward a situation where the affiliates are becoming expendable

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 03-01-2009, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by d-null

some sponsors see sites like pornhub sitting at number one for huge terms on google, and their thinking is that they can use affiliates for relevancy and authority to their own sites and make more money off of se traffic than 98% of the affiliates putting up their links in the first place... they know that 98% of their affiliates will make very little or nothing but they help the sponsor's greater cause in the long run

when a company does a few things that raise your eyebrows you have to wonder, and sometimes it looks like the priority is shifting away from a main goal of a profitable partnership between sponsor and affiliates to where they are working toward a situation where the affiliates are becoming expendable

with the direction the adult sector of im is moving, you can damn well bet there's a lot of bigname networks looking at working the affiliate out of the equation in any way they can...

PrivateEye · 03-01-2009, 06:12 PM

I think there has been a extra link in ever iframe I ever used...

If you dont like the link.....remove it ;-)

Kard63 · 03-02-2009, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by notime

If you know that DaveyJones is Dark Jedi then this pic was great. Otherwise... you blow

BTW- DJ is right.

wizzart · 03-02-2009, 01:58 AM

PussyCash have rule that you can't change code or they can terminate your account.
And on this way they getting lot of free PR links and good positions on SERP

DarkJedi · 03-02-2009, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by wizzart

PussyCash have rule that you can't change code or they can terminate your account.
And on this way they getting lot of free PR links and good positions on SERP

That's fucked.

ExLust · 03-02-2009, 03:42 AM

Thanks for the heads up.

Blazed · 03-02-2009, 03:53 AM

This really is not a big deal, i noticed it ages ago and just removed the link and have done so from plenty of sponsors. If this was some sort of injection or something that is completely hidden to you sure but it is not hidden in anyway whatsoever (only from the SE's), its your job as a webmaster to look at what code you are pasting into your site.

nico-t · 03-02-2009, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Killswitch

That has nothing to do with the pages PR, just the fact that google sees the page as a linkfarm and shit cans it anyway...

obviously i exaggerated the numbers for example sake, think smaller numbers

Quagmire · 03-02-2009, 06:30 AM

I'd still promote Webcams.com with the 'PR theft' over them cocksmokers over at Video Secrets any day.

rowan · 03-02-2009, 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blazed

This really is not a big deal, i noticed it ages ago and just removed the link and have done so from plenty of sponsors. If this was some sort of injection or something that is completely hidden to you sure but it is not hidden in anyway whatsoever (only from the SE's), its your job as a webmaster to look at what code you are pasting into your site.

How long before an uncredited backlink/leak quietly slips into the RSS feed?

TeenCat · 03-02-2009, 07:04 AM

oh guys i am seo lame but i know that 1+1=2, and if you put 1000 outgoing pr0 links at pr5 site, it must do something with your pr5 site! and if you dont think so, go and wash your head in cold water ...

JamesK · 03-02-2009, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by wizzart

PussyCash have rule that you can't change code or they can terminate your account.

Blazed · 03-02-2009, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by rowan

How long before an uncredited backlink/leak quietly slips into the RSS feed?

Its totally different they are giving you the option to use the link or remove the link, its in the code and clearly visible. That doesnt mean they are going to start forcing shit on you now. Wordpress done the same thing ages ago they put hidden links in the footer of every wordpress install.

wizzart · 03-02-2009, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Quagmire

I'd still promote Webcams.com with the 'PR theft' over them cocksmokers over at Video Secrets any day.

why you don't love them?

Walrus · 03-15-2009, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Quagmire

I'd still promote Webcams.com with the 'PR theft' over them cocksmokers over at Video Secrets any day.

Ya, what is wrong with Video Secrets? Thought they were supposed to be good? A little birdy did tell me that their models are treated poorly, though. Don't know if anyone knows anything about that or not.

xentech · 03-15-2009, 08:00 AM

Anyone who cares about this is just bitchin', they are doing good business - if you understand what they are doing with that iframe trick just remove the code and stop whining.

sortie · 03-15-2009, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Davey Jones

It's pretty easy.

All incoming links raise your page's Pagerank.

All outgoing links decrease your page's Pagerank.

So a link list with a link back from every site will always have
page rank zero then....right???

I mean, same number of links going in and out, right.

I've never heard this before.

I don't see how this would benefit google.
Jos sites linking to resumes and companies would rank last.
Doesn't make sense.

Quagmire · 03-15-2009, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Walrus

Ya, what is wrong with Video Secrets? Thought they were supposed to be good? A little birdy did tell me that their models are treated poorly, though. Don't know if anyone knows anything about that or not.

Your little birdy has good ears. Of course their excuse is that the models are through studios which are 'third party' and has nothing to do with them.

Bottom line is they are a bunch of arrogant douchebags.

Iron Fist · 03-15-2009, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Walrus

Ya, what is wrong with Video Secrets? Thought they were supposed to be good? A little birdy did tell me that their models are treated poorly, though. Don't know if anyone knows anything about that or not.

No you missed the drama where someone had "lifetime" revshare, and then VS stopped paying them because they didn't send them any traffic for years, but still getting rebills from their "lifetime" revshare joins. Last I saw, had nothing to do with models, more about getting paid if you don't send traffic.

Iron Fist · 03-15-2009, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sortie

So a link list with a link back from every site will always have
page rank zero then....right???

No, because if a site becomes popular then there is more people linking to it (or bookmarking it) and there's more PR juice assigned to it. It's not entirely based on links either especially if they have analytics enabled on the page as well.

SmokeyTheBear · 03-15-2009, 10:01 AM

Hate to agree with dj but yes this hurts pr, both of your sites and every link on your page that is devalued because of it.

SmokeyTheBear · 03-15-2009, 10:05 AM

wish people would use common sense sometimes.. this can kill your serp.

example. I have a page about buttons , my competitor also has a page about buttons, we each have 5 links pointing to us from other "button" sites we each have 1 link pointing out to a "button" site, now i add a text link to webcams that has nothing to do with buttons.

hmm how do you think google will treat our sites if half my outbound links are to irrelevant pages and my competitions page has 100% of their outbound links pointing to relevant sites

Niktamer · 03-15-2009, 10:24 AM

Good point on that

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

wish people would use common sense sometimes.. this can kill your serp.

example. I have a page about buttons , my competitor also has a page about buttons, we each have 5 links pointing to us from other "button" sites we each have 1 link pointing out to a "button" site, now i add a text link to webcams that has nothing to do with buttons.

hmm how do you think google will treat our sites if half my outbound links are to irrelevant pages and my competitions page has 100% of their outbound links pointing to relevant sites

sortie · 03-15-2009, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

example. I have a page about buttons , my competitor also has a page about buttons, we each have 5 links pointing to us from other "button" sites we each have 1 link pointing out to a "button" site, now i add a text link to webcams that has nothing to do with buttons.

But what if the webcams show belly buttons?

AaliyahLove · 03-15-2009, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quagmire

Your little birdy has good ears. Of course their excuse is that the models are through studios which are 'third party' and has nothing to do with them.

Bottom line is they are a bunch of arrogant douchebags.

The model in this situation said more than once how VS stepped up and helped her with that situation and she is happy how it turned out, so why are you still so upset about it?

I worked for a studio for VS for my 1st 3 years in this business, and I am still grateful to everything VS did for me, I got to know plenty of girls that worked for VS, independent and through studios, USA and international, and they were all happy and treated fairly and always paid on time (which is more than I can say for some other webcam sites!)

I only see it from the model perspective, so I can't talk about affiliate programs or stuff like that, but your beef is with the studio owners and model treatment, and you seem to be the ONLY ONE, so whats your real agenda here I wonder?

Quagmire · 03-15-2009, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by AaliyahLove

The model in this situation said more than once how VS stepped up and helped her with that situation and she is happy how it turned out, so why are you still so upset about it?

I worked for a studio for VS for my 1st 3 years in this business, and I am still grateful to everything VS did for me, I got to know plenty of girls that worked for VS, independent and through studios, USA and international, and they were all happy and treated fairly and always paid on time (which is more than I can say for some other webcam sites!)

I only see it from the model perspective, so I can't talk about affiliate programs or stuff like that, but your beef is with the studio owners and model treatment, and you seem to be the ONLY ONE, so whats your real agenda here I wonder?

The issue is that they have a douchebag representing them in the Toronto/GTA territory who has posted a model's personal information in a public forum multiple times (Craigslist) while representing them. The links (on separate occasions) were sent to staff members at VS and they did absolutely nothing about it.

Their answers after the fact:
1> They didn't get the complaints from me. Bullshit, it was on ICQ and they responded to me. But no, they did not respond to the emails.
2> The studio is a 3rd party and they can't control what the studio does.

My agenda? Its to make people aware that they are lazy cocksuckers there at VS who did nothing about the problem. Their solution was to let that one specific model switch to another studio out of area.

As a model I would think you might appeciate the severity of a studio handing out a model's personal information in a public forum. Ask Illeana how much fun it is to have a stalker.

DarkJedi · 03-15-2009, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sortie

So a link list with a link back from every site will always have
page rank zero then....right???

I mean, same number of links going in and out, right.

I've never heard this before.

Linklist sites always get a link back from free sites the link to. So the PR leak kind of cancels out.

AaliyahLove · 03-15-2009, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quagmire

The issue is that they have a douchebag representing them in the Toronto/GTA territory who has posted a model's personal information in a public forum multiple times (Craigslist) while representing them. The links (on separate occasions) were sent to staff members at VS and they did absolutely nothing about it.

Their answers after the fact:
1> They didn't get the complaints from me. Bullshit, it was on ICQ and they responded to me. But no, they did not respond to the emails.
2> The studio is a 3rd party and they can't control what the studio does.

My agenda? Its to make people aware that they are lazy cocksuckers there at VS who did nothing about the problem. Their solution was to let that one specific model switch to another studio out of area.

As a model I would think you might appeciate the severity of a studio handing out a model's personal information in a public forum. Ask Illeana how much fun it is to have a stalker.

Is the model you are talking about Bella Bellini? Because VS actually DID step up and do something according to her, and she said she was happy the way it turned out. I did in fact have a couple problems with the studio owners I worked for, and when I went straight to VS they took care of it also. One of the reasons I stuck with them for almost 5 years.. GREAT customer support, great model support, I was always treated very well by them.
So if think VS treats their models so poorly, which webcam site in your opinion treats their models better? I've worked for plenty of the "top webcam sites" and I still say VS was one of the top.. 2

miss_bellabellini · 03-15-2009, 04:12 PM

That's right Aaliyah, I've mentioned this a few times already but since it is being brought up again I have to say that it was resolved 100% to my satisfaction.

VS responded to me immediately when I spoke with them directly and sorted out the situation much faster than I anticipated. There will be problems in ANY company, what matters is how the company responds and solves the problems.

Quagmire · 03-15-2009, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaliyahLove

Is the model you are talking about Bella Bellini? Because VS actually DID step up and do something according to her, and she said she was happy the way it turned out. I did in fact have a couple problems with the studio owners I worked for, and when I went straight to VS they took care of it also. One of the reasons I stuck with them for almost 5 years.. GREAT customer support, great model support, I was always treated very well by them.
So if think VS treats their models so poorly, which webcam site in your opinion treats their models better? I've worked for plenty of the "top webcam sites" and I still say VS was one of the top.. 2

If you re-read my post it covers your first question.

If VS had any business ethics they would have kicked the 'studio' in Toronto to the curb. There is absolutely no possible way to excuse the actions of that 'studio' from a professional standpoint. He took advantage of a situation that he had purely because of representing them. Had he not been representing them he would never have had her personal information.

Of course the clueless jerkoffs at VS don't seem to be able to grasp this concept.

Doctor Feelgood · 03-15-2009, 04:14 PM

google cant follow links that are in iframes stupid

Jdoughs · 03-15-2009, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Feelgood

google cant follow links that are in iframes stupid

Can't or doesn't? May want to be more specific and factual if you are going to call someone stupid.

SmokeyTheBear · 03-15-2009, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Feelgood

google cant follow links that are in iframes stupid

lol best "i didnt read the thread at all " response

p.s. the link isn't in the iframe

SmokeyTheBear · 03-15-2009, 04:37 PM

the html after the <iframe> and before the </iframe> is read as html for browsers that have iframes turned off, so anyone with frames turned off sees a no ref link to webcams and your ad doesnt even showup. so quite possibly cell phones and mini aps would how this as well as anyone in a secure browser.

at best its a very poor mistake.

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03-01-2009, 02:37 PM	#102
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03-01-2009, 03:50 PM	#110
xsabn Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: 203-069-778 Posts: 2,815	webcams is not the only sponsor doing this. anyway , they do it wrong . i create my own iframes using XML or RSS feeds. Nobody forces you to have the link on these iframes, you can just delete it.

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d-null . . . Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY Posts: 13,724	some sponsors see sites like pornhub sitting at number one for huge terms on google, and their thinking is that they can use affiliates for relevancy and authority to their own sites and make more money off of se traffic than 98% of the affiliates putting up their links in the first place... they know that 98% of their affiliates will make very little or nothing but they help the sponsor's greater cause in the long run when a company does a few things that raise your eyebrows you have to wonder, and sometimes it looks like the priority is shifting away from a main goal of a profitable partnership between sponsor and affiliates to where they are working toward a situation where the affiliates are becoming expendable __________________ __________________ Looking for a custom TUBE SCRIPT that supports massive traffic, load balancing, billing support, and h264 encoding? Hit up Konrad! Looking for designs for your websites or custom tubesite design? Hit up Zuzana Designs Check out the #1 WordPress SEO Plugin: CyberSEO Suite

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03-02-2009, 01:58 AM	#120
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03-02-2009, 03:53 AM	#123
Blazed Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: London Posts: 1,701	This really is not a big deal, i noticed it ages ago and just removed the link and have done so from plenty of sponsors. If this was some sort of injection or something that is completely hidden to you sure but it is not hidden in anyway whatsoever (only from the SE's), its your job as a webmaster to look at what code you are pasting into your site. __________________ ☻

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03-02-2009, 07:04 AM	#127
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03-15-2009, 10:01 AM	#137
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	Hate to agree with dj but yes this hurts pr, both of your sites and every link on your page that is devalued because of it. __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

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SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	wish people would use common sense sometimes.. this can kill your serp. example. I have a page about buttons , my competitor also has a page about buttons, we each have 5 links pointing to us from other "button" sites we each have 1 link pointing out to a "button" site, now i add a text link to webcams that has nothing to do with buttons. hmm how do you think google will treat our sites if half my outbound links are to irrelevant pages and my competitions page has 100% of their outbound links pointing to relevant sites __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

03-15-2009, 04:12 PM	#145
miss_bellabellini Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 533	That's right Aaliyah, I've mentioned this a few times already but since it is being brought up again I have to say that it was resolved 100% to my satisfaction. VS responded to me immediately when I spoke with them directly and sorted out the situation much faster than I anticipated. There will be problems in ANY company, what matters is how the company responds and solves the problems. __________________ bella.bellini at gmail.com Check out my official site!

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