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Old 03-01-2009, 06:13 AM   #1
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Webcams.com is stealing your PageRank and traffic

Big props to the person who pointed this out. I'm taking all the links down.

Check the iframe code that they offer to webmasters:

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<!-- BEGIN WEBCAMS.COM IFRAME CODE -->
<iframe width="570" height="215" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" allowtransparency="true" src="http://banners.webcams.com/misc/iframes/iframe16.php?perpage=3&bg=01&bgcolor=000000&modelnamecolor=000000&columns=3&rows=1&type=1&rev=0&reseller=gfy&mcat_id=&landing_type=livechat&misc1=&misc2=">
<h2><a href="http://www.webcams.com" title="live webcam sex">Webcams.com</a>
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Notice the direct link hardlink back to their site:

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<a href="http://www.webcams.com" title="live webcam sex">Webcams.com</a>
What is the point of it? You don't get any credit for sent traffic and it steals your PageRank back to webcams.com.

Bad, bad, bad
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Old 03-01-2009, 06:24 AM   #2
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Plus they didn't close the <h2> tag.
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Old 03-01-2009, 06:25 AM   #3
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Plus they didn't close the <h2> tag.
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They are removed from my site until a rep gets back to this and post a really GOOD excuse.
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They are removed from my site until a rep gets back to this and post a really GOOD excuse.
What is that link doing there in the first place?

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Oh, this is too bad. Luckily I just place their banners on my sites, not iframe! Waiting for their response too ;)
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PussyCash have same thing in their iframe code, only don't have h2 tag
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PussyCash have same thing in their iframe code, only don't have h2 tag
Why are they doing this? It's blatant stealing.

Can you post their code?
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Old 03-01-2009, 06:37 AM   #9
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PussyCash have same thing in their iframe code, only don't have h2 tag
Exactly!!! Just checked my sites and noticed it too ;) I wonder why they do this while we, affiliates, are trying to promote their sites.
It seems that we caught some whales today )
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it doesn't harm Your pr, they're just free hardlinking, even though it's also might be counted not good, how ever, they might be doing this for an old habit regarding to Browsers that don't support frames even though i doubt if any of them are still left.
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it doesn't harm Your pr, they're just free hardlinking, even though it's also might be counted not good, how ever, they might be doing this for an old habit regarding to Browsers that don't support frames even though i doubt if any of them are still left.
Yeah it does harm your PR. Every outgoing hardlink leaks pagerank.

Looks like it's a standard practice with cam programs. People are reporting PussyCash doing the same.
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Just checked the iframe codes in my account, the hardlink isn't there. Already fixed or depends on the account maybe?
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Just checked the iframe codes in my account, the hardlink isn't there. Already fixed or depends on the account maybe?
It's there.

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It's there.

Not for me it isn't

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Starts with <iframe ends with </iframe>

I mean thanks for the heads up but in my account really I can't see it.
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I mean thanks for the heads up but in my account really I can't see it.
It's in the models iframes (the most popular tool)
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You can't just remove it?
I mean, copy and paste is a pretty advanced skill but can't you selectively take out the h2 tag when you put it on your site?
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You can't just remove it?
I mean, copy and paste is a pretty advanced skill but can't you selectively take out the h2 tag when you put it on your site?
Most webmasters don't look at the code, esp iframes. They just copy whatever they are given into their pages.

What's the point of having that extra html code in there? Taking advantage of people like this is fucked.

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companies can't even be assed enough to give the rogue coder excuse anymore.
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I noticed it a year or so ago and just took that part of the link out. I also nofollow all sponsor links anyway.
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I always edit them codes.. obsiously they are trying to steal from the dumb
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Those have been there for a long time. If you haven't noticed and deleted that, it's your fault really.
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Not for me it isn't

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Starts with <iframe ends with </iframe>

I mean thanks for the heads up but in my account really I can't see it.
Yea, you're looking in the wrong sponsor.
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It's there.

Yep you are right it is there.

Would have helped if I had been looking at the webcams.com code instead of the cams.com first time around
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Just noticed that
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Yeah it does harm your PR. Every outgoing hardlink leaks pagerank.

Looks like it's a standard practice with cam programs. People are reporting PussyCash doing the same.
Can you please post a reference of how it harms PR?

I have a lot of links with that iframes code and want to determine if I need to change it. I don't really want to waste my time, if this doesn't effect my PR.
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Yeah it does harm your PR. Every outgoing hardlink leaks pagerank.
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I think you got the wrong impression.

This in no way affected anyone's pagerank btw
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Can you please post a reference of how it harms PR?

I have a lot of links with that iframes code and want to determine if I need to change it. I don't really want to waste my time, if this doesn't effect my PR.
It's pretty easy.

All incoming links raise your page's Pagerank.

All outgoing links decrease your page's Pagerank.
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not talking about the companys mentioned here...but..why would anyone want an iframe on their site...didnt we go through this like 5 years ago?
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I think you got the wrong impression.

This in no way affected anyone's pagerank btw
Wrong.

http://www.pagerank.dk/Pagerank-leak...nk-leakage.htm

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If i'm linking to a product on amazon.com already.....it doesn't matter if i then put a link straight to amazon as well....right under it

so no.....it didn't hurt ANYONE'S pagerank
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If i'm linking to a product on amazon.com already.....it doesn't matter if i then put a link straight to amazon as well....right under it

so no.....it didn't hurt ANYONE'S pagerank
You're linking to different pages.

Both outgoing links count.
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You're linking to different pages.

Both outgoing links count.


ok.....i forgot, you're the resident seo expert

you're totally right man......god i wish i had your skillz
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ok.....i forgot, you're the resident seo expert

you're totally right man......god i wish i had your skillz
yeah, like you're one

ROFL
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yeah, like you're one

ROFL
I've posted my stats.....& they are verified. 2 diff programs now....

Lets see one of your sponsor payments.

Something tells me you live off the $1000 a month your sig makes ya

Lets see how much longer that sig $ sticks around

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I've posted my stats.....& they are verified. 2 diff programs now....

Lets see one of your sponsor payments.

Something tells me you live off the $1000 a month your sig makes ya

Lets see how much longer that sig $ sticks around

Peace
Hey big guy, why don't you put your money where your mouth is?

I will bet you $10,000 that I have more SE traffic per day than you do.

What says you?
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Hey big guy, why don't you put your money where your mouth is?

I will bet you $10,000 that I have more SE traffic per day than you do.

What says you?
Google image traffic doesn't count. And theres no way it could ever be verified. You will never let your real name/identity come out. You've got too many enemies.

Plus, you don't have the $10,000.

I'm done with you.....everyone knows you're just a drama-gfy bitch. And everyone knows I'm a businessman. Peace
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Google image traffic doesn't count. And theres no way it could ever be verified. You will never let your real name/identity come out. You've got too many enemies.

Plus, you don't have the $10,000.

I'm done with you.....everyone knows you're just a drama-gfy bitch. And everyone knows I'm a businessman. Peace
Yeah, that's what I thought you backpedaling pussy.

I'm terribly sorry but you've been completely owned. Please report to the nearest suicide booth.
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Google image traffic doesn't count. And theres no way it could ever be verified.
It's not image traffic and it can be verified by keywords and serps.

But of course you're just a loud mouth faggot.

hahaha
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Yeah, that's what I thought you backpedaling pussy.

I'm terribly sorry but you've been completely owned. Please report to the nearest suicide booth.
I tell ya what.....have 2 companies come on gfy & vouch that you send ANYONE....any traffic. And I'll apologize.....

I've got my 2.....wheres yours?

Until you produce some sort of stats, screenshot......you're just a bitch, a con-man, pretending to be something.
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why dont both you big shots send me some joins for one week...ill post stats to see who is best

one week to prepare...one week of sales..and then results posted
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I tell ya what.....have 2 companies come on gfy & vouch that you send ANYONE....any traffic. And I'll apologize.....

I've got my 2.....wheres yours?

Until you produce some sort of stats, screenshot......you're just a bitch, a con-man, pretending to be something.
Let's make a bet, big guy?

I will have 2 companies come forward and say that I send serious sales.

How much $ are you not afraid to lose?
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Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
why dont both you big shots send me some joins for one week...ill post stats to see who is best

one week to prepare...one week of sales..and then results posted
I've already posted my results several dozen times.

Davey Jones is a fake nick......with no $, no traffic, & no friends.

You got no one to vouch for you..........& you hide behind a name.

I'm done with this.....just so everyone knows.


Webcams did not take anyones pagerank....this guy is a Con-Man & he will soon be banned.
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