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Old 01-15-2009, 07:10 AM   #1
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It seems someone is a littled pissed

I recieved two fake cease and desist letters this morning regarding CCBill Sponsor Sites. They have been forwarded to CCBills fraud department, I am sure there attorneys are going to love this one.

A note to people sending fake cease and desists.

1. You probably shouldn't forward an email you recieved.
2. You should probably make sure your name, address and site URL are not in the original cease and desist.
3. You should probably make sure that the date is correct. or at least close, not 6 months old.
4. You should probably make sure that the email does not reveal that you run a phishing scheme.
5. Upon your realizing that you sent them to domainsbyproxy you shouldn't panic and send an explanation asking them to disregard

I was pissed at first, now this is just laughable!

with permission of the admin here I will gladly post the attachment I recieved, but where it contains personal info until I get permission I will hold on to it.
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Old 01-15-2009, 07:12 AM   #2
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there is no rule against posting proof of what you say... only linking another forum will get you banned.
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Old 01-15-2009, 07:17 AM   #4
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there is no rule against posting proof of what you say... only linking another forum will get you banned.
But there is a rule against posting personal info, and this contains a lot of personal info.
Name, address, phone, site url etc
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Old 01-15-2009, 07:20 AM   #6
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OR THE CLASSIC WhitE OUT
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There ya go.... But I really wanted to post it without the name and address blacked out.. or atleast the url.
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urls aint personal info, names and such yes, but sites? nah
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I don't get it. What did someone hope to gain from sending you this letter?
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Old 01-15-2009, 07:45 AM   #10
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urls aint personal info, names and such yes, but sites? nah
But until I can be sure it was sent by the person named in it, even tho they have already been nailed by CCBill, I am refraining from revealing the url as well.

Gotta cover my ass as well!
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I don't get it. What did someone hope to gain from sending you this letter?
I am assuming they were hoping I would shut down ccbillsponsorsites.com, but all they really did as narrow down the possibilities of who sent it to begin with.
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But until I can be sure it was sent by the person named in it, even tho they have already been nailed by CCBill, I am refraining from revealing the url as well.

Gotta cover my ass as well!
ah, possibly smart move on yer part i suppose.
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I am assuming they were hoping I would shut down ccbillsponsorsites.com, but all they really did as narrow down the possibilities of who sent it to begin with.

Still don't get it.

This letter would have had to have been sent by a complete and utter idiot for them to believe a letter like that would cause you to shut down your site without asking questions.

Yet, at the same time, the letter is intelligent sounding and well-written.

I can't wait to hear how this unfolds. I hope it's dramaliscious. :-)

Can't be any worse than that AnnaXbiz thread from a few days ago.
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Old 01-15-2009, 08:03 AM   #16
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Still don't get it.

This letter would have had to have been sent by a complete and utter idiot for them to believe a letter like that would cause you to shut down your site without asking questions.

Yet, at the same time, the letter is intelligent sounding and well-written.

I can't wait to hear how this unfolds. I hope it's dramaliscious. :-)

Can't be any worse than that AnnaXbiz thread from a few days ago.
It's well written because it is real as far as I can tell. real meaning it was originally sent from an attorney from ccbill, just to someone other than me.

And who knows with a name like goldfish maybe they thought I was stupid. But goldfish ain't no fool.
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how do you know its fake? its early maybe I am missing something in here.
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how do you know its fake? its early maybe I am missing something in here.
I understand the early part for sure.

1. it wasnt addressed to me, it was addressed to some guy in another state
2. it wasn't addressed to my host
3. it cites a url that i don't own
4. it cited a a service mark I don't use
5. it cited my website as a phishing scheme, we are not a consumer site, nor do we collect any user info.

I am pretty sure the letter is a real C & D from ccbill to someone else, but I am also pretty sure it was just a scare tactic from a competitor.
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I understand the early part for sure.

1. it wasnt addressed to me, it was addressed to some guy in another state
2. it wasn't addressed to my host
3. it cites a url that i don't own
4. it cited a a service mark I don't use
5. it cited my website as a phishing scheme, we are not a consumer site, nor do we collect any user info.

I am pretty sure the letter is a real C & D from ccbill to someone else, but I am also pretty sure it was just a scare tactic from a competitor.
ah okay.

Sometimes I have problems grasping just how retarded some people are. They sent it to you, but it was addressed to someone in another state? and all that other wrong info... lame, what dumbasses.

My favorite is the phishing emails I've been getting from the "Federal Reserve" with a url to click that has the word "phishing" in it.
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ah okay.

My favorite is the phishing emails I've been getting from the "Federal Reserve" with a url to click that has the word "phishing" in it.
ROFL The stupity in the world never ceases to amaze me!
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Someone thinks you're a threat.
Good, I am glad they think that. It means maybe they will raise their standards, nothing could help the industry more than that. Though I don't think this was a good step in that direction. LOL
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Have you contacted CCBILL and asked them if it was ok to use their trademark in the domain name?
I have contacted CCBill.
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actually even if that one was fake i wouldn't be surprised if you received a real one from CCBill soon since they are sending those out to other sites similar to yours.
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actually even if that one was fake i wouldn't be surprised if you received a real one from CCBill soon since they are sending those out to other sites similar to yours.
when and if I get one that is really from CCBill I will deal with it. I am not trying to infringe on anyone's trademark, if anything I am trying to make them money and me money. So far it is working pretty well.
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It's good not to post the personal info because if the scammer is any good at all
that info is fake.

Name and address could belong to a disabled person and the scammer has the key
to the mail box to "help the disabled fellow out".
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It's good not to post the personal info because if the scammer is any good at all
that info is fake.

Name and address could belong to a disabled person and the scammer has the key
to the mail box to "help the disabled fellow out".
Yeah but if they were able to change that to a fake name why wouldnt they just address it to me?
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