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goldfish 01-15-2009 07:10 AM

It seems someone is a littled pissed
 
I recieved two fake cease and desist letters this morning regarding CCBill Sponsor Sites. They have been forwarded to CCBills fraud department, I am sure there attorneys are going to love this one.

A note to people sending fake cease and desists.

1. You probably shouldn't forward an email you recieved.
2. You should probably make sure your name, address and site URL are not in the original cease and desist.
3. You should probably make sure that the date is correct. or at least close, not 6 months old.
4. You should probably make sure that the email does not reveal that you run a phishing scheme.
5. Upon your realizing that you sent them to domainsbyproxy you shouldn't panic and send an explanation asking them to disregard

I was pissed at first, now this is just laughable!

with permission of the admin here I will gladly post the attachment I recieved, but where it contains personal info until I get permission I will hold on to it.

BVF 01-15-2009 07:12 AM

I give you permission....Post it.

Fletch XXX 01-15-2009 07:12 AM

there is no rule against posting proof of what you say... only linking another forum will get you banned.

goldfish 01-15-2009 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 15332773)
there is no rule against posting proof of what you say... only linking another forum will get you banned.

But there is a rule against posting personal info, and this contains a lot of personal info.
Name, address, phone, site url etc

seeandsee 01-15-2009 07:20 AM

somebody it is

Fletch XXX 01-15-2009 07:20 AM

blur

OR THE CLASSIC WhitE OUT

goldfish 01-15-2009 07:38 AM

http://ccbillsponsorsites.com/fraud-ccbill.gif

There ya go.... But I really wanted to post it without the name and address blacked out.. or atleast the url.

Fletch XXX 01-15-2009 07:39 AM

urls aint personal info, names and such yes, but sites? nah

SteveHardeman 01-15-2009 07:43 AM

I don't get it. What did someone hope to gain from sending you this letter?

goldfish 01-15-2009 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 15332902)
urls aint personal info, names and such yes, but sites? nah

But until I can be sure it was sent by the person named in it, even tho they have already been nailed by CCBill, I am refraining from revealing the url as well.

Gotta cover my ass as well! :thumbsup

goldfish 01-15-2009 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveHardeman (Post 15332913)
I don't get it. What did someone hope to gain from sending you this letter?

I am assuming they were hoping I would shut down ccbillsponsorsites.com, but all they really did as narrow down the possibilities of who sent it to begin with.

Fletch XXX 01-15-2009 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goldfish (Post 15332915)
But until I can be sure it was sent by the person named in it, even tho they have already been nailed by CCBill, I am refraining from revealing the url as well.

Gotta cover my ass as well! :thumbsup

ah, possibly smart move on yer part i suppose.

~Ray 01-15-2009 07:51 AM

rats suck

SteveHardeman 01-15-2009 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goldfish (Post 15332922)
I am assuming they were hoping I would shut down ccbillsponsorsites.com, but all they really did as narrow down the possibilities of who sent it to begin with.


Still don't get it.

This letter would have had to have been sent by a complete and utter idiot for them to believe a letter like that would cause you to shut down your site without asking questions.

Yet, at the same time, the letter is intelligent sounding and well-written.

I can't wait to hear how this unfolds. I hope it's dramaliscious. :-)

Can't be any worse than that AnnaXbiz thread from a few days ago.

Fat Panda 01-15-2009 07:55 AM

who gives a fuck

goldfish 01-15-2009 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveHardeman (Post 15332942)
Still don't get it.

This letter would have had to have been sent by a complete and utter idiot for them to believe a letter like that would cause you to shut down your site without asking questions.

Yet, at the same time, the letter is intelligent sounding and well-written.

I can't wait to hear how this unfolds. I hope it's dramaliscious. :-)

Can't be any worse than that AnnaXbiz thread from a few days ago.

It's well written because it is real as far as I can tell. real meaning it was originally sent from an attorney from ccbill, just to someone other than me.

And who knows with a name like goldfish maybe they thought I was stupid. But goldfish ain't no fool. :winkwink:

cherrylula 01-15-2009 08:04 AM

how do you know its fake? its early maybe I am missing something in here.

Iron Fist 01-15-2009 08:05 AM

See sig to buy traffic to push to ccbillsponsors.com!

goldfish 01-15-2009 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cherrylula (Post 15332970)
how do you know its fake? its early maybe I am missing something in here.

I understand the early part for sure.

1. it wasnt addressed to me, it was addressed to some guy in another state
2. it wasn't addressed to my host
3. it cites a url that i don't own
4. it cited a a service mark I don't use
5. it cited my website as a phishing scheme, we are not a consumer site, nor do we collect any user info.

I am pretty sure the letter is a real C & D from ccbill to someone else, but I am also pretty sure it was just a scare tactic from a competitor.

dsnow 01-15-2009 08:15 AM

wow thats 'in crazy

CaptainHowdy 01-15-2009 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 15332902)
urls aint personal info, names and such yes, but sites? nah

Better safe than sorry...

Ethersync 01-15-2009 09:13 AM

interesting...

cherrylula 01-15-2009 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goldfish (Post 15332993)
I understand the early part for sure.

1. it wasnt addressed to me, it was addressed to some guy in another state
2. it wasn't addressed to my host
3. it cites a url that i don't own
4. it cited a a service mark I don't use
5. it cited my website as a phishing scheme, we are not a consumer site, nor do we collect any user info.

I am pretty sure the letter is a real C & D from ccbill to someone else, but I am also pretty sure it was just a scare tactic from a competitor.

ah okay.

Sometimes I have problems grasping just how retarded some people are. They sent it to you, but it was addressed to someone in another state? and all that other wrong info... lame, what dumbasses.

My favorite is the phishing emails I've been getting from the "Federal Reserve" with a url to click that has the word "phishing" in it. :1orglaugh

goldfish 01-15-2009 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cherrylula (Post 15333215)
ah okay.

My favorite is the phishing emails I've been getting from the "Federal Reserve" with a url to click that has the word "phishing" in it. :1orglaugh

ROFL The stupity in the world never ceases to amaze me!

XX_RydeR 01-15-2009 09:57 AM

Someone thinks you're a threat.

goldfish 01-15-2009 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XX_RydeR (Post 15333352)
Someone thinks you're a threat.

Good, I am glad they think that. It means maybe they will raise their standards, nothing could help the industry more than that. Though I don't think this was a good step in that direction. LOL

nation-x 01-15-2009 10:06 AM

Have you contacted CCBILL and asked them if it was ok to use their trademark in the domain name?

goldfish 01-15-2009 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nation-x (Post 15333389)
Have you contacted CCBILL and asked them if it was ok to use their trademark in the domain name?

I have contacted CCBill.

Shaze 01-15-2009 10:13 AM

actually even if that one was fake i wouldn't be surprised if you received a real one from CCBill soon since they are sending those out to other sites similar to yours. :2 cents:

goldfish 01-15-2009 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaze (Post 15333433)
actually even if that one was fake i wouldn't be surprised if you received a real one from CCBill soon since they are sending those out to other sites similar to yours. :2 cents:

when and if I get one that is really from CCBill I will deal with it. I am not trying to infringe on anyone's trademark, if anything I am trying to make them money and me money. So far it is working pretty well.

sortie 01-15-2009 10:23 AM

It's good not to post the personal info because if the scammer is any good at all
that info is fake.

Name and address could belong to a disabled person and the scammer has the key
to the mail box to "help the disabled fellow out".

goldfish 01-15-2009 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sortie (Post 15333472)
It's good not to post the personal info because if the scammer is any good at all
that info is fake.

Name and address could belong to a disabled person and the scammer has the key
to the mail box to "help the disabled fellow out".

Yeah but if they were able to change that to a fake name why wouldnt they just address it to me?


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