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Old 12-02-2008, 02:42 PM   #1
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Why do shitty designers do this?

I send everything and they say "I'll do it in 2 days" They disappear for 2 weeks and come back with a crap product. So I have them do it properly as it should be done. They finish, and after 3 weeks of bullshit, DEMAND payment IMMEDIATELY even though they ignored my icqs for weeks.

How is it okay that they fuck off and leave me hanging, but when I decide "nah fuck you I'll pay you when I feel like it" that's not kosher?

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Old 12-02-2008, 02:44 PM   #2
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you should be using people with a reputation for delivering the goods, instead of someone you wont name...
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Old 12-02-2008, 02:46 PM   #3
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Old 12-02-2008, 02:46 PM   #4
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quoted for truth
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Old 12-02-2008, 02:47 PM   #5
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where have you been? designers who deliver on time don't exist.
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Old 12-02-2008, 02:55 PM   #8
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yeah it sucks but there are some designers left that do the job as promised and are pretty skilled.
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Old 12-02-2008, 03:00 PM   #9
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Oh BradM, your mysogynistic gripes are your most endearing quality.
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Old 12-02-2008, 03:21 PM   #10
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Old 12-02-2008, 03:25 PM   #11
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you answered your own question in your thread title ;) haha cause they
are "shitty designers"
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Old 12-02-2008, 03:28 PM   #12
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you answered your own question in your thread title ;) haha cause they
are "shitty designers"
You Asians and your fucking mind reading mind bending philosophical shit. No wonder you're all monks and peaceful.
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Old 12-02-2008, 03:30 PM   #13
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you should be using people with a reputation for delivering the goods, instead of someone you wont name...
And work with someone like you? A pissed off anti religion liberal fuckhead? I spend 4k a month on random outside design work and I won't give you a penny of it because I think you're an ass.

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Old 12-02-2008, 03:31 PM   #14
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It sure ain't easy to find a reliable designer these days.

There's a reason why those who are good are reasonably expensive and always busy

I've experienced a lot of hassle myself

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Old 12-02-2008, 03:38 PM   #15
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I send everything and they say "I'll do it in 2 days" They disappear for 2 weeks and come back with a crap product. So I have them do it properly as it should be done. They finish, and after 3 weeks of bullshit, DEMAND payment IMMEDIATELY even though they ignored my icqs for weeks.

How is it okay that they fuck off and leave me hanging, but when I decide "nah fuck you I'll pay you when I feel like it" that's not kosher?

LMK TNX.
let's SEE the design.. always nice with a good laugh
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Old 12-02-2008, 04:05 PM   #16
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And work with someone like you? A pissed off anti religion liberal fuckhead? I spend 4k a month on random outside design work and I won't give you a penny of it because I think you're an ass.
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Old 12-02-2008, 04:08 PM   #17
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Old 12-02-2008, 04:11 PM   #18
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Oh, sorry I forgot the "you don't actually spend that" retort.
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Oh, sorry I forgot the "you don't actually spend that" retort.
Show us the designs
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Old 12-02-2008, 04:18 PM   #20
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designers are not the only ones doing that .. article writers, programmers and many others pull crap like that and their excuse is that their connection fucked up, the hard drive crashed their house burned, they were reposed, a natural disaster happened.... I am tired of all that bullshit .. I am looking different people to work for me...nuff of all the bullcrap! ...
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Old 12-02-2008, 04:26 PM   #21
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Old 12-02-2008, 06:04 PM   #22
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Its why I have a designer on payroll. If and when he does that, he is gone.
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Old 12-02-2008, 06:08 PM   #23
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haha.. classic... a complaint about shitty designers and a shitty designer whoring himself out for peanuts is the first to reply and give lectures on good business sense.


bottom line... most self employed people making under six figures a year are self employed because they are unemployable to begin with,... they don't like authority, they don't like rules, they don't like schedules, they don't like someone managing them etc with and that's part of what you have to deal with when dealing with that type of person.
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Old 12-02-2008, 06:10 PM   #24
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Old 12-02-2008, 06:11 PM   #25
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I send everything and they say "I'll do it in 2 days" They disappear for 2 weeks and come back with a crap product. So I have them do it properly as it should be done. They finish, and after 3 weeks of bullshit, DEMAND payment IMMEDIATELY even though they ignored my icqs for weeks.

How is it okay that they fuck off and leave me hanging, but when I decide "nah fuck you I'll pay you when I feel like it" that's not kosher?

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I think you answered your own question in the thread title
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That's the main reason why I just use in-house designers now.

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if you spend 4k month on designs. why not hire an inhouse designer to work for you full time. I would think you could even find someone part time for 2k month that would be reliable and better.
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if you spend 4k month on designs. why not hire an inhouse designer to work for you full time. I would think you could even find someone part time for 2k month that would be reliable and better.
exactly. no one spends 4k a month on random design work from random designers

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Old 12-02-2008, 10:47 PM   #32
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Designers are hit and miss.

When you do find a good one, make sure you pay him/her a little bonus
now and then. They wont fuck you over so much lol. Most of the people
you are trying and using probably are overselling their time.

Good luck though.
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bottom line... most self employed people making under six figures a year are self employed because they are unemployable to begin with,... they don't like authority, they don't like rules, they don't like schedules, they don't like someone managing them etc with and that's part of what you have to deal with when dealing with that type of person.
Well you wrapped that up pretty nice and tight!

I'm scoring 0/6 on the PleasurePays Poll... what makes you think everyone on here does this full time or this is ALL they do?
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And work with someone like you? A pissed off anti religion liberal fuckhead? I spend 4k a month on random outside design work and I won't give you a penny of it because I think you're an ass.
wow, i can't believe I agree with you
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Sometimes finishing projects specially if you're working like 3 to 4 projects with almost the same turn around time is like reaching the finish line when you're still in the first lap.. It's just a matter of time management for the designers.. I, myself had my rough times when I can't finish a project on time. But at least let the client know what's up and you should set a standard for your self that you must at least finish 80% of all your projects on time.

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Designers who deliver a quality product on time are kept very close to the chest!
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