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nation-x · 10-01-2008, 11:39 AM

wow... you have shitty traffic

DarkJedi · 10-01-2008, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by nation-x

wow... you have shitty traffic

Maybe it's not the traffic that is shitty?

BVF · 10-01-2008, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by nation-x

wow... you have shitty traffic

maybe shitty yet a decent amount.

BVF · 10-01-2008, 11:43 AM

Holy shit, I was only looking at the raw hits.....Those ratios are insane!

woj · 10-01-2008, 11:45 AM

0 in 36k?! that can't possibly be normal clicked traffic, are you redirecting 404 traffic to them or something?

Fresh · 10-01-2008, 11:46 AM

Davey,

Dont mean to come off spammy but if you wanna try something different, TubeClicks might be your thing.

We are the first tube affiliate program and run a 100% legal tube site called Gutter.com. You push your traffic to Gutter.com and collect checks directly from 18 industry leading sponsors that are working with us. You keep 100% of the commissions you make from these 3rd party sponsors, we dont take a piece of the pie or skim your traffic. Its just like having your own tube site with all the work already done for you

Let me know if you wanna give it a shot, Ill be happy to help you out

sortie · 10-01-2008, 11:47 AM

All I can say is everything looks normal based on what I'm getting everywhere.

crockett · 10-01-2008, 11:49 AM

What kind of traffic are you sending? Also what non ccbill programs can you compare this too while using the same traffic?

DarkJedi · 10-01-2008, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by woj

0 in 36k?! that can't possibly be normal clicked traffic, are you redirecting 404 traffic to them or something?

All of that is clicked traffic. And not from CJs either.

Cyndalie · 10-01-2008, 11:53 AM

Ouch.

Sadly you are not alone.

seeandsee · 10-01-2008, 11:53 AM

Really sucky ratios!

Jens Van Assterdam · 10-01-2008, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by sortie

All I can say is everything looks normal based on what I'm getting everywhere.

Scary stats DJ

Hope your "normal" stats look better then this..

DarkJedi · 10-01-2008, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett

What kind of traffic are you sending? Also what non ccbill programs can you compare this too while using the same traffic?

Most of them are "solo girls" programs.

We all know the integrity of those (being run by a single webmaster, models running away after a few months of work, etc.)

That's why they choose ccbill - cause it's easy to set up.

Big operation programs (on Nats) are doing okay.

JamesK · 10-01-2008, 11:55 AM

Show your other stats so we can compare

foghead · 10-01-2008, 11:57 AM

For starters i would drop the 0:29k and 0:36k in an instant.

Matyko · 10-01-2008, 11:58 AM

I said several times, this is not funny anymore.

Surfers around here, don't just read this fucking board but please save us by signing up to some dozens of sites! ;)

fastboy · 10-01-2008, 11:59 AM

damn, you are really ass fucked, something is wrong here, maybe to analyze your traffic sources?

- Jesus Christ - · 10-01-2008, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Davey Jones

All of that is clicked traffic.

If that really is clicked and US based... you seriously need to look at what your doing instead of blaming the billing system.

If its not all US start sorting it and find programs that will convert surfers from each region.

DarkJedi · 10-01-2008, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JamesK

Show your other stats so we can compare

They're fine, trust me.

That why i'm not worrying about them.

Bojangles · 10-01-2008, 12:04 PM

Holy shit.

DarkJedi · 10-01-2008, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by - Jesus Christ -

If that really is clicked and US based... you seriously need to look at what your doing instead of blaming the billing system.

If its not all US start sorting it and find programs that will convert surfers from each region.

First of all, i'm not blaming the processor. It's just something that caught my eye while I was checking all the stats. NATS based big programs perform much better, though they are more targeted.

It is clicked traffic. If it's 100% US i dont know, because I don't track it, but it's general traffic that is floating around (SE's, blogs, freesites etc)

Problem is, i'm too lazy to fuck with it (clean it up, remove old links, set up new ads, etc)

DarkJedi · 10-01-2008, 12:11 PM

Check out the asshole from Bonanza Bucks.

Know why there is 36k unique hits and no sales? Because there used to be one model, then she quit, then the fucker completely removed all her content. That's right, on the front page of the site there is a completely different girl. Ofc. surfers click the thumb expecting to see the old model, but get some bullshit instead.

Webmasters like these should be fucking shot.

notoldschool · 10-01-2008, 12:19 PM

If it was bought traffic i could understand but if its SE then thats pathetic no matter what proggie your using.

Sosa · 10-01-2008, 12:25 PM

wow that is terrible. Can't believe that ratio for melissa

KillerK · 10-01-2008, 12:26 PM

maybe its all the cookie stuffing going on that is fucking you

Robbie · 10-01-2008, 12:34 PM

I'm finding that more and more surfers are using my TGP's to find new stuff, clicking to the tour to see if they really like it...and then instead of buying a membership (like they used to) they leave.

When that is happening to sites that always converted...I can only come up with one rational idea. They are using me to find what's hot and then are going to search the tubes for the content for free.

I have seen simiilar ratios in my stats for some very big companies that I have promoted for years and years. Can't sell shit on them now. Sending plenty of good, real traffic. But not seeing any conversions.

You can say "Your traffic sucks" until the cows come home. But every hit I send is a real human being clicking on a link that they are interested in. If it doesn't convert at the tour, then there is something happening.

My belief, from my years of experience, is that they are using us as a way to find the next site to search for that has the members area ripped on a tube.

Trixie · 10-01-2008, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Davey Jones

Most of them are "solo girls" programs.

We all know the integrity of those (being run by a single webmaster, models running away after a few months of work, etc.)

That's why they choose ccbill - cause it's easy to set up.

Big operation programs (on Nats) are doing okay.

Let's not paint everyone with the same brush and call into question the INTEGRITY of all sponsors using ccbill to administer their programs; I know a lot of independently owned/operated personality sites who've been around for YEARS, including my own since 2002. Just because people use ccbill and may have less resources than big corporate porn sponsors hardly means they have less INTEGRITY. That's just bullshit.

Plus you can find assloads of threads attesting to the greater trust webmasters have with ccbill administered programs vs. NATS. There is no shaving with ccbill sponsors.

Trixie · 10-01-2008, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

I'm finding that more and more surfers are using my TGP's to find new stuff, clicking to the tour to see if they really like it...and then instead of buying a membership (like they used to) they leave.

When that is happening to sites that always converted...I can only come up with one rational idea. They are using me to find what's hot and then are going to search the tubes for the content for free.

I have seen simiilar ratios in my stats for some very big companies that I have promoted for years and years. Can't sell shit on them now. Sending plenty of good, real traffic. But not seeing any conversions.

You can say "Your traffic sucks" until the cows come home. But every hit I send is a real human being clicking on a link that they are interested in. If it doesn't convert at the tour, then there is something happening.

My belief, from my years of experience, is that they are using us as a way to find the next site to search for that has the members area ripped on a tube.

All good points, especially since people are talking about the next depression hitting us. People are going to be stealing even more porn than they were three months ago instead of paying for it.

DarkJedi · 10-01-2008, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Sosa

wow that is terrible. Can't believe that ratio for melissa

Cant believe it either. All that traffic is being clicked from a blog post.

I don't know why the fuck she doesn't convert.

cherrylula · 10-01-2008, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davey Jones

Most of them are "solo girls" programs.

We all know the integrity of those (being run by a single webmaster, models running away after a few months of work, etc.)

That's why they choose ccbill - cause it's easy to set up.

Big operation programs (on Nats) are doing okay.

Ash Cash

LeRoy · 10-01-2008, 12:45 PM

Maybe it's Karma...

cherrylula · 10-01-2008, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Davey Jones

Check out the asshole from Bonanza Bucks.

Know why there is 36k unique hits and no sales? Because there used to be one model, then she quit, then the fucker completely removed all her content. That's right, on the front page of the site there is a completely different girl. Ofc. surfers click the thumb expecting to see the old model, but get some bullshit instead.

Webmasters like these should be fucking shot.

Yep, those programs really didn't (do not) know what they are doing when they make changes like that. Lose/lose situation.

Agent 488 · 10-01-2008, 12:46 PM

or mentally bookmarking it and googling it later. i'm finding se traffic decent day in day out. the surfer is just getting smarter.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

I'm finding that more and more surfers are using my TGP's to find new stuff, clicking to the tour to see if they really like it...and then instead of buying a membership (like they used to) they leave.

When that is happening to sites that always converted...I can only come up with one rational idea. They are using me to find what's hot and then are going to search the tubes for the content for free.

I have seen simiilar ratios in my stats for some very big companies that I have promoted for years and years. Can't sell shit on them now. Sending plenty of good, real traffic. But not seeing any conversions.

You can say "Your traffic sucks" until the cows come home. But every hit I send is a real human being clicking on a link that they are interested in. If it doesn't convert at the tour, then there is something happening.

My belief, from my years of experience, is that they are using us as a way to find the next site to search for that has the members area ripped on a tube.

Agent 488 · 10-01-2008, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Davey Jones

Cant believe it either. All that traffic is being clicked from a blog post.

I don't know why the fuck she doesn't convert.

that's brutal. kinds sad he didn't even bring the trial to full membership.

96ukssob · 10-01-2008, 12:53 PM

damn, thats not to good at all.

ive noticed my ccbill stats for some sponsors are starting to go down hill as well. im wondering if its a cookie related issue or something that is causing a problem.. not trying to cause drama but i dont know how CCbill processes the affiliate sale

DarkJedi · 10-01-2008, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by cherrylula

Ash Cash

you should see the names of the programs that were left off list.

it's comedy gold.

Manowar · 10-01-2008, 12:57 PM

those MM stats are seriously funky, she's always done well for me on the same sort of traffic

especially rebills, and it's not like her members area is sparce

weird as hell.

Marky333 · 10-01-2008, 12:59 PM

Wish you good luck in the future.

d-null · 10-01-2008, 01:01 PM

always got to be an idiot or two that says "your traffic sucks"

I'm seeing pretty much the same kind of things, and that is on mostly google search traffic, so

with the "your traffic sucks" bs

(and respect for some honest stats DJ)

crockett · 10-01-2008, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Davey Jones

Cant believe it either. All that traffic is being clicked from a blog post.

I don't know why the fuck she doesn't convert.

Is that direct hits to a tour or to a gallery? Some ccbill programs count hits to galleries in your stats, which totally screws up the stats.

d-null · 10-01-2008, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

Is that direct hits to a tour or to a gallery? Some ccbill programs count hits to galleries in your stats, which totally screws up the stats.

realistically, all programs should count ALL unique hits you send them

but for most of the ones that really matter in his list, I think they only count hits to join pages

notoldschool · 10-01-2008, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

I'm finding that more and more surfers are using my TGP's to find new stuff, clicking to the tour to see if they really like it...and then instead of buying a membership (like they used to) they leave.

When that is happening to sites that always converted...I can only come up with one rational idea. They are using me to find what's hot and then are going to search the tubes for the content for free.

I have seen simiilar ratios in my stats for some very big companies that I have promoted for years and years. Can't sell shit on them now. Sending plenty of good, real traffic. But not seeing any conversions.

You can say "Your traffic sucks" until the cows come home. But every hit I send is a real human being clicking on a link that they are interested in. If it doesn't convert at the tour, then there is something happening.

My belief, from my years of experience, is that they are using us as a way to find the next site to search for that has the members area ripped on a tube.

I agree. Tube sites are fucking everyone. There is zero reason to join ANY paysite when you get an unlimited amount of 20 minute vids, and it doesnt matter it they are stolen or not.

$hurik · 10-01-2008, 01:31 PM

hit me up on icq, i might be able to pay you on pay per click basis so you can test your traffic with us

rowan · 10-01-2008, 01:48 PM

Are you sending to FHGs with any of those accounts? Is it possible they're using the "quick and dirty" method of requiring you to link to them via refer.ccbill.com (thus increasing your raw count)?

tabasco · 10-01-2008, 01:56 PM

Check out this shit from a sponser I used to 40 odd sales a month with to this. Get no reply to emails now to boot. Got a shitload of links to switch today.

Getting so fucking disillusioned with this business. Once some sponsers think they've got in you in their pocket...

Must be my traffic. :P

Miguel T · 10-01-2008, 01:58 PM

Looks like it is tgp traffic... am I wrong?

Pretty_Lara · 10-01-2008, 02:04 PM

try us we cnvert better ;) anyway now all down ..but soon we thinking evruthing will be ok ;)

RayBonga · 10-01-2008, 02:07 PM

that's fucked up. ouch

NY Jester · 10-01-2008, 02:22 PM

Wow, I see some bad ratios but never that deep on CCBill sites.

I don't buy the whole Tube excuse. I think that's a cop out - I think surfers are more savvy on porn and many look at more than one gallery or free site or whatever means of promotion you're using before they're interested enough in buying. Cookies may have a bigger place in it all than most give credit for. What is the average cookie life for CCBill programs?

10-01-2008, 11:36 AM	#1
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	My CCbill programs stats: why do I feel like being assfucked? [pic]

10-01-2008, 11:43 AM	#5
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10-01-2008, 11:45 AM	#6
woj <&(©¿©)&> Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 47,882	0 in 36k?! that can't possibly be normal clicked traffic, are you redirecting 404 traffic to them or something? __________________ Custom Software Development, email: woj#at#wojfun#.#com to discuss details or skype: wojl2000 or gchat: wojfun or telegram: wojl2000 Affiliate program tools: Hosted Galleries Manager Banner Manager Video Manager Wordpress Affiliate Plugin Pic/Movie of the Day Fansign Generator Zip Manager Last edited by woj; 10-01-2008 at 11:47 AM..

10-01-2008, 11:46 AM	#7
Fresh TubeClicks.com - First Tube Affiliate Program Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: LA Posts: 4,920	Davey, Dont mean to come off spammy but if you wanna try something different, TubeClicks might be your thing. We are the first tube affiliate program and run a 100% legal tube site called Gutter.com. You push your traffic to Gutter.com and collect checks directly from 18 industry leading sponsors that are working with us. You keep 100% of the commissions you make from these 3rd party sponsors, we dont take a piece of the pie or skim your traffic. Its just like having your own tube site with all the work already done for you Let me know if you wanna give it a shot, Ill be happy to help you out __________________ Promote ONE Legal Tube Site, Collect Checks from 19 Sponsors Fresh Dave \| Email: [email protected] \| ICQ: 317160390

10-01-2008, 11:47 AM	#8
sortie Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,771	All I can say is everything looks normal based on what I'm getting everywhere. __________________

10-01-2008, 11:39 AM	#2
nation-x Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 5,370	wow... you have shitty traffic

10-01-2008, 11:49 AM	#9
crockett in a van by the river Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 76,806	What kind of traffic are you sending? Also what non ccbill programs can you compare this too while using the same traffic? __________________ In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

10-01-2008, 11:53 AM	#11
Cyndalie Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Cherry Hill, NJ Posts: 3,615	Ouch. Sadly you are not alone. __________________ Cyndalie Marketing Director StoriesTraffic.com

10-01-2008, 11:53 AM	#12
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10-01-2008, 11:55 AM	#15
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10-01-2008, 11:57 AM	#16
foghead Confirmed User Join Date: May 2007 Location: toronto Posts: 113	For starters i would drop the 0:29k and 0:36k in an instant.

10-01-2008, 11:58 AM	#17
Matyko PsyHead Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hungary Posts: 8,674	I said several times, this is not funny anymore. Surfers around here, don't just read this fucking board but please save us by signing up to some dozens of sites! ;) __________________ -=- Register with our ref link and we help you with the setup! -=- AdSpyglass.com - Double your profit from brokers

10-01-2008, 11:59 AM	#18
fastboy Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: 493-390-837 Posts: 517	damn, you are really ass fucked, something is wrong here, maybe to analyze your traffic sources? __________________

10-01-2008, 12:04 PM	#21
Bojangles Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,419	Holy shit.

10-01-2008, 12:11 PM	#23
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	Check out the asshole from Bonanza Bucks. Know why there is 36k unique hits and no sales? Because there used to be one model, then she quit, then the fucker completely removed all her content. That's right, on the front page of the site there is a completely different girl. Ofc. surfers click the thumb expecting to see the old model, but get some bullshit instead. Webmasters like these should be fucking shot.

10-01-2008, 12:19 PM	#24
notoldschool Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 5,687	If it was bought traffic i could understand but if its SE then thats pathetic no matter what proggie your using. __________________ No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture. -- Learned Hand http://www.bjpenn.com

10-01-2008, 12:25 PM	#25
Sosa In Tushy Land Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 40,149	wow that is terrible. Can't believe that ratio for melissa

10-01-2008, 12:26 PM	#26
KillerK Confirmed User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3,406	maybe its all the cookie stuffing going on that is fucking you

10-01-2008, 12:34 PM	#27
Robbie Leaner, Meaner, Faster Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 20,959	I'm finding that more and more surfers are using my TGP's to find new stuff, clicking to the tour to see if they really like it...and then instead of buying a membership (like they used to) they leave. When that is happening to sites that always converted...I can only come up with one rational idea. They are using me to find what's hot and then are going to search the tubes for the content for free. I have seen simiilar ratios in my stats for some very big companies that I have promoted for years and years. Can't sell shit on them now. Sending plenty of good, real traffic. But not seeing any conversions. You can say "Your traffic sucks" until the cows come home. But every hit I send is a real human being clicking on a link that they are interested in. If it doesn't convert at the tour, then there is something happening. My belief, from my years of experience, is that they are using us as a way to find the next site to search for that has the members area ripped on a tube. __________________ -Robbie ClaudiaMarie.Com

10-01-2008, 12:45 PM	#32
LeRoy Porn Pusher Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: It's a dry heat Posts: 13,346	Maybe it's Karma... __________________ JAPANESE CAMS AND CONTENT SITES Teams - leroy.rowland2 Telegram - @lroddd

10-01-2008, 12:53 PM	#36
96ukssob So Fucking Banananananas Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: If I was in your ass you'd know it Posts: 12,991	damn, thats not to good at all. ive noticed my ccbill stats for some sponsors are starting to go down hill as well. im wondering if its a cookie related issue or something that is causing a problem.. not trying to cause drama but i dont know how CCbill processes the affiliate sale __________________ Email: Clicky on Me

10-01-2008, 12:57 PM	#38
Manowar jellyfish Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 71,528	those MM stats are seriously funky, she's always done well for me on the same sort of traffic especially rebills, and it's not like her members area is sparce weird as hell.

10-01-2008, 12:59 PM	#39
Marky333 Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 974	Wish you good luck in the future.

10-01-2008, 01:01 PM	#40
d-null . . . Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY Posts: 13,724	always got to be an idiot or two that says "your traffic sucks" I'm seeing pretty much the same kind of things, and that is on mostly google search traffic, so with the "your traffic sucks" bs (and respect for some honest stats DJ)

10-01-2008, 01:31 PM	#44
$hurik Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Manalapan, NJ Posts: 853	hit me up on icq, i might be able to pay you on pay per click basis so you can test your traffic with us

10-01-2008, 01:48 PM	#45
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	Are you sending to FHGs with any of those accounts? Is it possible they're using the "quick and dirty" method of requiring you to link to them via refer.ccbill.com (thus increasing your raw count)?

10-01-2008, 01:56 PM	#46
tabasco Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In a van down by the river Posts: 2,624	Check out this shit from a sponser I used to 40 odd sales a month with to this. Get no reply to emails now to boot. Got a shitload of links to switch today. Getting so fucking disillusioned with this business. Once some sponsers think they've got in you in their pocket... Must be my traffic. :P __________________ "There is no other way to see a thing except to look at it" - fatfoo

10-01-2008, 01:58 PM	#47
Miguel T ♦ Web Developer ♦ Industry Role: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Full-Stack Developer Posts: 12,472	Looks like it is tgp traffic... am I wrong? __________________ Full Stack Webdeveloper: HTML5/CSS3, jQuery, AJAX, ElevatedX, NATS, MechBunny, Wordpress

10-01-2008, 02:04 PM	#48
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10-01-2008, 02:07 PM	#49
RayBonga too cool for highschool Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: East side, West side, Worldwide! Posts: 12,164	that's fucked up. ouch

10-01-2008, 02:22 PM	#50
NY Jester Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New York State Posts: 1,347	Wow, I see some bad ratios but never that deep on CCBill sites. I don't buy the whole Tube excuse. I think that's a cop out - I think surfers are more savvy on porn and many look at more than one gallery or free site or whatever means of promotion you're using before they're interested enough in buying. Cookies may have a bigger place in it all than most give credit for. What is the average cookie life for CCBill programs? __________________ Jester X Web Services ICQ: 147 079 406 MadCatLinks.com