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  • DarkJedi
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    • Feb 2001
    • 28301

    #1

    My CCbill programs stats: why do I feel like being assfucked? [pic]



  • nation-x
    Confirmed User
    • Mar 2004
    • 5370

    #2
    wow... you have shitty traffic

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    • DarkJedi
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      • Feb 2001
      • 28301

      #3
      Originally posted by nation-x
      wow... you have shitty traffic
      Maybe it's not the traffic that is shitty?

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      • BVF
        Black Vagina Finder
        • Jan 2002
        • 13975

        #4
        Originally posted by nation-x
        wow... you have shitty traffic
        maybe shitty yet a decent amount.

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        • BVF
          Black Vagina Finder
          • Jan 2002
          • 13975

          #5
          Holy shit, I was only looking at the raw hits.....Those ratios are insane!

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          • woj
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            • Jul 2002
            • 47882

            #6
            0 in 36k?! that can't possibly be normal clicked traffic, are you redirecting 404 traffic to them or something?
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            • Fresh
              • Mar 2005
              • 4920

              #7
              Davey,

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              • sortie
                Confirmed User
                • Mar 2007
                • 7771

                #8
                All I can say is everything looks normal based on what I'm getting everywhere.

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                • crockett
                  in a van by the river
                  • May 2003
                  • 76818

                  #9
                  What kind of traffic are you sending? Also what non ccbill programs can you compare this too while using the same traffic?
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                  • DarkJedi
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                    • Feb 2001
                    • 28301

                    #10
                    Originally posted by woj
                    0 in 36k?! that can't possibly be normal clicked traffic, are you redirecting 404 traffic to them or something?
                    All of that is clicked traffic. And not from CJs either.

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                    • Cyndalie
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jan 2002
                      • 3615

                      #11
                      Ouch.

                      Sadly you are not alone.
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                      • seeandsee
                        Check SIG!
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 50945

                        #12
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                        • Jens Van Assterdam
                          The Dupre Pimp
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 6677

                          #13
                          Originally posted by sortie
                          All I can say is everything looks normal based on what I'm getting everywhere.


                          Scary stats DJ
                          Hope your "normal" stats look better then this..
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                          • DarkJedi
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                            • Feb 2001
                            • 28301

                            #14
                            Originally posted by crockett
                            What kind of traffic are you sending? Also what non ccbill programs can you compare this too while using the same traffic?
                            Most of them are "solo girls" programs.

                            We all know the integrity of those (being run by a single webmaster, models running away after a few months of work, etc.)

                            That's why they choose ccbill - cause it's easy to set up.


                            Big operation programs (on Nats) are doing okay.

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                            • JamesK
                              hi
                              • Jun 2002
                              • 16731

                              #15
                              Show your other stats so we can compare
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                              • foghead
                                Confirmed User
                                • May 2007
                                • 113

                                #16
                                For starters i would drop the 0:29k and 0:36k in an instant.

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                                • Matyko
                                  PsyHead
                                  • Aug 2005
                                  • 8681

                                  #17
                                  I said several times, this is not funny anymore.
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                                  • fastboy
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • May 2002
                                    • 517

                                    #18
                                    damn, you are really ass fucked, something is wrong here, maybe to analyze your traffic sources?

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                                    • - Jesus Christ -
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Mar 2003
                                      • 7197

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Davey Jones
                                      All of that is clicked traffic.
                                      If that really is clicked and US based... you seriously need to look at what your doing instead of blaming the billing system.

                                      If its not all US start sorting it and find programs that will convert surfers from each region.

                                      Amen

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                                      • DarkJedi
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                                        • Feb 2001
                                        • 28301

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by JamesK
                                        Show your other stats so we can compare
                                        They're fine, trust me.

                                        That why i'm not worrying about them.

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                                        • Bojangles
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Apr 2007
                                          • 5419

                                          #21
                                          Holy shit.

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                                          • DarkJedi
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                                            • Feb 2001
                                            • 28301

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by - Jesus Christ -
                                            If that really is clicked and US based... you seriously need to look at what your doing instead of blaming the billing system.

                                            If its not all US start sorting it and find programs that will convert surfers from each region.
                                            First of all, i'm not blaming the processor. It's just something that caught my eye while I was checking all the stats. NATS based big programs perform much better, though they are more targeted.

                                            It is clicked traffic. If it's 100% US i dont know, because I don't track it, but it's general traffic that is floating around (SE's, blogs, freesites etc)

                                            Problem is, i'm too lazy to fuck with it (clean it up, remove old links, set up new ads, etc)

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                                            • DarkJedi
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                                              • Feb 2001
                                              • 28301

                                              #23
                                              Check out the asshole from Bonanza Bucks.

                                              Know why there is 36k unique hits and no sales? Because there used to be one model, then she quit, then the fucker completely removed all her content. That's right, on the front page of the site there is a completely different girl. Ofc. surfers click the thumb expecting to see the old model, but get some bullshit instead.

                                              Webmasters like these should be fucking shot.

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                                              • notoldschool
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Aug 2007
                                                • 5687

                                                #24
                                                If it was bought traffic i could understand but if its SE then thats pathetic no matter what proggie your using.
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                                                • Sosa
                                                  In Tushy Land
                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                  • 40149

                                                  #25
                                                  wow that is terrible. Can't believe that ratio for melissa

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                                                  • KillerK
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • May 2008
                                                    • 3406

                                                    #26
                                                    maybe its all the cookie stuffing going on that is fucking you

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                                                    • Robbie
                                                      Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                      • 20960

                                                      #27
                                                      I'm finding that more and more surfers are using my TGP's to find new stuff, clicking to the tour to see if they really like it...and then instead of buying a membership (like they used to) they leave.

                                                      When that is happening to sites that always converted...I can only come up with one rational idea. They are using me to find what's hot and then are going to search the tubes for the content for free.

                                                      I have seen simiilar ratios in my stats for some very big companies that I have promoted for years and years. Can't sell shit on them now. Sending plenty of good, real traffic. But not seeing any conversions.

                                                      You can say "Your traffic sucks" until the cows come home. But every hit I send is a real human being clicking on a link that they are interested in. If it doesn't convert at the tour, then there is something happening.

                                                      My belief, from my years of experience, is that they are using us as a way to find the next site to search for that has the members area ripped on a tube.
                                                      -Robbie
                                                      ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                                                      • Trixie
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                        • 1850

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Davey Jones
                                                        Most of them are "solo girls" programs.

                                                        We all know the integrity of those (being run by a single webmaster, models running away after a few months of work, etc.)

                                                        That's why they choose ccbill - cause it's easy to set up.


                                                        Big operation programs (on Nats) are doing okay.
                                                        Let's not paint everyone with the same brush and call into question the INTEGRITY of all sponsors using ccbill to administer their programs; I know a lot of independently owned/operated personality sites who've been around for YEARS, including my own since 2002. Just because people use ccbill and may have less resources than big corporate porn sponsors hardly means they have less INTEGRITY. That's just bullshit.

                                                        Plus you can find assloads of threads attesting to the greater trust webmasters have with ccbill administered programs vs. NATS. There is no shaving with ccbill sponsors.
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                                                        • Trixie
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                          • 1850

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Robbie
                                                          I'm finding that more and more surfers are using my TGP's to find new stuff, clicking to the tour to see if they really like it...and then instead of buying a membership (like they used to) they leave.

                                                          When that is happening to sites that always converted...I can only come up with one rational idea. They are using me to find what's hot and then are going to search the tubes for the content for free.

                                                          I have seen simiilar ratios in my stats for some very big companies that I have promoted for years and years. Can't sell shit on them now. Sending plenty of good, real traffic. But not seeing any conversions.

                                                          You can say "Your traffic sucks" until the cows come home. But every hit I send is a real human being clicking on a link that they are interested in. If it doesn't convert at the tour, then there is something happening.

                                                          My belief, from my years of experience, is that they are using us as a way to find the next site to search for that has the members area ripped on a tube.
                                                          All good points, especially since people are talking about the next depression hitting us. People are going to be stealing even more porn than they were three months ago instead of paying for it.
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                                                          • DarkJedi
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                                                            • Feb 2001
                                                            • 28301

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Sosa
                                                            wow that is terrible. Can't believe that ratio for melissa


                                                            Cant believe it either. All that traffic is being clicked from a blog post.

                                                            I don't know why the fuck she doesn't convert.

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                                                            • cherrylula
                                                              lol
                                                              • Jan 2002
                                                              • 15969

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Davey Jones
                                                              Most of them are "solo girls" programs.

                                                              We all know the integrity of those (being run by a single webmaster, models running away after a few months of work, etc.)

                                                              That's why they choose ccbill - cause it's easy to set up.


                                                              Big operation programs (on Nats) are doing okay.

                                                              Ash Cash

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                                                              • LeRoy
                                                                Porn Pusher
                                                                • Jul 2007
                                                                • 13364

                                                                #32
                                                                Maybe it's Karma...
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                                                                • cherrylula
                                                                  lol
                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                  • 15969

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Davey Jones
                                                                  Check out the asshole from Bonanza Bucks.

                                                                  Know why there is 36k unique hits and no sales? Because there used to be one model, then she quit, then the fucker completely removed all her content. That's right, on the front page of the site there is a completely different girl. Ofc. surfers click the thumb expecting to see the old model, but get some bullshit instead.

                                                                  Webmasters like these should be fucking shot.
                                                                  Yep, those programs really didn't (do not) know what they are doing when they make changes like that. Lose/lose situation.

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                                                                  • Agent 488
                                                                    Registered User
                                                                    • Feb 2006
                                                                    • 22511

                                                                    #34
                                                                    or mentally bookmarking it and googling it later. i'm finding se traffic decent day in day out. the surfer is just getting smarter.

                                                                    Originally posted by Robbie
                                                                    I'm finding that more and more surfers are using my TGP's to find new stuff, clicking to the tour to see if they really like it...and then instead of buying a membership (like they used to) they leave.

                                                                    When that is happening to sites that always converted...I can only come up with one rational idea. They are using me to find what's hot and then are going to search the tubes for the content for free.

                                                                    I have seen simiilar ratios in my stats for some very big companies that I have promoted for years and years. Can't sell shit on them now. Sending plenty of good, real traffic. But not seeing any conversions.

                                                                    You can say "Your traffic sucks" until the cows come home. But every hit I send is a real human being clicking on a link that they are interested in. If it doesn't convert at the tour, then there is something happening.

                                                                    My belief, from my years of experience, is that they are using us as a way to find the next site to search for that has the members area ripped on a tube.

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                                                                    • Agent 488
                                                                      Registered User
                                                                      • Feb 2006
                                                                      • 22511

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Davey Jones


                                                                      Cant believe it either. All that traffic is being clicked from a blog post.

                                                                      I don't know why the fuck she doesn't convert.
                                                                      that's brutal. kinds sad he didn't even bring the trial to full membership.

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                                                                      • 96ukssob
                                                                        So Fucking Banananananas
                                                                        • Mar 2003
                                                                        • 12991

                                                                        #36
                                                                        damn, thats not to good at all.

                                                                        ive noticed my ccbill stats for some sponsors are starting to go down hill as well. im wondering if its a cookie related issue or something that is causing a problem.. not trying to cause drama but i dont know how CCbill processes the affiliate sale
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                                                                        • DarkJedi
                                                                          No Refunds Issued.
                                                                          • Feb 2001
                                                                          • 28301

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by cherrylula
                                                                          Ash Cash
                                                                          you should see the names of the programs that were left off list.

                                                                          it's comedy gold.

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                                                                          • Manowar
                                                                            jellyfish  
                                                                            • Dec 2003
                                                                            • 71528

                                                                            #38
                                                                            those MM stats are seriously funky, she's always done well for me on the same sort of traffic

                                                                            especially rebills, and it's not like her members area is sparce

                                                                            weird as hell.

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                                                                            • Marky333
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Jun 2006
                                                                              • 974

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Wish you good luck in the future.

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                                                                              • d-null
                                                                                . . .
                                                                                • Apr 2007
                                                                                • 13724

                                                                                #40
                                                                                always got to be an idiot or two that says "your traffic sucks"


                                                                                I'm seeing pretty much the same kind of things, and that is on mostly google search traffic, so with the "your traffic sucks" bs

                                                                                (and respect for some honest stats DJ)

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                                                                                • crockett
                                                                                  in a van by the river
                                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                                  • 76818

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by Davey Jones


                                                                                  Cant believe it either. All that traffic is being clicked from a blog post.

                                                                                  I don't know why the fuck she doesn't convert.

                                                                                  Is that direct hits to a tour or to a gallery? Some ccbill programs count hits to galleries in your stats, which totally screws up the stats.
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                                                                                  • d-null
                                                                                    . . .
                                                                                    • Apr 2007
                                                                                    • 13724

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by crockett
                                                                                    Is that direct hits to a tour or to a gallery? Some ccbill programs count hits to galleries in your stats, which totally screws up the stats.
                                                                                    realistically, all programs should count ALL unique hits you send them

                                                                                    but for most of the ones that really matter in his list, I think they only count hits to join pages

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                                                                                    • notoldschool
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Aug 2007
                                                                                      • 5687

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by Robbie
                                                                                      I'm finding that more and more surfers are using my TGP's to find new stuff, clicking to the tour to see if they really like it...and then instead of buying a membership (like they used to) they leave.

                                                                                      When that is happening to sites that always converted...I can only come up with one rational idea. They are using me to find what's hot and then are going to search the tubes for the content for free.

                                                                                      I have seen simiilar ratios in my stats for some very big companies that I have promoted for years and years. Can't sell shit on them now. Sending plenty of good, real traffic. But not seeing any conversions.

                                                                                      You can say "Your traffic sucks" until the cows come home. But every hit I send is a real human being clicking on a link that they are interested in. If it doesn't convert at the tour, then there is something happening.

                                                                                      My belief, from my years of experience, is that they are using us as a way to find the next site to search for that has the members area ripped on a tube.
                                                                                      I agree. Tube sites are fucking everyone. There is zero reason to join ANY paysite when you get an unlimited amount of 20 minute vids, and it doesnt matter it they are stolen or not.
                                                                                      No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture.
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                                                                                      • $hurik
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • May 2003
                                                                                        • 853

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        hit me up on icq, i might be able to pay you on pay per click basis so you can test your traffic with us

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                                                                                        • rowan
                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                          • Mar 2002
                                                                                          • 17393

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Are you sending to FHGs with any of those accounts? Is it possible they're using the "quick and dirty" method of requiring you to link to them via refer.ccbill.com (thus increasing your raw count)?

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                                                                                          • tabasco
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Jul 2006
                                                                                            • 2624

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Check out this shit from a sponser I used to 40 odd sales a month with to this. Get no reply to emails now to boot. Got a shitload of links to switch today.



                                                                                            Getting so fucking disillusioned with this business. Once some sponsers think they've got in you in their pocket...

                                                                                            Must be my traffic. :P
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                                                                                            • Miguel T
                                                                                              ♦ Web Developer ♦
                                                                                              • May 2005
                                                                                              • 12473

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Looks like it is tgp traffic... am I wrong?

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                                                                                              • Pretty_Lara
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Oct 2002
                                                                                                • 755

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                try us we cnvert better ;) anyway now all down ..but soon we thinking evruthing will be ok ;)
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                                                                                                • RayBonga
                                                                                                  too cool for highschool
                                                                                                  • Nov 2005
                                                                                                  • 12164

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  that's fucked up. ouch

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                                                                                                  • NY Jester
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Nov 2007
                                                                                                    • 1347

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Wow, I see some bad ratios but never that deep on CCBill sites.

                                                                                                    I don't buy the whole Tube excuse. I think that's a cop out - I think surfers are more savvy on porn and many look at more than one gallery or free site or whatever means of promotion you're using before they're interested enough in buying. Cookies may have a bigger place in it all than most give credit for. What is the average cookie life for CCBill programs?
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