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Old 09-04-2008, 11:46 PM   #101
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The largest growing population in the US is Latino. I am already that so I am not worried.
great, that explains it..btw latinos are going 80% for Obama..get ready for a Black Pres
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Old 09-04-2008, 11:51 PM   #102
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That is a fact. Look at how many registered Republicans there are compared to Democrats. There are more registered Democrats. When it comes time to vote more Republicans actually vote then Democrats. It is not hard to find the facts that support that. If you are as smart as you claim to be you should already know that is true. You can look it up yourself. It is not my job to do your homework for you.
Jesus christ you are a stupid fucking cunt.

The majority of elected officials in this country are Democrats, yet you still maintain that more republicans are voting on election day. So the reason we have so many Democrats in office, is because all of these Republicans voting for them.

Yeah, that makes perfect sense.

You are now on ignore you stupid fucking racist cunt.

And yes you are a fucking racist...not because you support McCain or because you don't believe the country will vote for Obama....but because you're willing to categorize an entire race of people as being hard working (your own) and another as being lazy and liking to live off the government.

Also, FWIW, you or your parents or grandparents CHOSE to come here. The ancestors of the black population in New Orleans didn't choose to come here. They were dragged here against their will and they were owned by other people.
Your family came here and were embraced by a community of their own with government programs to teach them to speak English and jobs where they could work and make enough money to support themselves and send money home.
The black underclass, after being freed, had to live through Jim Crow, were discriminated against for decades.........within the last 10 years (I can't remember the exact year) a federal judge had to force the schools here to desegregate, because they still hadn't done it. This is within the last 10 years!!!

So you can't possibly compare the cuban immigrant population in south Florida to the black underclass in the deep south. You and yours have been given way more opportunity than they have.

From now on you should really open your mouth only to insert a cock. Lucky for me this board has an ignore feature, so I don't have to read your stupid racist shit anymore.
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Old 09-04-2008, 11:53 PM   #103
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I agree that, for the most part, kids should be off limits. And I understand that he was pretty much pressured into going to the convention. Whether they meant to or not when he is introduced and the place gives him a standing ovation they are essentially approving of and endorsing him and his action.

Sex ed can't be left to be taught just by parents. You said it yourself, too many parents don't do a good enough job (or any job at all). If it were left just to parents there would be a large increase in teen and unwanted pregnancies not to count STDs. All you have to do is look at the parts of the country where abstinence only is taught and you will find those are the same parts of the country where they have the highest rates of teen pregnancy and teen transmitted STDs. The republican's don't like welfare, but if they take sex ed out of schools they are going to be helping to create a lot of welfare mothers because, like I said, most teen moms are not governor's daughters of Britney Spear's sister, they are typically poor or from lower income families.

People are going to screw. That is the reality. Biology always wins. Biology beats values, morals, peer pressure, religion and fear. Not every single person will, but 90%+ will give into those biological urges and if they have no real education you would see a huge increase in teen pregnancy. There are many experts that think that the abortion rate has dropped over the last 20 years because sex ed has become a common thing in schools so there are less and less unwanted pregnancies. It sounds find a good to leave it up to the parents, but many parents suck and leave their kids in the dark. If their parents are going to give them the tools to make good decisions with someone else needs to.

Also, I understand that McCain is not the oldest candidate and maybe he will be fine. But he has had melanoma, which is the most deadly form of skin cancer you can get, four times. His medical records are nearly 500 pages deep. The guy is not the picture of perfect health.

I think they cheered for him for all the heat he is taking. He is just a kid, and he has all of these people attacking him. He made a mistake and I think that everyone should lay off of him and Bristol Palin. I do not care what party you are from, kids should be off limits. Their parents are running for office, not them. The only problem I have with sex ed in school is that it is not always proper in what they teach. I have friends that are teachers and they say a lot of these kids do not have the first clue about sex and they are 13 and 14. Before you can take the class your parents have to sign a permission slip. Many parents don't sign it. It should not be left up to a school to teach anyone's children about sex 100 percent. The high schools here actually have day care at them. In reality that is not the schools job. There are a lot of piss poor parents out there.

Yes I know McCain had Melanoma, but he is free of it now. He recently had a check up. When you live here in AZ, they inform you of everything that he does.
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Old 09-04-2008, 11:55 PM   #104
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wow, no wonder you only do camshows..ur feeble minded.. in a box, good luck to you JANE B
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I think they cheered for him for all the heat he is taking. He is just a kid, and he has all of these people attacking him. He made a mistake and I think that everyone should lay off of him and Bristol Palin. I do not care what party you are from, kids should be off limits. Their parents are running for office, not them. The only problem I have with sex ed in school is that it is not always proper in what they teach. I have friends that are teachers and they say a lot of these kids do not have the first clue about sex and they are 13 and 14. Before you can take the class your parents have to sign a permission slip. Many parents don't sign it. It should not be left up to a school to teach anyone's children about sex 100 percent. The high schools here actually have day care at them. In reality that is not the schools job. There are a lot of piss poor parents out there.

Yes I know McCain had Melanoma, but he is free of it now. He recently had a check up. When you live here in AZ, they inform you of everything that he does.
FYI it was the McCain campaign that issued the statement from palin that her daughter was preggo. so they took it to the press.

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Jesus christ you are a stupid fucking cunt.

The majority of elected officials in this country are Democrats, yet you still maintain that more republicans are voting on election day. So the reason we have so many Democrats in office, is because all of these Republicans voting for them.

Yeah, that makes perfect sense.

You are now on ignore you stupid fucking racist cunt.

And yes you are a fucking racist...not because you support McCain or because you don't believe the country will vote for Obama....but because you're willing to categorize an entire race of people as being hard working (your own) and another as being lazy and liking to live off the government.

Also, FWIW, you or your parents or grandparents CHOSE to come here. The ancestors of the black population in New Orleans didn't choose to come here. They were dragged here against their will and they were owned by other people.
Your family came here and were embraced by a community of their own with government programs to teach them to speak English and jobs where they could work and make enough money to support themselves and send money home.
The black underclass, after being freed, had to live through Jim Crow, were discriminated against for decades.........within the last 10 years (I can't remember the exact year) a federal judge had to force the schools here to desegregate, because they still hadn't done it. This is within the last 10 years!!!

So you can't possibly compare the cuban immigrant population in south Florida to the black underclass in the deep south. You and yours have been given way more topportunity han they have.

From now on you should really open your mouth only to insert a cock. Lucky for me this board has an ignore feature, so I don't have to read your stupid racist shit anymore.

You are the dumb cunt. I am talking about registered voters dumbass. If you would have read what we were talking about, you would know that. You should stop just jumping into threads without reading them, you make yourself look like an idiot.

I am not a racist. I was talking about New Orleans not the whole black population. Perhaps instead of posting on here you should learn how to read. So far you have done a piss poor job of reading.

Also hate to break it to you but every black person in this country or New Orleans are not all ancestors to slaves. That is a racist comment. You must not know your history because the blacks that were slaves were sold by their own people. You can not blame that on any other race. My grandparents are from Europe. Italy and Spain to be exact. They already spoke English. I am not sure where you get this shit from that people from Cuba and other countries come here without knowing any English. Plenty speak English when they get here.

How can you say that black underclass people in the south are not given as much as a Cuban immigrant? Being born in the US is a better opportunity then coming here as an immigrant.

I highly suggest you put a cock in your mouth instead of posting. You have no clue what the fuck you are talking about. If anyone onhere is a racist it is you. You like to pick on the Cubans and immigrants.

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I do not only do camshows. Once again you have no clue what you are talking about. Good luck to you sir. You need it more then me.

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FYI it was the McCain campaign that issued the statement from palin that her daughter was preggo. so they took it to the press.
Yes they did announce it. They really had no choice after all the morons that were trying to say Palin's son was really her daughters. I think they would have announced it at a later date if they had a choice.
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Old 09-05-2008, 12:16 AM   #109
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Yes they did announce it. They really had no choice after all the morons that were trying to say Palin's son was really her daughters. I think they would have announced it at a later date if they had a choice.
After the secret wedding that was to be held after the convention. OK well no way in hell they could have kept it secret but well the rest stands.
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Yes they did announce it. They really had no choice after all the morons that were trying to say Palin's son was really her daughters. I think they would have announced it at a later date if they had a choice.
you mean sarah couldnt just show proof trig was hers to stop the rumor mill and make them look very stupid?
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you mean sarah couldnt just show proof trig was hers to stop the rumor mill and make them look very stupid?
Honestly a preggo teen distracts better. It is not like both rumors were in full tilt.
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Yes they did announce it. They really had no choice after all the morons that were trying to say Palin's son was really her daughters. I think they would have announced it at a later date if they had a choice.
Once question for you do you honestly believe Palin is qualified to be vp and a skip away from being president?
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Once question for you do you honestly believe Palin is qualified to be vp and a skip away from being president?
Frankly why do people assume McCain will die in office? I really do not think Biden would make a good president if Obama dies.
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Frankly why is everyone so sure McCain will die in office? I really do not think Biden would make a good president if Obama dies.
No thats not the question i asked you. Do you fell that Palin is qualified to be Vice President of our country?
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No thats not the question i asked you. Do you fell that Palin is qualified to be Vice President of our country?
In all honesty no. I never said she would make a good president. Then again I don't think McCain will die anytime soon, so I am not worried about it.
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you mean sarah couldnt just show proof trig was hers to stop the rumor mill and make them look very stupid?
Yeah the moral outrage about the ridiculous rumors flying around out there.

I wonder where these people were when the "Obama is a Muslim" rumors were out in full force? I bet they were screaming at the top of their lungs that he wasn't and that this sort of stuff has no place in our politics weren't they?

NOT.

At least Obama had the decency to step up and say these type of things have no place in our politics, families are off limits, and that he would fire any member of his staff who spoke about these things to the press.

Shame that Mr Honor and Valor McBush hasn't said or done anything of the sort when it comes to the rumors about Obama.
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Frankly why do people assume McCain will die in office? I really do not think Biden would make a good president if Obama dies.
I worry about relatives that age so it would be natural to add the possible president into the same category. Well non of my relatives have had skin cancer 4 times though. Nor were they tortured for years.

So really it is a valid concern. I do not think people assume he will die. Just there are factors that are stacked against him. Not to mention that you brought up Reagan, and many say he was not all there during his entire term.
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In all honesty no. I never said she would make a good president. Then again I don't think McCain will die anytime soon, so I am not worried about it.



So since we both agree she isn't qualified why was she picked to be Mccain's VP. You know why i know why and hopefully America knows why. You have idiots on both sides talking stupid shit. Case being if she didn't let them use her as a political pawn she or her family would not be going threw the things they are going threw now. She wanted the spot light she got it. Not saying what folks are saying is right but shit comes with the territory.
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So since we both agree she isn't qualified why was she picked to be Mccain's VP. You know why i know why and hopefully America knows why. You have idiots on both sides talking stupid shit. Case being if she didn't let them use her as a political pawn she or her family would not be going threw the things they are going threw now. She wanted the spot light she got it. Not saying what folks are saying is right but shit comes with the territory.
Please tell me why you think why?

I am really starting to think her nomination is purely about oil and ANWAR. Afterall she knows Alaska and knows there is plenty of oil there.
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you mean sarah couldnt just show proof trig was hers to stop the rumor mill and make them look very stupid?
why should she have to prove some thing like that? I would tell them to go fuck themselves in a politically correct way of course
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So since we both agree she isn't qualified why was she picked to be Mccain's VP. You know why i know why and hopefully America knows why. You have idiots on both sides talking stupid shit. Case being if she didn't let them use her as a political pawn she or her family would not be going threw the things they are going threw now. She wanted the spot light she got it. Not saying what folks are saying is right but shit comes with the territory.

I think both sides picked shitty VP's. Out of all the people they could have picked I am not sure why they picked the two they did. I am pretty sure why people think McCain picked Palin, not sure why Obama picked Biden.

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I am really starting to think her nomination is purely about oil and ANWAR. Afterall she knows Alaska and knows there is plenty of oil there.
Well first off im sure we all can agree she was pulled in to get the Hillary voters who are pissed that Obama didn't take Hillary for VP. She was also pulled in to reel in the evangelical voters who have gone astray.

its about oil and natural gas. Palin signed House Bill 3001 allowing Trans Canada to start developing a 1,715-mile natural gas pipeline. The deal is not closed yet .The AGIA license will be issued in 90 days. Also She is threating to sue Alaska if they make polar bears a endangered species. If polar bears a endangered species it will be ruff for them to get the pipeline. I keep hearing here husband works for BP but i cant find out what he does.

As for the war issue oh she war happy all right. But in her mind its a religious war. I have to go back and find the clips were she is telling people at her church god speaks to her and wants us to win the war and drill for oil. That did me in right there i dint need to hear
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Now im just trying to figure out what other reason Mcain picked Palin. It cant be because she has a lobbyist firm trying to get $27 million in federal earmarks. We all Mccain is not about that. It cant be for the reason that she is more qualified then say Rudy,Nick or even Charlie Christ. It cant be because she is under investigation for abuse of power cause well that would be a flawed game plan. Things that make you go hum....
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I think both sides picked shitty VP's. Out of all the people they could have picked I am not sure why they picked the two they did. I am pretty sure why people think McCain picked Palin, not sure why Obama picked Biden.
Obama picked Biden because the two major criticisms of Obama have been that he has no experience and that he had no knowledge of foreign affairs. Biden is the chair for the Senate committee on foreign relations. He has more foreign policy experience than all of the candidates put together. His experience in that area helps take some of the criticism off of Obama. He also has roots in Pennsylvania and has a great track record with blue collar voters so he can help Obama in those areas. He is also pretty clean as far as skeletons in his closet. He has been around for about 30 years, if there was a lot of dirt on him it would have come out by now so the republicans have little to attack him on.

Were there better candidates out there for Obama? Maybe, but I think he did a pretty good job considering what he needed.
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Obama picked Biden because the two major criticisms of Obama have been that he has no experience and that he had no knowledge of foreign affairs. Biden is the chair for the Senate committee on foreign relations. He has more foreign policy experience than all of the candidates put together. His experience in that area helps take some of the criticism off of Obama. He also has roots in Pennsylvania and has a great track record with blue collar voters so he can help Obama in those areas. He is also pretty clean as far as skeletons in his closet. He has been around for about 30 years, if there was a lot of dirt on him it would have come out by now so the republicans have little to attack him on.

Were there better candidates out there for Obama? Maybe, but I think he did a pretty good job considering what he needed.
You know i do tilt my hat to Obama he could of done the politically correct thing and took Hillary as vp. That would of sealed the deal right there. But he did the smart thing and took Biden...
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Old 09-05-2008, 01:45 AM   #133
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I think they cheered for him for all the heat he is taking. He is just a kid, and he has all of these people attacking him. He made a mistake and I think that everyone should lay off of him and Bristol Palin. I do not care what party you are from, kids should be off limits. Their parents are running for office, not them. The only problem I have with sex ed in school is that it is not always proper in what they teach. I have friends that are teachers and they say a lot of these kids do not have the first clue about sex and they are 13 and 14. Before you can take the class your parents have to sign a permission slip. Many parents don't sign it. It should not be left up to a school to teach anyone's children about sex 100 percent. The high schools here actually have day care at them. In reality that is not the schools job. There are a lot of piss poor parents out there.

Yes I know McCain had Melanoma, but he is free of it now. He recently had a check up. When you live here in AZ, they inform you of everything that he does.
I am with you when I say that I feel for you. This kid made a mistake (well, I guess both he and Palin's daughter made the mistake together) and all of a sudden they were thrust into the national spotlight. Tell me this. I also agree that, for the most part they should be off limits. But, when your policies will have effect on families you should be required to show how your policy has effected your family. If your policy is to teach abstinence only and tell kids they are to wait until marriage to have sex, it should be brought to people's attention that your own daughter is knocked up at 17 and maybe your policy has a flaw. Should the kids be a tool of the campaign? No. But I think it is fair to point out your policy and how it has effected your family.

Maybe if there was more sex ed in schools there would be less need for daycare in those same schools.
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You know i do tilt my hat to Obama he could of done the politically correct thing and took Hillary as vp. That would of sealed the deal right there. But he did the smart thing and took Biden...
I think there was extreme pressure on him to take Hilary, but I am one of those people that think she was a bad choice. She comes with a ton of baggage and her presence alone would have activated the far right. As it was, it took McCain's hail mary pass to activate them. I think the country might be ready for a black president and they might be ready for a women, but I don't think they are ready for both on the same ticket.

Maybe they would have run away with it, but I actually think she would have done him more harm than good and could have cost him more votes than she was going to help him bring in.
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I think there was extreme pressure on him to take Hilary, but I am one of those people that think she was a bad choice. She comes with a ton of baggage and her presence alone would have activated the far right. As it was, it took McCain's hail mary pass to activate them. I think the country might be ready for a black president and they might be ready for a women, but I don't think they are ready for both on the same ticket.

Maybe they would have run away with it, but I actually think she would have done him more harm than good and could have cost him more votes than she was going to help him bring in.
Well ya and honestly there is a snowballs chance in hell that Palin will steal what would of been a Hillary vote.
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Frankly why do people assume McCain will die in office? I really do not think Biden would make a good president if Obama dies.
Obama is young and in good health. If he dies it would most likely either be a freak thing or an assassination. The chance of either of those things happening is very slim. McCain is old. The average live expectancy is around 77 years old. When you factor in the beating his body has taken and his four bouts with cancer he is not the picture of health. Maybe he will be find and maybe he will live to be 98, but you have to admit when you look at both VPs McCain's is the one that is much more likely to find herself as president because of something happening to the president.
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Well ya and honestly there is a snowballs chance in hell that Palin will steal what would of been a Hillary vote.
Agreed. There are a small number of Hilary supporters that can't get over themselves and are just looking for a reason to vote for McCain and Palin will give it to them. But most of them have already said they will vote for Obama and Hilary has calmed a lot of the remaining ones down so you have to assume at the end of the day they will vote for Obama (or just not vote) but they won't vote for someone who basically stands for everything they oppose. When she was introduced she said that Hilary left 18 million cracks in the glass ceiling. If they think 18 million people will vote for her because she is a woman they got another thing coming. Women tend to not vote for other women so they aren't going to vote for her just because she is a mom and so are they.
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"McCane and Pailen"

yes, people can be that stupid....

Apparently, the ability to spell EITHER of the candidate?s names at all is not important for some....

The illiterate seem to dominate the Republican Party...
haha are you serious? its clear hes fucking around
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what a great speech
You know you're trying way too hard right?

You're trying to convince yourself that Obama won't make it....This is the reason why you post in NUMEROUS threads about Obama being done and then start threads about it on top of that...

You and I both know what's up....If one spends a whole lot of time trying to find reasons why someone will fail, it's because they're scared that they will succeed...

Therefore your rhetoric is transparent.....

And let me re-iterate....NOTHING is wrong with supporting your candidate...But it's CLEAR that you're trying way too hard to convince yourself of something else....

And before you yap off at the mouth about how you're not doing it, be aware that the search function is working.....And that applies to both your posts and mine.
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I would rather have her then Biden. Fuck even he stated he did not think Barack was experienced enough to be president.
You show how truly dumb you are. Typical Republican drone has nothing of subastance to add other than ok lets go. LOL...you wont be able to whore yourself out if Palin wins. How you like them apples?
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What opportunities are given to latino immigrants that are not given to negroes?
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You show how truly dumb you are. Typical Republican drone has nothing of subastance to add other than ok lets go. LOL...you wont be able to whore yourself out if Palin wins. How you like them apples?
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The 1st part, is a pretty well known fact baddog. Seriously.

He also wrote both of his books, he didn't use a ghost writer. He's a very talented writer and speaker.
I'm not saying he writes every single line he speaks on the stump, but the vast majority of what he says, he penned himself.

I could look it up but I'm a little tired right now. If you don't believe me you can google it man.

He wasn't implying it was Bush's speech....he was replying to someone who said McCain's speech was "genuine" while Obama is just reciting shit someone else wrote.

The opposite is actually true. McCain's words are written by a former Bush speechwriter, while Obama writes most of his own.

I agree with the fact that Obama is a very talented speaker and writer, but I disagree with you about his speech as it's a known fact that his speech writer is Jon Favreau
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I really wish the McCain camp would mention that he was a POW more. I had no idea and i don't feel that I have been beaten over the head with it enough.
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Pretty bad when all the crowd has to chant is "U-S-A" between statements. Watching all that definitely lowered my intelligence.
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other than his story moment the speech was awful. i mean really awful. pass the crack pipe if you think that was good. Palin his VP is out performing him.
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Mccain speaks like my slow excited uncle after he seen some titties. He has no charisma and is a Bush clone. The protests and drama at the RNC are showing what Americans want.

Total square douchebag.

I personally don't believe either of them are right for it. However think about this. Do you want the president in a year or so to be an inexperienced vp just because she has a pussy and McCain wants the women votes. She's a heart attack or a blood clot away from being your commander in chief. Who wants her answering that 3am phone when it rings? Certainly not me.

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