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wootpr0n · 08-25-2008, 12:40 AM

I am currently offering free consultations for Flash Media Server implementations.

It is a software package that controls your video streaming.

All videos are converted to FLV format and are then streamed to your users using a Flash player. The end result: absolutely no piracy or other copying of your videos. It is impossible to copy the video because no file is saved to the hard disk, and it is impossible to copy the video with a stream ripper.

The advantages are clear:
-excellent video quality with a major reduction in bandwidth usage
-true streaming video (users can jump to any part of the video without having to wait for the video to load)
-proprietary format and unique memory buffer prevents the video data from being recorded to the hard drive and prevents all stream rippers from working
-fully scalable function makes it easy to add additional servers as needed
-seamless operation regardless of the number of servers. No longer is there a need to manually store your videos across different servers. Flash Media Server automatically copies the videos across servers based upon their demand. When you add a video, you add it to the "Media Server", so you no longer have to pick a specific server and link your player to it.

If you are interested in learning more, send me an e-mail.

DWB · 08-25-2008, 01:51 AM

Probably one of the most important posts on GFY in ages, and nobody cares to read the thread or post in it.

HomerSimpson · 08-25-2008, 02:27 AM

Really good stuff.

(PS: I have no experience with Flash Media Server but I can make flash video player being able to jump to any part of the video without expensive flash media server. Ideal for smaller sites or for the lower budget sites like smaller tube sites or flv promo stuff for programs)

seeandsee · 08-25-2008, 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wootpr0n

I am currently offering free consultations for Flash Media Server implementations.

It is a software package that controls your video streaming.

All videos are converted to FLV format and are then streamed to your users using a Flash player. The end result: absolutely no piracy or other copying of your videos. It is impossible to copy the video because no file is saved to the hard disk, and it is impossible to copy the video with a stream ripper.

The advantages are clear:
-excellent video quality with a major reduction in bandwidth usage
-true streaming video (users can jump to any part of the video without having to wait for the video to load)
-proprietary format and unique memory buffer prevents the video data from being recorded to the hard drive and prevents all stream rippers from working
-fully scalable function makes it easy to add additional servers as needed
-seamless operation regardless of the number of servers. No longer is there a need to manually store your videos across different servers. Flash Media Server automatically copies the videos across servers based upon their demand. When you add a video, you add it to the "Media Server", so you no longer have to pick a specific server and link your player to it.

If you are interested in learning more, send me an e-mail.

At end, if they want to steal, they will record screen

Thurbs · 08-25-2008, 03:57 AM

id like to talk to u indepth

DatingGameExpert · 08-25-2008, 04:05 AM

Bump for this.

cess · 08-25-2008, 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by seeandsee

At end, if they want to steal, they will record screen

I was thinking the same thing. Although I doubt hardly anyone would go to that trouble sense everyone probably won't use this protection on their sites.

08-25-2008, 05:08 AM

sounds great. here's a bump

Spudstr · 08-25-2008, 05:40 AM

Adobe Flash media server, and also Wowza Media Server both do this. since both do real streams they prevent the entire video being downloaded unless of course someone has some sort of a capture utility that can record a stream.

This isn't new technology we've been doing this for over a year for people and adobe flash media has been around longer than that.

tony286 · 08-25-2008, 09:11 AM

What are the start up costs for a mom pop? Topping out say at 500 members.

BrianL · 08-25-2008, 09:18 AM

The technology is something called RTMPE and it actually is available from any provider who is offering the latest flash streaming protocols. We have been offering at Cavecreek for some time and you can view samples of it on the Cave Creek CDN page.

http://www.cavecreek.com/HD-Flash-CDN.php

cherrylula · 08-25-2008, 09:28 AM

hargh thar she blows

Spudstr · 08-25-2008, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by tony404

What are the start up costs for a mom pop? Topping out say at 500 members.

wowza = 1k
adobe flash media = 4kish

Just make sure you have a filer with enough fast disks to support the concurrent streams that you want, its HELL on disk IO.

a 4x whatever drive 15k sas system will support about 200Mbps in raid 5, 400ish in raid10/0 and support about 500-600 streams if you have more spindles you can use more bw and more streams.

mynameisjim · 08-25-2008, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by seeandsee

At end, if they want to steal, they will record screen

While I agree, you could also say the same things about the locks on your front door. If someone wants to break in, they can just kick your door in.

You'll never stop piracy, but you have to make it so the average guy doesn't know how to do it or doesn't feel like going through the hassle.

I think streaming is a REAL solution. There will be some pain during the transition, but in the end it will be worth it.

To the topic creator, it would be nice you put up a website with details, price points, ect. Things like hardware requirements, different costs depending on the number of members and things like that.

tiger · 08-25-2008, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by seeandsee

At end, if they want to steal, they will record screen

The object is not to completely prevent theft that is impossible. The idea is to make it hard enough that it is not worth the time time and effort or is just to difficult for your average user.

V_RocKs · 08-25-2008, 11:04 AM

One of the top reasons surfers buy memberships and stay members is they are not afraid that they cannot see the videos when their membership expires... When you tell them stream only they don't even buy.

This will never ever change because someone like Brazzers will ALWAYS offer downloads with no DRM!

TheDoc · 08-25-2008, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs

One of the top reasons surfers buy memberships and stay members is they are not afraid that they cannot see the videos when their membership expires... When you tell them stream only they don't even buy.

This will never ever change because someone like Brazzers will ALWAYS offer downloads with no DRM!

You can offer DRM downloads, un-restricted, that still can be shut off, if uploaded or have promos/signup offers appear. The single VOD sites dwarf an entire affiliate program, the biggest of them.

Come on VRocks, I figured you would be way on top of this income stream more.

tony286 · 08-25-2008, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mynameisjim

While I agree, you could also say the same things about the locks on your front door. If someone wants to break in, they can just kick your door in.

You'll never stop piracy, but you have to make it so the average guy doesn't know how to do it or doesn't feel like going through the hassle.

I think streaming is a REAL solution. There will be some pain during the transition, but in the end it will be worth it.

To the topic creator, it would be nice you put up a website with details, price points, ect. Things like hardware requirements, different costs depending on the number of members and things like that.

Its like a old boss of mine used to say locks dont keep professional thieves out.There are to keep honest people honest.

CurrentlySober · 08-25-2008, 02:34 PM

There is only ONE " Guaranteed Anti-Piracy Solution "

DONT UPLOAD YOUR CONTENT TO THE NET !

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE · 08-25-2008, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThatGuyInTheCorner

There is only ONE " Guaranteed Anti-Piracy Solution "

DONT UPLOAD YOUR CONTENT TO THE NET !

Marcus Aurelius · 08-25-2008, 05:50 PM

Excellent post. Bump for this.

wootpr0n · 08-25-2008, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Clark

If you don't upload content to the net, then they will pirate your DVDs!

DVDs have practically no protection.

wootpr0n · 08-25-2008, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seeandsee

At end, if they want to steal, they will record screen

Can't record the screen with a good enough quality on most computers. You will end up with a terrible frame rate.

wootpr0n · 08-25-2008, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thurbs - NichedSites

id like to talk to u indepth

Okay, lets talk.

wootpr0n · 08-25-2008, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404

What are the start up costs for a mom pop? Topping out say at 500 members.

How many videos do you have?
What is the average length of the video?
What is the bitrate of the video + audio?
How many videos does an average user watch per month?

wootpr0n · 08-25-2008, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

One of the top reasons surfers buy memberships and stay members is they are not afraid that they cannot see the videos when their membership expires... When you tell them stream only they don't even buy.

This will never ever change because someone like Brazzers will ALWAYS offer downloads with no DRM!

Brazzers is very good at enforcing their copyrights. They do it in 2 ways:
-DMCA the hell out of anybody who posts their videos
-Partner with illegal tube sites who become their affiliates. Illegal tube sites don't want to lose a major revenue source, so they make sure that nobody uploads Brazzers content. Tube sites continue to function with your content next to Brazzers ads.

I suggest that you offer streaming video and then only allow people to download video after they have had a membership for 3 months or something. Most people who sign up in order to pirate your content will be gone by then.

YellowDude · 08-25-2008, 07:14 PM

Can you give a price indication?

slapass · 08-25-2008, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seeandsee

At end, if they want to steal, they will record screen

I love this complaint -

1. 99% of your surfers will not bother.
2. The current solution of doing nothing is not working.
3. It is just that much easier to prove copyright infringement if they did that.

4. the first sites to do this might have exclusive content a lot longer then other sites and thus a competitive advantage

slapass · 08-25-2008, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

One of the top reasons surfers buy memberships and stay members is they are not afraid that they cannot see the videos when their membership expires... When you tell them stream only they don't even buy.

This will never ever change because someone like Brazzers will ALWAYS offer downloads with no DRM!

Is that true? I thought they were jonesing on a particular set and want to see more.

fatfoo · 08-25-2008, 07:50 PM

good solution, bump

onno · 08-25-2008, 10:37 PM

i think someone is trying to make some quick buck$$ from some poor scare guys...

Robbie · 08-25-2008, 10:45 PM

I bought Adobe Flash Server a couple of months ago and started streaming h264's with rtmpe encryption. Every new update that I put up since that time has remained EXCLUSIVE to our members area. Just like it's supposed to. And to make it that much sweeter...we are now seeing a rise in sales.

Turns out that when you have an exclusive solo girl site and you shoot your own stuff...the fans of the site want to see the newest updates and if they can't find it on a tube 1 hour after you release it...they join. Also helps that we have a dynamic tour that reflects the members area updates as they happen. It's a nice "one-two" punch

Aussie Rebel · 08-25-2008, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wootpr0n

Brazzers is very good at enforcing their copyrights.

Funniest post I've read all day

cem · 08-26-2008, 02:10 AM

I still have a copy of fms, i wonder if they allow me to sell it as i dont use it anymore.

munki · 08-26-2008, 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

I bought Adobe Flash Server a couple of months ago and started streaming h264's with rtmpe encryption. Every new update that I put up since that time has remained EXCLUSIVE to our members area. Just like it's supposed to. And to make it that much sweeter...we are now seeing a rise in sales.

Turns out that when you have an exclusive solo girl site and you shoot your own stuff...the fans of the site want to see the newest updates and if they can't find it on a tube 1 hour after you release it...they join. Also helps that we have a dynamic tour that reflects the members area updates as they happen. It's a nice "one-two" punch

I've been doing a ton of research into various setups, and would love to check yours out at some point if you wouldn't mind...

08-26-2008, 03:11 AM

bump bump

08-25-2008, 12:40 AM	#1
wootpr0n Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 250	Guaranteed Anti-Piracy Solution I am currently offering free consultations for Flash Media Server implementations. It is a software package that controls your video streaming. All videos are converted to FLV format and are then streamed to your users using a Flash player. The end result: absolutely no piracy or other copying of your videos. It is impossible to copy the video because no file is saved to the hard disk, and it is impossible to copy the video with a stream ripper. The advantages are clear: -excellent video quality with a major reduction in bandwidth usage -true streaming video (users can jump to any part of the video without having to wait for the video to load) -proprietary format and unique memory buffer prevents the video data from being recorded to the hard drive and prevents all stream rippers from working -fully scalable function makes it easy to add additional servers as needed -seamless operation regardless of the number of servers. No longer is there a need to manually store your videos across different servers. Flash Media Server automatically copies the videos across servers based upon their demand. When you add a video, you add it to the "Media Server", so you no longer have to pick a specific server and link your player to it. If you are interested in learning more, send me an e-mail. __________________ Sig too big http://www.gofuckyourself.com/gfy_faqs.html Want to use a large banner in your sig??? Contact Eric about getting on as an advertiser - eric AT adult.com

08-25-2008, 02:27 AM	#3
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08-25-2008, 05:40 AM	#9
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08-25-2008, 09:18 AM	#11
BrianL Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Boston Posts: 50	The technology is something called RTMPE and it actually is available from any provider who is offering the latest flash streaming protocols. We have been offering at Cavecreek for some time and you can view samples of it on the Cave Creek CDN page. http://www.cavecreek.com/HD-Flash-CDN.php __________________ Brian L Cave Creek Streaming and CDN ICQ - 6124460 [email protected]

08-25-2008, 02:34 PM	#19
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08-25-2008, 01:51 AM	#2
DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	Probably one of the most important posts on GFY in ages, and nobody cares to read the thread or post in it.

08-25-2008, 03:57 AM	#5
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08-25-2008, 04:05 AM	#6
DatingGameExpert Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: UK Posts: 1,089	Bump for this.

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Gasper Guest Posts: n/a	sounds great. here's a bump

08-25-2008, 09:11 AM	#10
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	What are the start up costs for a mom pop? Topping out say at 500 members.

08-25-2008, 09:28 AM	#12
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	hargh thar she blows

08-25-2008, 11:04 AM	#16
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,422	One of the top reasons surfers buy memberships and stay members is they are not afraid that they cannot see the videos when their membership expires... When you tell them stream only they don't even buy. This will never ever change because someone like Brazzers will ALWAYS offer downloads with no DRM!

08-25-2008, 05:50 PM	#21
Marcus Aurelius No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 14,809	Excellent post. Bump for this.

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Robbie Leaner, Meaner, Faster Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 20,959	I bought Adobe Flash Server a couple of months ago and started streaming h264's with rtmpe encryption. Every new update that I put up since that time has remained EXCLUSIVE to our members area. Just like it's supposed to. And to make it that much sweeter...we are now seeing a rise in sales. Turns out that when you have an exclusive solo girl site and you shoot your own stuff...the fans of the site want to see the newest updates and if they can't find it on a tube 1 hour after you release it...they join. Also helps that we have a dynamic tour that reflects the members area updates as they happen. It's a nice "one-two" punch __________________ -Robbie ClaudiaMarie.Com

08-26-2008, 02:10 AM	#34
cem Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 415	I still have a copy of fms, i wonder if they allow me to sell it as i dont use it anymore.