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wootpr0n 08-25-2008 12:40 AM

Guaranteed Anti-Piracy Solution
 
I am currently offering free consultations for Flash Media Server implementations.

It is a software package that controls your video streaming.

All videos are converted to FLV format and are then streamed to your users using a Flash player. The end result: absolutely no piracy or other copying of your videos. It is impossible to copy the video because no file is saved to the hard disk, and it is impossible to copy the video with a stream ripper.

The advantages are clear:
-excellent video quality with a major reduction in bandwidth usage
-true streaming video (users can jump to any part of the video without having to wait for the video to load)
-proprietary format and unique memory buffer prevents the video data from being recorded to the hard drive and prevents all stream rippers from working
-fully scalable function makes it easy to add additional servers as needed
-seamless operation regardless of the number of servers. No longer is there a need to manually store your videos across different servers. Flash Media Server automatically copies the videos across servers based upon their demand. When you add a video, you add it to the "Media Server", so you no longer have to pick a specific server and link your player to it.


If you are interested in learning more, send me an e-mail.

DWB 08-25-2008 01:51 AM

Probably one of the most important posts on GFY in ages, and nobody cares to read the thread or post in it.

HomerSimpson 08-25-2008 02:27 AM

Really good stuff.


(PS: I have no experience with Flash Media Server but I can make flash video player being able to jump to any part of the video without expensive flash media server. Ideal for smaller sites or for the lower budget sites like smaller tube sites or flv promo stuff for programs)

seeandsee 08-25-2008 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wootpr0n (Post 14658099)
I am currently offering free consultations for Flash Media Server implementations.

It is a software package that controls your video streaming.

All videos are converted to FLV format and are then streamed to your users using a Flash player. The end result: absolutely no piracy or other copying of your videos. It is impossible to copy the video because no file is saved to the hard disk, and it is impossible to copy the video with a stream ripper.

The advantages are clear:
-excellent video quality with a major reduction in bandwidth usage
-true streaming video (users can jump to any part of the video without having to wait for the video to load)
-proprietary format and unique memory buffer prevents the video data from being recorded to the hard drive and prevents all stream rippers from working
-fully scalable function makes it easy to add additional servers as needed
-seamless operation regardless of the number of servers. No longer is there a need to manually store your videos across different servers. Flash Media Server automatically copies the videos across servers based upon their demand. When you add a video, you add it to the "Media Server", so you no longer have to pick a specific server and link your player to it.


If you are interested in learning more, send me an e-mail.

At end, if they want to steal, they will record screen

Thurbs 08-25-2008 03:57 AM

id like to talk to u indepth

DatingGameExpert 08-25-2008 04:05 AM

Bump for this.

cess 08-25-2008 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seeandsee (Post 14658378)
At end, if they want to steal, they will record screen

I was thinking the same thing. Although I doubt hardly anyone would go to that trouble sense everyone probably won't use this protection on their sites.

Gasper 08-25-2008 05:08 AM

sounds great. here's a bump

Spudstr 08-25-2008 05:40 AM

Adobe Flash media server, and also Wowza Media Server both do this. since both do real streams they prevent the entire video being downloaded unless of course someone has some sort of a capture utility that can record a stream.

This isn't new technology we've been doing this for over a year for people and adobe flash media has been around longer than that.

tony286 08-25-2008 09:11 AM

What are the start up costs for a mom pop? Topping out say at 500 members.

BrianL 08-25-2008 09:18 AM

The technology is something called RTMPE and it actually is available from any provider who is offering the latest flash streaming protocols. We have been offering at Cavecreek for some time and you can view samples of it on the Cave Creek CDN page.

http://www.cavecreek.com/HD-Flash-CDN.php

cherrylula 08-25-2008 09:28 AM

hargh thar she blows

Spudstr 08-25-2008 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14659874)
What are the start up costs for a mom pop? Topping out say at 500 members.


wowza = 1k
adobe flash media = 4kish

Just make sure you have a filer with enough fast disks to support the concurrent streams that you want, its HELL on disk IO.

a 4x whatever drive 15k sas system will support about 200Mbps in raid 5, 400ish in raid10/0 and support about 500-600 streams if you have more spindles you can use more bw and more streams.

mynameisjim 08-25-2008 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seeandsee (Post 14658378)
At end, if they want to steal, they will record screen

While I agree, you could also say the same things about the locks on your front door. If someone wants to break in, they can just kick your door in.

You'll never stop piracy, but you have to make it so the average guy doesn't know how to do it or doesn't feel like going through the hassle.

I think streaming is a REAL solution. There will be some pain during the transition, but in the end it will be worth it.

To the topic creator, it would be nice you put up a website with details, price points, ect. Things like hardware requirements, different costs depending on the number of members and things like that.

tiger 08-25-2008 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seeandsee (Post 14658378)
At end, if they want to steal, they will record screen

The object is not to completely prevent theft that is impossible. The idea is to make it hard enough that it is not worth the time time and effort or is just to difficult for your average user.

V_RocKs 08-25-2008 11:04 AM

One of the top reasons surfers buy memberships and stay members is they are not afraid that they cannot see the videos when their membership expires... When you tell them stream only they don't even buy.

This will never ever change because someone like Brazzers will ALWAYS offer downloads with no DRM!

TheDoc 08-25-2008 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 14660468)
One of the top reasons surfers buy memberships and stay members is they are not afraid that they cannot see the videos when their membership expires... When you tell them stream only they don't even buy.

This will never ever change because someone like Brazzers will ALWAYS offer downloads with no DRM!

You can offer DRM downloads, un-restricted, that still can be shut off, if uploaded or have promos/signup offers appear. The single VOD sites dwarf an entire affiliate program, the biggest of them.

Come on VRocks, I figured you would be way on top of this income stream more.

tony286 08-25-2008 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mynameisjim (Post 14660287)
While I agree, you could also say the same things about the locks on your front door. If someone wants to break in, they can just kick your door in.

You'll never stop piracy, but you have to make it so the average guy doesn't know how to do it or doesn't feel like going through the hassle.

I think streaming is a REAL solution. There will be some pain during the transition, but in the end it will be worth it.

To the topic creator, it would be nice you put up a website with details, price points, ect. Things like hardware requirements, different costs depending on the number of members and things like that.

Its like a old boss of mine used to say locks dont keep professional thieves out.There are to keep honest people honest.

CurrentlySober 08-25-2008 02:34 PM

There is only ONE " Guaranteed Anti-Piracy Solution "

DONT UPLOAD YOUR CONTENT TO THE NET !

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE 08-25-2008 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThatGuyInTheCorner (Post 14661905)
There is only ONE " Guaranteed Anti-Piracy Solution "

DONT UPLOAD YOUR CONTENT TO THE NET !

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Marcus Aurelius 08-25-2008 05:50 PM

Excellent post. Bump for this.

wootpr0n 08-25-2008 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Clark (Post 14662879)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

If you don't upload content to the net, then they will pirate your DVDs!

DVDs have practically no protection.

wootpr0n 08-25-2008 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seeandsee (Post 14658378)
At end, if they want to steal, they will record screen

Can't record the screen with a good enough quality on most computers. You will end up with a terrible frame rate.

wootpr0n 08-25-2008 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thurbs - NichedSites (Post 14658658)
id like to talk to u indepth

Okay, lets talk.

wootpr0n 08-25-2008 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14659874)
What are the start up costs for a mom pop? Topping out say at 500 members.

How many videos do you have?
What is the average length of the video?
What is the bitrate of the video + audio?
How many videos does an average user watch per month?

wootpr0n 08-25-2008 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 14660468)
One of the top reasons surfers buy memberships and stay members is they are not afraid that they cannot see the videos when their membership expires... When you tell them stream only they don't even buy.

This will never ever change because someone like Brazzers will ALWAYS offer downloads with no DRM!

Brazzers is very good at enforcing their copyrights. They do it in 2 ways:
-DMCA the hell out of anybody who posts their videos
-Partner with illegal tube sites who become their affiliates. Illegal tube sites don't want to lose a major revenue source, so they make sure that nobody uploads Brazzers content. Tube sites continue to function with your content next to Brazzers ads.

I suggest that you offer streaming video and then only allow people to download video after they have had a membership for 3 months or something. Most people who sign up in order to pirate your content will be gone by then.

YellowDude 08-25-2008 07:14 PM

Can you give a price indication?

slapass 08-25-2008 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seeandsee (Post 14658378)
At end, if they want to steal, they will record screen

I love this complaint -

1. 99% of your surfers will not bother.
2. The current solution of doing nothing is not working.
3. It is just that much easier to prove copyright infringement if they did that.

4. the first sites to do this might have exclusive content a lot longer then other sites and thus a competitive advantage

:thumbsup

slapass 08-25-2008 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 14660468)
One of the top reasons surfers buy memberships and stay members is they are not afraid that they cannot see the videos when their membership expires... When you tell them stream only they don't even buy.

This will never ever change because someone like Brazzers will ALWAYS offer downloads with no DRM!

Is that true? I thought they were jonesing on a particular set and want to see more.

fatfoo 08-25-2008 07:50 PM

good solution, bump

onno 08-25-2008 10:37 PM

i think someone is trying to make some quick buck$$ from some poor scare guys...

Robbie 08-25-2008 10:45 PM

I bought Adobe Flash Server a couple of months ago and started streaming h264's with rtmpe encryption. Every new update that I put up since that time has remained EXCLUSIVE to our members area. Just like it's supposed to. And to make it that much sweeter...we are now seeing a rise in sales. :) Turns out that when you have an exclusive solo girl site and you shoot your own stuff...the fans of the site want to see the newest updates and if they can't find it on a tube 1 hour after you release it...they join. Also helps that we have a dynamic tour that reflects the members area updates as they happen. It's a nice "one-two" punch

Aussie Rebel 08-25-2008 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wootpr0n (Post 14663183)
Brazzers is very good at enforcing their copyrights.

Funniest post I've read all day:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

cem 08-26-2008 02:10 AM

I still have a copy of fms, i wonder if they allow me to sell it as i dont use it anymore.

munki 08-26-2008 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 14663832)
I bought Adobe Flash Server a couple of months ago and started streaming h264's with rtmpe encryption. Every new update that I put up since that time has remained EXCLUSIVE to our members area. Just like it's supposed to. And to make it that much sweeter...we are now seeing a rise in sales. :) Turns out that when you have an exclusive solo girl site and you shoot your own stuff...the fans of the site want to see the newest updates and if they can't find it on a tube 1 hour after you release it...they join. Also helps that we have a dynamic tour that reflects the members area updates as they happen. It's a nice "one-two" punch

I've been doing a ton of research into various setups, and would love to check yours out at some point if you wouldn't mind... :thumbsup:thumbsup

Gasper 08-26-2008 03:11 AM

bump bump


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