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Knockout pressure point
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I think kicking people in the nuts works pretty good too.. and no training needed!
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That was impressive,and quick
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Yikez.. I sure hope it costs a lot to learn how to do this.
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That was very quick! The guy got breathless at the same moment!!!
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No wonder "pressure point" techniques are dominating in MMA.
Oh, wait...
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god damn that was scary
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its very easy to do.
first... you work on convincing a bunch of gullible tards that you're a bad ass and that you can teach them to catch bullets with their teeth. second... you drone on and on about ancient arts, energy forces, disrupting energy forces etc etc etc. third.. you build up to telling them you are going to teach them the most dangerous, deadly techniques ever. you continue to stress that its not a game, this shits serious and that very few people in the world know about it. by this point, the young jedi are ready to believe anything fourth... you pick the weak from the herd as "volunteers" - make sure they understand you are going to knock them out by using simple pressure points.. make sure they know what they will feel, how it will work, etc etc etc. ....basically telling his brain how to make his body react to certain stimuli. its another ancient art called "the power of suggestion" fifth... you do whatever it is you told him you were going to do... over dramatize it as much as possible... and watch him hit the ground. BUT ... this point is crucial, like any decent martial arts illusionist (i.e. dillman).. you sell it AFTER the fact as well... race over, take his pulse, arrange his body into various "special positions" to counter the effects etc etc etc. act panicked to reinforce the point that this is "not a game" and "very deadly" glance around the room... pick the next weakest retard... repeat. |
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there is a reason all these morons never actually fight and can never actually demonstrate their techniques outside their own classroom on people who are not so eager to believe.
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Whas it real?
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Reminds me of those preachers who "heal" people by slapping them on the forehead and then they fall out on the ground.
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hmmmmm...I'm skeptical. Who wants to be my test dummy?
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Hmmm. Hate to say this but.. Um your wrong. He struck the brachial stun point( not sure about the spelling on that ) , at the same time as hitting the carotid artery. In most people the combination of the 2 impacts at the same time will incapacitate them for up to 10 min or so.
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Many of these ancient techniques can be learned by repeatedly watching classic old Shaw Bros. kung fu movies. Currently I'm studying the movie Fist of the White Lotus in my quest to master the "100 Pace Palm".
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"most people" "same time..." blah blah blah. does it happen outside the class? ever see an unruly drunk get knocked out in such a way? uhm no. because it doesn't happen. ever. you've never seen it happen and never will in the real world. ![]() |
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Hahaha what a joke.
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This is correct. The technique is still widely tought in self-defense courses for local, military, and federal police. There are several survaillance videos floating around that show it being used by police officers and anyone who has been through any type of basic self-defense training, in real life. It is effective, I have seen it happen first hand, and in all of the classes I had to attend and elected to attend, it was taught and practiced.
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![]() ![]() That's because what you were taught is fucking nonsense. In a real fight, the chances of you being able to punch two specific points at the same time is just, well, non existant. Don't believe the bullshit, learn how to fight for real.
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The Mastoid is a knockout point. I have never seen it done like that.
EAR, OR MASTOID, BLOW The mastoid is located directly behind the ear, encasing the ear bones, and is the hardest bone in the body. The blow is landed directly behind or over the back part of the ear. It does not always produce a knock-out, but shocks the brain and causes the victim to stagger and wobble for a few seconds. Many boxers shows its effect by "cauliflower" or clipped ears.
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No. The reason this shit isn't used in MMA is because while you're trying to be mr johnny specific pressure point puncher, the other guy is just going to beat you up.
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are you fucking stupid ? you get califlower ears because you don't drain your ears after somebody fucks them up in practice. Headgear keeps you from getting califlower, but not getting knocked out |
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If the technique did not work, they would not be still teaching it several years later. I didn't even need to see the video before I knew what the OP was talking about, it's that widely taught and used, to this day. And the fact is, you don't need to hit both point at the same time. Base of the neck, even a strong slap, and a downward and in motion, will do it. Most of the time it happens and is effective because of repetitive training. When you do something over and over, hundreds of times (even if not actually striking a human being), when it's time to defend yourself or another person, your training will kick in, and without you even thinking you will refer back to your repetitive training. But what the fuck do I know, over 10 years of civillian law enforcement and federal training, how would I know, heh.
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Argue? I think we are on the same page. Knockouts come from hitting the pressure point called the jaw, which rattles the brain. I can list a lot of martial arts.
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Civilian law enforcment and federal training! Wow, the good stuff. With all due respect, I train to fight 4 hours a day, 6 days a week. Live, real training, not 1000 kicks in the air and some forms. I've taught self defense seminars, and yes even to law enforcement. What you've been taught might work with a completely untrained fighter, but I'm telling you, this pressure point nonsense will get you beaten up by a real fighter every single time. ![]()
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Sorry, I cut and pasted that and the point is the mastoid is a pressure point that knocks you out. You don't see anyone standing around in MMA waiting for you to hit them in the mastoid. But the mastoid is a pressure point if someone hits it directly or the jaw rattles it, it can knock you out or make you wobble. Happens all the time in boxing and mma. You get califlower ear from scar tissue building up in your ears. Can come from boxing, wrestling, and grappling.
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Yet put the best in each discipline in a fight arround a well rounded fighter and they'll get smashed. Maybe it works when the person is standing still, but i've yet to see somebody use any other technique then wrestling/punching/clinching in a streetfight. |
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I believe you have missed my point. I think you would agree that the body has pressure points. What we can all agree on is that in combat it isn't gonna look like you touching a guy on the ear and him going to sleep. It is gonna be a kick to the jaw or side of the head, then if you hit that point, he will wobble or go to sleep. I am not buying into din mak bullshit touch and die techniques. I am saying that the if someone punches you in the arm it ain't gonna knock you out. If someone punches you in the cheekbone it probably won't. If someone punches you in the mastoid it will probably have more effect than the two prior punches in ending the fight.
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Works best on drunk guys that don't know how to fight.
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That is a lot of training! You are in Costa Rica? There is an mma event coming up at the end of August in San Jose. Are you involved with it?
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there is a difference between "applying pressure" and using some mystical explanation about magical points on the body that shut down your nervous system, disrupt chi or call on the magical power of the evil unicorns of the black forest ... and kicking someone in the head and transferring 1000-2000 pounds of force from your leg to their face. thats not "pressure" |
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Yeah I know the guy that puts on those shows, and I've trained with a lot of the guys that fight in them. All the Gracie Barra guys I trained with down there. Sydney Machado is who I trained under, and he fought in the Bodog fights in Costa Rica. In Vancouver I'm training under Tim Shears at Gracie Barra Vancouver. Remember, that 4 hours includes running, weights, BJJ and Judo. So I guess it's not exactly 4 hours of "training" each day, heh.
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I disagree that 1000 - 2000 pounds of force isn't pressure. In the video I thought what I saw was a strike to the side of the head with a hand technique (granted the guy was just standing there so it could be done without defense). Didn't see any disruption of chi, or magical power. Saw a mastoid strike rattle a guys brain and knock said guy out.
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And yes, that is 4 hours of training a day.
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Just want to add... Knockouts in Boxing, MMA, Muay Thai, happen, and yes they are pressure points attacks.
What you should pay attention too is they DO NOT ALWAYS HAPPEN in those sports. A large target, the head, chin, etc, is a hard target to hit, pressure points like above are even harder. Please read up on the effects of an Adrenal Dump and how it affect fine and gross motor skills. Then go train in a real fighting style. Cause Chi Sao death touches ain't it. There's a reason why Death Touch Masters are fat slobs, cause they are lazy bastards.
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Two observations:
1)In the original video, the guy "blacks out" yet continues to hold stiffly on to the attackers uniform enough to support his own weight gently to the ground. 2)In the pimp-knockout, its just a well-trained backfist to the temple, of course its going to take the guy down. Hit me in the skull with a hammer, I'm going down. |
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