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DirtyProfits 08-10-2008 10:27 PM

Knockout pressure point
 
http://www.hunterjunk.com/media.php?...oint-knock-out

Damn I need to learn how this works. :)

Iron Fist 08-10-2008 10:31 PM

I think kicking people in the nuts works pretty good too.. and no training needed!

Spunky 08-10-2008 10:37 PM

That was impressive,and quick

klaze 08-10-2008 11:14 PM

Yikez.. I sure hope it costs a lot to learn how to do this.

tranza 08-11-2008 07:20 AM

That was very quick! The guy got breathless at the same moment!!!

Libertine 08-11-2008 07:24 AM

No wonder "pressure point" techniques are dominating in MMA.

Oh, wait...

marketsmart 08-11-2008 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Libertine (Post 14590811)
No wonder "pressure point" techniques are dominating in MMA.

Oh, wait...

they are illegal in mma.... :2 cents:

Manowar 08-11-2008 07:29 AM

god damn that was scary

Pleasurepays 08-11-2008 07:31 AM

its very easy to do.

first... you work on convincing a bunch of gullible tards that you're a bad ass and that you can teach them to catch bullets with their teeth.

second... you drone on and on about ancient arts, energy forces, disrupting energy forces etc etc etc.

third.. you build up to telling them you are going to teach them the most dangerous, deadly techniques ever. you continue to stress that its not a game, this shits serious and that very few people in the world know about it.

by this point, the young jedi are ready to believe anything

fourth... you pick the weak from the herd as "volunteers" - make sure they understand you are going to knock them out by using simple pressure points.. make sure they know what they will feel, how it will work, etc etc etc. ....basically telling his brain how to make his body react to certain stimuli.

its another ancient art called "the power of suggestion"

fifth... you do whatever it is you told him you were going to do... over dramatize it as much as possible... and watch him hit the ground.

BUT ... this point is crucial, like any decent martial arts illusionist (i.e. dillman).. you sell it AFTER the fact as well... race over, take his pulse, arrange his body into various "special positions" to counter the effects etc etc etc. act panicked to reinforce the point that this is "not a game" and "very deadly"

glance around the room... pick the next weakest retard... repeat.

Pleasurepays 08-11-2008 07:35 AM

there is a reason all these morons never actually fight and can never actually demonstrate their techniques outside their own classroom on people who are not so eager to believe.

VicD 08-11-2008 07:39 AM

Whas it real?

Holly 08-11-2008 07:47 AM

Reminds me of those preachers who "heal" people by slapping them on the forehead and then they fall out on the ground.

Marcus Aurelius 08-11-2008 07:47 AM

hmmmmm...I'm skeptical. Who wants to be my test dummy?

pornguy 08-11-2008 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 14590843)
its very easy to do.

first... you work on convincing a bunch of gullible tards that you're a bad ass and that you can teach them to catch bullets with their teeth.

second... you drone on and on about ancient arts, energy forces, disrupting energy forces etc etc etc.

third.. you build up to telling them you are going to teach them the most dangerous, deadly techniques ever. you continue to stress that its not a game, this shits serious and that very few people in the world know about it.

by this point, the young jedi are ready to believe anything

fourth... you pick the weak from the herd as "volunteers" - make sure they understand you are going to knock them out by using simple pressure points.. make sure they know what they will feel, how it will work, etc etc etc. ....basically telling his brain how to make his body react to certain stimuli.

its another ancient art called "the power of suggestion"

fifth... you do whatever it is you told him you were going to do... over dramatize it as much as possible... and watch him hit the ground.

BUT ... this point is crucial, like any decent martial arts illusionist (i.e. dillman).. you sell it AFTER the fact as well... race over, take his pulse, arrange his body into various "special positions" to counter the effects etc etc etc. act panicked to reinforce the point that this is "not a game" and "very deadly"

glance around the room... pick the next weakest retard... repeat.




Hmmm. Hate to say this but.. Um your wrong. He struck the brachial stun point( not sure about the spelling on that ) , at the same time as hitting the carotid artery. In most people the combination of the 2 impacts at the same time will incapacitate them for up to 10 min or so.

RobertD 08-11-2008 07:58 AM

Many of these ancient techniques can be learned by repeatedly watching classic old Shaw Bros. kung fu movies. Currently I'm studying the movie Fist of the White Lotus in my quest to master the "100 Pace Palm". :stoned


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Pleasurepays 08-11-2008 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 14590938)
Hmmm. Hate to say this but.. Um your wrong. He struck the brachial stun point( not sure about the spelling on that ) , at the same time as hitting the carotid artery. In most people the combination of the 2 impacts at the same time will incapacitate them for up to 10 min or so.

yeah... sure.

"most people"
"same time..."

blah blah blah.


does it happen outside the class?

ever see an unruly drunk get knocked out in such a way?

uhm no.

because it doesn't happen.

ever.

you've never seen it happen and never will in the real world.


:2 cents:

Pleasurepays 08-11-2008 08:14 AM

more magical badassness

https://youtube.com/watch?v=JM_qg5d1YGI

WarChild 08-11-2008 08:22 AM

Hahaha what a joke.

newbreed 08-11-2008 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 14590938)
Hmmm. Hate to say this but.. Um your wrong. He struck the brachial stun point( not sure about the spelling on that ) , at the same time as hitting the carotid artery. In most people the combination of the 2 impacts at the same time will incapacitate them for up to 10 min or so.


This is correct.

The technique is still widely tought in self-defense courses for local, military, and federal police.

There are several survaillance videos floating around that show it being used by police officers and anyone who has been through any type of basic self-defense training, in real life.

It is effective, I have seen it happen first hand, and in all of the classes I had to attend and elected to attend, it was taught and practiced.

The Duck 08-11-2008 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 14590843)
its very easy to do.

first... you work on convincing a bunch of gullible tards that you're a bad ass and that you can teach them to catch bullets with their teeth.

second... you drone on and on about ancient arts, energy forces, disrupting energy forces etc etc etc.

third.. you build up to telling them you are going to teach them the most dangerous, deadly techniques ever. you continue to stress that its not a game, this shits serious and that very few people in the world know about it.

by this point, the young jedi are ready to believe anything

fourth... you pick the weak from the herd as "volunteers" - make sure they understand you are going to knock them out by using simple pressure points.. make sure they know what they will feel, how it will work, etc etc etc. ....basically telling his brain how to make his body react to certain stimuli.

its another ancient art called "the power of suggestion"

fifth... you do whatever it is you told him you were going to do... over dramatize it as much as possible... and watch him hit the ground.

BUT ... this point is crucial, like any decent martial arts illusionist (i.e. dillman).. you sell it AFTER the fact as well... race over, take his pulse, arrange his body into various "special positions" to counter the effects etc etc etc. act panicked to reinforce the point that this is "not a game" and "very deadly"

glance around the room... pick the next weakest retard... repeat.

Well written.

WarChild 08-11-2008 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newbreed (Post 14591207)
This is correct.

The technique is still widely tought in self-defense courses for local, military, and federal police.

There are several survaillance videos floating around that show it being used by police officers and anyone who has been through any type of basic self-defense training, in real life.

It is effective, I have seen it happen first hand, and in all of the classes I had to attend and elected to attend, it was taught and practiced.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

That's because what you were taught is fucking nonsense. In a real fight, the chances of you being able to punch two specific points at the same time is just, well, non existant.

Don't believe the bullshit, learn how to fight for real.

MakingItPay 08-11-2008 09:46 AM

The Mastoid is a knockout point. I have never seen it done like that.

EAR, OR MASTOID, BLOW

The mastoid is located directly behind the ear, encasing the ear bones, and is the hardest bone in the body. The blow is landed directly behind or over the back part of the ear. It does not always produce a knock-out, but shocks the brain and causes the victim to stagger and wobble for a few seconds. Many boxers shows its effect by "cauliflower" or clipped ears.

WarChild 08-11-2008 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 14590825)
they are illegal in mma.... :2 cents:

No. The reason this shit isn't used in MMA is because while you're trying to be mr johnny specific pressure point puncher, the other guy is just going to beat you up.

Pleasurepays 08-11-2008 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MakingItPay (Post 14591453)
The Mastoid is a knockout point. I have never seen it done like that.

EAR, OR MASTOID, BLOW

The mastoid is located directly behind the ear, encasing the ear bones, and is the hardest bone in the body. The blow is landed directly behind or over the back part of the ear. It does not always produce a knock-out, but shocks the brain and causes the victim to stagger and wobble for a few seconds. Many boxers shows its effect by "cauliflower" or clipped ears.

really? if you hit someone in the head you might cause the "victim" to stagger and wobble for a few seconds?

can't believe the wealth of knowledge that can be found on GFY at times.


:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

MakingItPay 08-11-2008 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 14591470)
No. The reason this shit isn't used in MMA is because while you're trying to be mr johnny specific pressure point puncher, the other guy is just going to beat you up.

Pressure points are used all the time in MMA. When a guy gets knocked out it because the blow was landed on the chin/jaw which causes a knockout. Usually these techniques have to be set up with other techniques because your opponent isn't standing in front of you waiting for you to hit him in the head. :thumbsup

Verbal 08-11-2008 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 14591056)

LOL - next time I'm in a fight I'll try to remember to point my toes in opposite directions to nullify any the affects. NIIICEEE :thumbsup

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE 08-11-2008 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 14590843)
its very easy to do.

first... you work on convincing a bunch of gullible tards that you're a bad ass and that you can teach them to catch bullets with their teeth.

second... you drone on and on about ancient arts, energy forces, disrupting energy forces etc etc etc.

third.. you build up to telling them you are going to teach them the most dangerous, deadly techniques ever. you continue to stress that its not a game, this shits serious and that very few people in the world know about it.

by this point, the young jedi are ready to believe anything

fourth... you pick the weak from the herd as "volunteers" - make sure they understand you are going to knock them out by using simple pressure points.. make sure they know what they will feel, how it will work, etc etc etc. ....basically telling his brain how to make his body react to certain stimuli.

its another ancient art called "the power of suggestion"

fifth... you do whatever it is you told him you were going to do... over dramatize it as much as possible... and watch him hit the ground.

BUT ... this point is crucial, like any decent martial arts illusionist (i.e. dillman).. you sell it AFTER the fact as well... race over, take his pulse, arrange his body into various "special positions" to counter the effects etc etc etc. act panicked to reinforce the point that this is "not a game" and "very deadly"

glance around the room... pick the next weakest retard... repeat.


Thanks for the laugh... :1orglaugh:thumbsup

Doctor Dre 08-11-2008 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MakingItPay (Post 14591453)
The Mastoid is a knockout point. I have never seen it done like that.

EAR, OR MASTOID, BLOW

The mastoid is located directly behind the ear, encasing the ear bones, and is the hardest bone in the body. The blow is landed directly behind or over the back part of the ear. It does not always produce a knock-out, but shocks the brain and causes the victim to stagger and wobble for a few seconds. Many boxers shows its effect by "cauliflower" or clipped ears.

So wait, you get califlower ears by getting kocked out from getting hit behind the head ?(wich is illegal in boxing btw)

are you fucking stupid ? you get califlower ears because you don't drain your ears after somebody fucks them up in practice.

Headgear keeps you from getting califlower, but not getting knocked out

WarChild 08-11-2008 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MakingItPay (Post 14591495)
Pressure points are used all the time in MMA. When a guy gets knocked out it because the blow was landed on the chin/jaw which causes a knockout. Usually these techniques have to be set up with other techniques because your opponent isn't standing in front of you waiting for you to hit him in the head. :thumbsup

Look, I've been fighting pretty much my whole life. I've taken more styles of martial arts than you can probably list. I'm not going to even bother arguing with you. You keep practicing magic and sooner or later you'll be able to do the no touch knock out too.

Pleasurepays 08-11-2008 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Verbal (Post 14591498)
LOL - next time I'm in a fight I'll try to remember to point my toes in opposite directions to nullify any the affects. NIIICEEE :thumbsup

i'm also in tampa... wanna fight? we can do it with or without toe pointing to nullify the effects of the ancient chinese chi knockout. its up to you. meet you at bayshore and howard at 6pm tonight. we can have a "no touch fight" and just use our chi energy to beat each other into submission

or... we can fight with chi energy balls - https://youtube.com/watch?v=9sJP-UA6-TY

WarChild 08-11-2008 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre (Post 14591516)
So wait, you get califlower ears by getting kocked out from getting hit behind the head ?(wich is illegal in boxing btw)

are you fucking stupid ? you get califlower ears because you don't drain your ears after somebody fucks them up in practice.

Headgear keeps you from getting califlower, but not getting knocked out

Dude, just let it go. It's not worth it.

newbreed 08-11-2008 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 14591433)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

That's because what you were taught is fucking nonsense. In a real fight, the chances of you being able to punch two specific points at the same time is just, well, non existant.

Don't believe the bullshit, learn how to fight for real.

Or, you can become better informed at what really does, and does not work, in a real World scenario.

If the technique did not work, they would not be still teaching it several years later. I didn't even need to see the video before I knew what the OP was talking about, it's that widely taught and used, to this day.

And the fact is, you don't need to hit both point at the same time. Base of the neck, even a strong slap, and a downward and in motion, will do it.

Most of the time it happens and is effective because of repetitive training. When you do something over and over, hundreds of times (even if not actually striking a human being), when it's time to defend yourself or another person, your training will kick in, and without you even thinking you will refer back to your repetitive training.

But what the fuck do I know, over 10 years of civillian law enforcement and federal training, how would I know, heh. :disgust

MakingItPay 08-11-2008 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 14591518)
Look, I've been fighting pretty much my whole life. I've taken more styles of martial arts than you can probably list. I'm not going to even bother arguing with you. You keep practicing magic and sooner or later you'll be able to do the no touch knock out too.

Argue? I think we are on the same page. Knockouts come from hitting the pressure point called the jaw, which rattles the brain. I can list a lot of martial arts.

WarChild 08-11-2008 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newbreed (Post 14591530)
Or, you can become better informed at what really does, and does not work, in a real World scenario.

If the technique did not work, they would not be still teaching it several years later. I didn't even need to see the video before I knew what the OP was talking about, it's that widely taught and used, to this day.

And the fact is, you don't need to hit both point at the same time. Base of the neck, even a strong slap, and a downward and in motion, will do it.

Most of the time it happens and is effective because of repetitive training. When you do something over and over, hundreds of times (even if not actually striking a human being), when it's time to defend yourself or another person, your training will kick in, and without you even thinking you will refer back to your repetitive training.

But what the fuck do I know, over 10 years of civillian law enforcement and federal training, how would I know, heh. :disgust


Civilian law enforcment and federal training! Wow, the good stuff.

With all due respect, I train to fight 4 hours a day, 6 days a week. Live, real training, not 1000 kicks in the air and some forms. I've taught self defense seminars, and yes even to law enforcement.

What you've been taught might work with a completely untrained fighter, but I'm telling you, this pressure point nonsense will get you beaten up by a real fighter every single time. :2 cents:

MakingItPay 08-11-2008 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre (Post 14591516)
So wait, you get califlower ears by getting kocked out from getting hit behind the head ?(wich is illegal in boxing btw)

are you fucking stupid ? you get califlower ears because you don't drain your ears after somebody fucks them up in practice.

Headgear keeps you from getting califlower, but not getting knocked out


Sorry, I cut and pasted that and the point is the mastoid is a pressure point that knocks you out. You don't see anyone standing around in MMA waiting for you to hit them in the mastoid. But the mastoid is a pressure point if someone hits it directly or the jaw rattles it, it can knock you out or make you wobble. Happens all the time in boxing and mma.

You get califlower ear from scar tissue building up in your ears. Can come from boxing, wrestling, and grappling.

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE 08-11-2008 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 14591039)
yeah... sure.

"most people"
"same time..."

blah blah blah.


does it happen outside the class?

ever see an unruly drunk get knocked out in such a way?

uhm no.

because it doesn't happen.

ever.

you've never seen it happen and never will in the real world.


:2 cents:


Yeah it does...

Doctor Dre 08-11-2008 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newbreed (Post 14591530)
Or, you can become better informed at what really does, and does not work, in a real World scenario.

If the technique did not work, they would not be still teaching it several years later. I didn't even need to see the video before I knew what the OP was talking about, it's that widely taught and used, to this day.

And the fact is, you don't need to hit both point at the same time. Base of the neck, even a strong slap, and a downward and in motion, will do it.

Most of the time it happens and is effective because of repetitive training. When you do something over and over, hundreds of times (even if not actually striking a human being), when it's time to defend yourself or another person, your training will kick in, and without you even thinking you will refer back to your repetitive training.

But what the fuck do I know, over 10 years of civillian law enforcement and federal training, how would I know, heh. :disgust

Kung Fu has been trained for thousands of years... Tae Kwan Do is an olympic discipline.

Yet put the best in each discipline in a fight arround a well rounded fighter and they'll get smashed.

Maybe it works when the person is standing still, but i've yet to see somebody use any other technique then wrestling/punching/clinching in a streetfight.

MakingItPay 08-11-2008 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 14591551)
Civilian law enforcment and federal training! Wow, the good stuff.

With all due respect, I train to fight 4 hours a day, 6 days a week. Live, real training, not 1000 kicks in the air and some forms. I've taught self defense seminars, and yes even to law enforcement.

What you've been taught might work with a completely untrained fighter, but I'm telling you, this pressure point nonsense will get you beaten up by a real fighter every single time. :2 cents:


I believe you have missed my point. I think you would agree that the body has pressure points. What we can all agree on is that in combat it isn't gonna look like you touching a guy on the ear and him going to sleep. It is gonna be a kick to the jaw or side of the head, then if you hit that point, he will wobble or go to sleep. I am not buying into din mak bullshit touch and die techniques. I am saying that the if someone punches you in the arm it ain't gonna knock you out. If someone punches you in the cheekbone it probably won't. If someone punches you in the mastoid it will probably have more effect than the two prior punches in ending the fight.

Verbal 08-11-2008 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 14591521)
i'm also in tampa... wanna fight? we can do it with or without toe pointing to nullify the effects of the ancient chinese chi knockout. its up to you. meet you at bayshore and howard at 6pm tonight. we can have a "no touch fight" and just use our chi energy to beat each other into submission

or... we can fight with chi energy balls - https://youtube.com/watch?v=9sJP-UA6-TY

You're on ... but wear sandals punk! I want to keep an eye you those toes.

MakingItPay 08-11-2008 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Clark (Post 14591568)
Yeah it does...

Works best on drunk guys that don't know how to fight. :thumbsup

MakingItPay 08-11-2008 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 14591551)
Civilian law enforcment and federal training! Wow, the good stuff.

With all due respect, I train to fight 4 hours a day, 6 days a week. Live, real training, not 1000 kicks in the air and some forms. I've taught self defense seminars, and yes even to law enforcement.

What you've been taught might work with a completely untrained fighter, but I'm telling you, this pressure point nonsense will get you beaten up by a real fighter every single time. :2 cents:


That is a lot of training! You are in Costa Rica? There is an mma event coming up at the end of August in San Jose. Are you involved with it?

LeRoy 08-11-2008 10:28 AM

Thats was baddass

Pleasurepays 08-11-2008 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MakingItPay (Post 14591581)
I believe you have missed my point. I think you would agree that the body has pressure points. What we can all agree on is that in combat it isn't gonna look like you touching a guy on the ear and him going to sleep. It is gonna be a kick to the jaw or side of the head, then if you hit that point, he will wobble or go to sleep. I am not buying into din mak bullshit touch and die techniques. I am saying that the if someone punches you in the arm it ain't gonna knock you out. If someone punches you in the cheekbone it probably won't. If someone punches you in the mastoid it will probably have more effect than the two prior punches in ending the fight.


there is a difference between "applying pressure" and using some mystical explanation about magical points on the body that shut down your nervous system, disrupt chi or call on the magical power of the evil unicorns of the black forest

... and kicking someone in the head and transferring 1000-2000 pounds of force from your leg to their face. thats not "pressure"

WarChild 08-11-2008 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MakingItPay (Post 14591606)
That is a lot of training! You are in Costa Rica? There is an mma event coming up at the end of August in San Jose. Are you involved with it?

I'm actually back in Vancouver BC.

Yeah I know the guy that puts on those shows, and I've trained with a lot of the guys that fight in them. All the Gracie Barra guys I trained with down there. Sydney Machado is who I trained under, and he fought in the Bodog fights in Costa Rica.

In Vancouver I'm training under Tim Shears at Gracie Barra Vancouver. :)

Remember, that 4 hours includes running, weights, BJJ and Judo. So I guess it's not exactly 4 hours of "training" each day, heh.

MakingItPay 08-11-2008 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 14591618)
there is a difference between "applying pressure" and using some mystical explanation about magical points on the body that shut down your nervous system, disrupt chi or call on the magical power of the evil unicorns of the black forest

... and kicking someone in the head and transferring 1000-2000 pounds of force from your leg to their face. thats not "pressure"


I disagree that 1000 - 2000 pounds of force isn't pressure. In the video I thought what I saw was a strike to the side of the head with a hand technique (granted the guy was just standing there so it could be done without defense). Didn't see any disruption of chi, or magical power. Saw a mastoid strike rattle a guys brain and knock said guy out.
:winkwink:

MakingItPay 08-11-2008 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 14591631)
I'm actually back in Vancouver BC.

Yeah I know the guy that puts on those shows, and I've trained with a lot of the guys that fight in them. All the Gracie Barra guys I trained with down there. Sydney Machado is who I trained under, and he fought in the Bodog fights in Costa Rica.

In Vancouver I'm training under Tim Shears at Gracie Barra Vancouver. :)

Very nice. If you are going to train in Jiu Jitsu, Gracie is the best of the best. :thumbsup

And yes, that is 4 hours of training a day.

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE 08-11-2008 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MakingItPay (Post 14591599)
Works best on drunk guys that don't know how to fight. :thumbsup

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Anthony 08-11-2008 10:42 AM

Just want to add... Knockouts in Boxing, MMA, Muay Thai, happen, and yes they are pressure points attacks.

What you should pay attention too is they DO NOT ALWAYS HAPPEN in those sports.

A large target, the head, chin, etc, is a hard target to hit, pressure points like above are even harder. Please read up on the effects of an Adrenal Dump and how it affect fine and gross motor skills.

Then go train in a real fighting style.

Cause Chi Sao death touches ain't it. There's a reason why Death Touch Masters are fat slobs, cause they are lazy bastards. :)

gornyhuy 08-11-2008 10:44 AM

Two observations:
1)In the original video, the guy "blacks out" yet continues to hold stiffly on to the attackers uniform enough to support his own weight gently to the ground.

2)In the pimp-knockout, its just a well-trained backfist to the temple, of course its going to take the guy down. Hit me in the skull with a hammer, I'm going down.

Anthony 08-11-2008 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gornyhuy (Post 14591688)
Two observations:
1)In the original video, the guy "blacks out" yet continues to hold stiffly on to the attackers uniform enough to support his own weight gently to the ground.

2)In the pimp-knockout, its just a well-trained backfist to the temple, of course its going to take the guy down. Hit me in the skull with a hammer, I'm going down.

You know, for those of us who have done Karate, that backfist was actually very sloppy, and almost missed it's target. Hell, even the Karate guy was surprised.


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