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Kard63 · 08-08-2008, 08:43 PM

What is a decent bounce rate?

baddog · 08-08-2008, 09:03 PM

bounce rate?

datatank · 08-08-2008, 09:07 PM

Average spamish blog with links to paysite I see around 80% bounce

Tubeish looking site with videos I see around 30% in best cases

Hope this help

Sands · 08-09-2008, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by datatank

Average spamish blog with links to paysite I see around 80% bounce

Tubeish looking site with videos I see around 30% in best cases

Hope this help

That's pretty close to my own bounce rates.

d-null · 08-09-2008, 01:19 AM

bounce rates are where google could really fuck things up if they start to use it more in the algorithm

Iron Fist · 08-09-2008, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

bounce rate?

What does Bounce Rate mean?

Bounce rate is the percentage of single-page visits or visits in which the person left your site from the entrance (landing) page. Use this metric to measure visit quality - a high bounce rate generally indicates that site entrance pages aren't relevant to your visitors. The more compelling your landing pages, the more visitors will stay on your site and convert. You can minimize bounce rates by tailoring landing pages to each keyword and ad that you run. Landing pages should provide the information and services that were promised in the ad copy.

To view the bounce rates for your website, go to the Bounce Rate report under Visitors > Visitor Trending > Bounce Rate.

http://www.google.com/support/analyt...n&answer=81986

d-null · 08-09-2008, 01:38 AM

the thing is, if a surfer comes to your site, and the first thing they do is spot a thumb or a link that looks good to them, they click straight to your sponsor and a few minutes later sign up, you are doing great money wise but that kind of visit would count as a 100% bounce

a tubesite where the surfer comes, eats up a ton of bandwidth watching a dozen videos, jacks off and then turns off the computer will show a real low bounce rate

so if you have an age question entry page on your site, will you show a near zero bounce rate?? I always thought it had more to do with multiple page visits, not just >1 ?

Iron Fist · 08-09-2008, 01:57 AM

The way Google sees it is that bounce rates off gateway pages means your content must NOT be relevant...

However, its funny because only in the adult world can you have a MGP/TGP which is essentially just one page, and have all your content be completely relevant. On my TGPs my bounce rates are very high... in the 90% and up range, but then again, i'm fine with that because I want them either exiting to trade, or exiting to sponsor like you said.

On a AVS/freesite, I would want it as low as I can make it... understandably.

d-null · 08-09-2008, 02:08 AM

thats what I mean

I think its been said that google toys with the idea of using bounce rate as a measure of relevance in search engine requests, which could end up being a bad thing

sites that steal all their content and give it away for free can look pretty relevant in the search engine world, as a surfer that types in "Playboy" and ends up at a bad tube site or file "sharing" forum is likely to bookmark and stay a long time, whereas a surfer that ends up at a Playboy affiliate is hopefully ending up clicking his way to the Join page on Playboy's site before too long

a search engine algorithm that determines relevance by how long a surfer stays on a landing site could end up rewarding the worst of the worst in adult

d-null · 08-09-2008, 02:11 AM

and alot of this is subject to just how nosy google's toolbar decides to get in the future

google knows the whole 'backlink' system is a poor way to determine relevance, and they are busy doing hand tweaking all the time, so I am sure they are looking at ways to use toolbar data along with their searches to add to the algorithm

seo as we know it today may be drastically different in a year or two

Iron Fist · 08-09-2008, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by d-null

a search engine algorithm that determines relevance by how long a surfer stays on a landing site could end up rewarding the worst of the worst in adult

True enough.. I think I seen someone say "Content is king..."

they're right... except Google can't distinguish legal from illegal content.

DirtyProfits · 08-09-2008, 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

bounce rate?

are you serious? you provide seo services and don't know what the bounce rate is?

polish_aristocrat · 08-09-2008, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by sharphead

What does Bounce Rate mean?

Bounce rate is the percentage of single-page visits or visits in which the person left your site from the entrance (landing) page. Use this metric to measure visit quality - a high bounce rate generally indicates that site entrance pages aren't relevant to your visitors. The more compelling your landing pages, the more visitors will stay on your site and convert. You can minimize bounce rates by tailoring landing pages to each keyword and ad that you run. Landing pages should provide the information and services that were promised in the ad copy.

To view the bounce rates for your website, go to the Bounce Rate report under Visitors > Visitor Trending > Bounce Rate.

http://www.google.com/support/analyt...n&answer=81986

you learn something new everyday

The Duck · 08-09-2008, 04:40 AM

interesting, had no clue about it

fris · 08-09-2008, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyProfits

are you serious? you provide seo services and don't know what the bounce rate is?

ya no kidding, thats like being a football player and not knowing what a touchdown is

baddog · 08-09-2008, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyProfits

are you serious? you provide seo services and don't know what the bounce rate is?

goodgirl does the SEO, not me. I am familiar with what they are talking about, just never heard the name used.

TyroneGoldberg · 08-09-2008, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by fris

ya no kidding, thats like being a football player and not knowing what a touchdown is

There's no touchdowns in football...

Only goals

mynameisjim · 08-09-2008, 11:40 AM

I think bounce rate is a bogus number by itself. Think of it like this.

If you are searching google for something, click on a link, and don't find it on the first page and search all around the site, that's actually a bad experience for the surfer, even though bounce rate would be low since you are searching all over this site and not finding what you wanted.

Now say you click on a link, get the info you need, then move on with your life. The surfer had a good experience but the bounce rate would be very high.

There is no way you can apply the same bounce rate criteria to different types of sites. So it's not a universal stat and has to be used on a site by site basis, and even a search by search basis.

baddog · 08-09-2008, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mynameisjim

I think bounce rate is a bogus number by itself. Think of it like this.

If you are searching google for something, click on a link, and don't find it on the first page and search all around the site, that's actually a bad experience for the surfer, even though bounce rate would be low since you are searching all over this site and not finding what you wanted.

Now say you click on a link, get the info you need, then move on with your life. The surfer had a good experience but the bounce rate would be very high.

There is no way you can apply the same bounce rate criteria to different types of sites. So it's not a universal stat and has to be used on a site by site basis, and even a search by search basis.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bounce_Rate Doesn't sound all that important.

webmasterchecks · 08-09-2008, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bounce_Rate Doesn't sound all that important.

it gives you an idea of whats coming to your site and just bouncing away, cause you want less of that, you can make it better by changing the traffic thats coming and leaving or changing the page around to make it more enticing, id say its one of the more important stats

mynameisjim · 08-09-2008, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by webmasterchecks

it gives you an idea of whats coming to your site and just bouncing away, cause you want less of that, you can make it better by changing the traffic thats coming and leaving or changing the page around to make it more enticing, id say its one of the more important stats

Important depending on the type of site you run. For some, yes is matters, for others, it's worthless.

For example, the drudgereport has a 100% bounce rate, but pulls in over a million dollars a year and is one of the most popular news sites on the internet.

baddog · 08-09-2008, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mynameisjim

Important depending on the type of site you run.

datatank · 08-09-2008, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

[url]Doesn't sound all that important.

Guess its depends on if you want to buy traffic from google or get good organic listings

d-null · 08-09-2008, 04:19 PM

important if google decides it is important to where you rank in the serps

look at it this way, your site makes it to page #1 for a keyword, but your site is showing a high bounce rate when google sends a searcher to you for that keyword, google may then assume that your site is not relevant to the surfer that searched and clicked, so they decide to bump you down a page or two and send you less traffic for that keyword

meanwhile, a site like pornhub gives the surfer all they want for free, so everyone that google sends to pornhub bookmarks, stays and enjoys themselves, and google's algorithm then says, wow 0% bounce rate, this site deserves to be #1 in the serps

qxm · 08-09-2008, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by d-null

important if google decides it is important to where you rank in the serps

look at it this way, your site makes it to page #1 for a keyword, but your site is showing a high bounce rate when google sends a searcher to you for that keyword, google may then assume that your site is not relevant to the surfer that searched and clicked, so they decide to bump you down a page or two and send you less traffic for that keyword

meanwhile, a site like pornhub gives the surfer all they want for free, so everyone that google sends to pornhub bookmarks, stays and enjoys themselves, and google's algorithm then says, wow 0% bounce rate, this site deserves to be #1 in the serps

makes sense, thats why I stopped using analytics on certain sites...... I figure they could get a lot of information about your game if you decide to "give it to them"

fris · 08-09-2008, 04:31 PM

i dont think we can ever trust baddog now since he doesnt have a clue on seo, and runs a so called seo business.

d-null · 08-09-2008, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by qxm

makes sense, thats why I stopped using analytics on certain sites...... I figure they could get a lot of information about your game if you decide to "give it to them"

same here, I took google analytics off of everything long ago

with the pervasiveness of google toolbars though and probably even through user search click patterns, they eventually get all the info they want anyways

TheDoc · 08-09-2008, 05:19 PM

The bounce rate can be used a few different ways. Based off the bounce rate of the different keyword phrases over a period of time, you can see positives and negatives about the text used and photos/design you are using.

If you have a landing page, with lets say a few ladies that are about 30, average looking but huge tits. If you then used the words "amateur" to describe the girls in the body text, your keyword phrases with the word amateur in it would probably have a much higher than average bounce rate.

Changing the word amateurs to ladies, should lower the overall bounce rate.

The SEO of this is the ratios of bounce rate increase vs the traffic drop/increase from a keyword change, which may end up changing your other keyword phrase listings.

On the same keywords, with paysite tours or landing pages for paysites, if you have a high bounce rate on a keyword phrase, ignore the seo factor. Changing to better or proper words or keywords that better match the site the can help conversions. Sometimes the Webmaster thinks we want one thing when we are really looking at another.

Using the bounce rate, the average time they stay on the page and exit rate, you can really judge how well a keyword or webpage is doing. From SEO, to PPC, to just knowing if your on target with what people are seeing.

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d-null . . . Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY Posts: 13,724	the thing is, if a surfer comes to your site, and the first thing they do is spot a thumb or a link that looks good to them, they click straight to your sponsor and a few minutes later sign up, you are doing great money wise but that kind of visit would count as a 100% bounce a tubesite where the surfer comes, eats up a ton of bandwidth watching a dozen videos, jacks off and then turns off the computer will show a real low bounce rate so if you have an age question entry page on your site, will you show a near zero bounce rate?? I always thought it had more to do with multiple page visits, not just >1 ? __________________ __________________ Looking for a custom TUBE SCRIPT that supports massive traffic, load balancing, billing support, and h264 encoding? Hit up Konrad! Looking for designs for your websites or custom tubesite design? Hit up Zuzana Designs Check out the #1 WordPress SEO Plugin: CyberSEO Suite

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Iron Fist Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,400	The way Google sees it is that bounce rates off gateway pages means your content must NOT be relevant... However, its funny because only in the adult world can you have a MGP/TGP which is essentially just one page, and have all your content be completely relevant. On my TGPs my bounce rates are very high... in the 90% and up range, but then again, i'm fine with that because I want them either exiting to trade, or exiting to sponsor like you said. On a AVS/freesite, I would want it as low as I can make it... understandably. __________________ i like waffles

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d-null . . . Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY Posts: 13,724	thats what I mean I think its been said that google toys with the idea of using bounce rate as a measure of relevance in search engine requests, which could end up being a bad thing sites that steal all their content and give it away for free can look pretty relevant in the search engine world, as a surfer that types in "Playboy" and ends up at a bad tube site or file "sharing" forum is likely to bookmark and stay a long time, whereas a surfer that ends up at a Playboy affiliate is hopefully ending up clicking his way to the Join page on Playboy's site before too long a search engine algorithm that determines relevance by how long a surfer stays on a landing site could end up rewarding the worst of the worst in adult __________________ __________________ Looking for a custom TUBE SCRIPT that supports massive traffic, load balancing, billing support, and h264 encoding? Hit up Konrad! Looking for designs for your websites or custom tubesite design? Hit up Zuzana Designs Check out the #1 WordPress SEO Plugin: CyberSEO Suite

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d-null . . . Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY Posts: 13,724	and alot of this is subject to just how nosy google's toolbar decides to get in the future google knows the whole 'backlink' system is a poor way to determine relevance, and they are busy doing hand tweaking all the time, so I am sure they are looking at ways to use toolbar data along with their searches to add to the algorithm seo as we know it today may be drastically different in a year or two __________________ __________________ Looking for a custom TUBE SCRIPT that supports massive traffic, load balancing, billing support, and h264 encoding? Hit up Konrad! Looking for designs for your websites or custom tubesite design? Hit up Zuzana Designs Check out the #1 WordPress SEO Plugin: CyberSEO Suite

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Kard63 Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: 237 619 975 Posts: 8,944	What is a decent bounce rate on a blog with all SEO traffic What is a decent bounce rate? __________________

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baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	bounce rate?

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datatank Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: My dog is blacker than Tupac Posts: 5,471	Average spamish blog with links to paysite I see around 80% bounce Tubeish looking site with videos I see around 30% in best cases Hope this help

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mynameisjim Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,985	I think bounce rate is a bogus number by itself. Think of it like this. If you are searching google for something, click on a link, and don't find it on the first page and search all around the site, that's actually a bad experience for the surfer, even though bounce rate would be low since you are searching all over this site and not finding what you wanted. Now say you click on a link, get the info you need, then move on with your life. The surfer had a good experience but the bounce rate would be very high. There is no way you can apply the same bounce rate criteria to different types of sites. So it's not a universal stat and has to be used on a site by site basis, and even a search by search basis. __________________ jim (at) amateursconvert . com Amateurs Convert

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d-null . . . Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY Posts: 13,724	important if google decides it is important to where you rank in the serps look at it this way, your site makes it to page #1 for a keyword, but your site is showing a high bounce rate when google sends a searcher to you for that keyword, google may then assume that your site is not relevant to the surfer that searched and clicked, so they decide to bump you down a page or two and send you less traffic for that keyword meanwhile, a site like pornhub gives the surfer all they want for free, so everyone that google sends to pornhub bookmarks, stays and enjoys themselves, and google's algorithm then says, wow 0% bounce rate, this site deserves to be #1 in the serps __________________ __________________ Looking for a custom TUBE SCRIPT that supports massive traffic, load balancing, billing support, and h264 encoding? Hit up Konrad! Looking for designs for your websites or custom tubesite design? Hit up Zuzana Designs Check out the #1 WordPress SEO Plugin: CyberSEO Suite

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fris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 55,359	i dont think we can ever trust baddog now since he doesnt have a clue on seo, and runs a so called seo business. __________________ Since 1999: 69 Adult Industry awards for Best Hosting Company and professional excellence. WP Stuff

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TheDoc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Currently Incognito Posts: 13,827	The bounce rate can be used a few different ways. Based off the bounce rate of the different keyword phrases over a period of time, you can see positives and negatives about the text used and photos/design you are using. If you have a landing page, with lets say a few ladies that are about 30, average looking but huge tits. If you then used the words "amateur" to describe the girls in the body text, your keyword phrases with the word amateur in it would probably have a much higher than average bounce rate. Changing the word amateurs to ladies, should lower the overall bounce rate. The SEO of this is the ratios of bounce rate increase vs the traffic drop/increase from a keyword change, which may end up changing your other keyword phrase listings. On the same keywords, with paysite tours or landing pages for paysites, if you have a high bounce rate on a keyword phrase, ignore the seo factor. Changing to better or proper words or keywords that better match the site the can help conversions. Sometimes the Webmaster thinks we want one thing when we are really looking at another. Using the bounce rate, the average time they stay on the page and exit rate, you can really judge how well a keyword or webpage is doing. From SEO, to PPC, to just knowing if your on target with what people are seeing. __________________ ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825 It's all disambiguation