FACT: You've failed as a parent if your kid joins the military

[IncaD]

Doesn't matter what the reasons are for joining, they all come back to bad parenting. Every single one of them.

No money for college? Your fault for not saving up for the past 18 years or looking into student loans and grants.

Kid needs military for direction in life? Should have gotten that at home.

Wants to have fun blowing the enemy away? congrats, you raised a serial killer.

the military is for losers. we do need them and i'm thankful they are there, just like i'm thankful there is someone to fry up my cheeseburger at McDonalds.

[CDSmith]

FACT: You still haven't learned the difference between fact and opinion.

[Mr Pheer]

fucking retards are out today

[IncaD]

thats right. you cant debate what I said so you fling mud. typical. I'll bet you were both in the military.

[Linguist]

fuck you.

[CDSmith]

Originally Posted by IncaD

thats right. you cant debate what I said so you fling mud. typical. I'll bet you were both in the military.

Why would I want to debate what you said? It's your usual brand of useless inflammatory troll tripe, and it's about as transparent as anything else you've ever spewed. Are you somehow under the impression that it's worth responding to?


Btw, how much are you betting?

[cherrylula]

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by CDSmith

FACT: You still haven't learned the difference between fact and opinion.

[seeandsee]

FACT: China army is waiting us on Olympic games

[StuartD]

FACT: You are proof that your parents failed.

[sltr]

most parents fail @ parenting anyhoo, not like they take a test and pass it & get to have kids u know.

no new news here eh

[stickyfingerz]

Hmm then there is always the option that the kid was raised REALLY well raised to love their country, raised to have a sense of duty to the country they love, raised to feel it their personal responsibility to give back to the country they love. Why am I wasting my time responding to trollholio?

[IncaD]

COMMON SENSE: It's better to work in the safety of an office to pay off student loans than to get bullets shot at you in exchange for free college.

[qxm]

FACT: This thread makes my balls feel puzzled.

[IncaD]

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Hmm then there is always the option that the kid was raised REALLY well raised to love their country, raised to have a sense of duty to the country they love, raised to feel it their personal responsibility to give back to the country they love. Why am I wasting my time responding to trollholio?

this isn't WW2. nobody in their right mind is joining the military in it's current climate simply out of patriotism.

ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country.

alright then, i think it'll go get bullets shot at me in the name of serving the great President Bush and his ficticious wars.

[acctman]

FACT: uhh... sorry forgot what I was about to say

[crockett]

Originally Posted by IncaD

Doesn't matter what the reasons are for joining, they all come back to bad parenting. Every single one of them.

No money for college? Your fault for not saving up for the past 18 years or looking into student loans and grants.

Kid needs military for direction in life? Should have gotten that at home.

Wants to have fun blowing the enemy away? congrats, you raised a serial killer.

the military is for losers. we do need them and i'm thankful they are there, just like i'm thankful there is someone to fry up my cheeseburger at McDonalds.

That's a pretty dumb statement but then again there are a lot of real idiots out there so almost nothing amazes me anymore.

I know a guy in the Dutch Airforce and he was just picked to be trained to fly their F-16's. Is he a deadbeat loser too?

[TheDoc]

I wanted to go into the Military since I was a kid, if anything - going the other direction almost stopped me from doing what I really wanted. I quit college, which was paid for and still went into the Marines.

A good parent is someone who teaches the kid about America, patriotism and its real values, letting them know it's an honor to serve our young nation.

What I got out of the Marines, no college could have ever replace. Starting with, no school loans and the balls to step out and start my own business. If I would have stayed in College, I would have taken the first steps of being a Cop - not exactly the direction of the Porn Industry.

[96ukssob]

Originally Posted by StuartD

FACT: You are proof that your parents failed.

[Anna_Miller]

Originally Posted by CDSmith

FACT: You still haven't learned the difference between fact and opinion.

They are supposed to teach that in elementary school right?

[IncaD]

listen, i'm not saying good things don't come out of serving in the military. what i'm saying is that the self development gained through the military should have taken place at home so that parents don't have to rely on the military to turn their wild boys into men.

which is why i said, if your kid joins the military, you are a failed parent 99% of the time. the other 1% would be like the McDonalds burger flipper who knew he was going to go on to become the regional manager.

but when you look at successful parents who have good jobs and have taught their kids well, virtually none of them have kids in the military. it's extremely rare.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by IncaD

COMMON SENSE: It's better to work in the safety of an office to pay off student loans than to get bullets shot at you in exchange for free college.

FACT: A minuscule percentage of our military is even in a position to have bullets shot at them.

FACT: You are a pussy.

[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by IncaD

listen, i'm not saying good things don't come out of serving in the military. what i'm saying is that the self development gained through the military should have taken place at home so that parents don't have to rely on the military to turn their wild boys into men.

which is why i said, if your kid joins the military, you are a failed parent 99% of the time. the other 1% would be like the McDonalds burger flipper who knew he was going to go on to become the regional manager.

but when you look at successful parents who have good jobs and have taught their kids well, virtually none of them have kids in the military. it's extremely rare.

Don't you have some anti American anti War forum to go post on?

Get away from me boy ya botha me....

[CDSmith]

Originally Posted by IncaD

listen, i'm not saying good things don't come out of serving in the military. what i'm saying is that the self development gained through the military should have taken place at home so that parents don't have to rely on the military to turn their wild boys into men.

which is why i said, if your kid joins the military, you are a failed parent 99% of the time. the other 1% would be like the McDonalds burger flipper who knew he was going to go on to become the regional manager.

but when you look at successful parents who have good jobs and have taught their kids well, virtually none of them have kids in the military. it's extremely rare.

[Z]

SupercalafragalisticexpyalaFUCK YOU!

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by IncaD

listen, i'm not saying good things don't come out of serving in the military. what i'm saying is that the self development gained through the military should have taken place at home so that parents don't have to rely on the military to turn their wild boys into men.

which is why i said, if your kid joins the military, you are a failed parent 99% of the time. the other 1% would be like the McDonalds burger flipper who knew he was going to go on to become the regional manager.

but when you look at successful parents who have good jobs and have taught their kids well, virtually none of them have kids in the military. it's extremely rare.

Most the people I know that went into the Military, did it because they wanted to serve this country. Only a few talked about college, or bad times at home, or just wanted to get out of a town. Most, loved what they did, had total honor in it, and actually - most are still in.

So based on what you are saying, every person that reenlists 2-3+ times, they must have had amazing parents, taught them some serious country values, honor, ect. Then if we add in the officers. Most went to ROTC, loved it, went to officers school, loved it - and stay in for years - making it a life long job.

I'm sure in some poor, shit areas of the country, people join the military for all types of reasons. But for the majority of us, we did it for our Country.

I think your understanding of why people fight and die for this country, is a little off.

You probably aren't American.

[Sausage]

Someone has to keep his fat lazy coward ass safe. Thank god for 'failed parenting' then ?

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by IncaD

this isn't WW2. nobody in their right mind is joining the military in it's current climate simply out of patriotism.

ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country.

alright then, i think it'll go get bullets shot at me in the name of serving the great President Bush and his ficticious wars.

so really

you don't have a problem with the military, just the government

[Isradude]

Fact: stupid people are funny.....

[klaze]

Originally Posted by IncaD

Doesn't matter what the reasons are for joining, they all come back to bad parenting. Every single one of them.

No money for college? Your fault for not saving up for the past 18 years or looking into student loans and grants.

Kid needs military for direction in life? Should have gotten that at home.

Wants to have fun blowing the enemy away? congrats, you raised a serial killer.

the military is for losers. we do need them and i'm thankful they are there, just like i'm thankful there is someone to fry up my cheeseburger at McDonalds.

And what do you do for a living?

[PornMogul]

Ive always thought that wars (especially the iraq war) are fought for the leaders entertainment and enjoyment. I think bush and cheney sit in the situation room and just watch some war videos and laugh for their own entertainment. I think the original poster is right. If your kid joins the military, you fucked up.

[tony286]

My cousin is going back in because on the outside he makes about 13 bucks an hour without health insurance.

[Lee]

Whilst I dont entirely agree with your statement I must admit that if any of my kids said they were going into the mlitary I would try to talk them out of it. But thats due to my fears for their safety and how I perceive it. The reality is they are more likely to be killed driving home from a nightout (pray it doesnt happen of course).

[munki]

My lil bro is entering the service... and for none of the reasons originally cited. He wants to be a fireman, has been studying and training in fire science and general construction for years. Military service is going to allow him aggressive hands on training in his chosen profession before returning to civilian life and entering fire academy.

[Defiance Inc]

That's funny, cause everyone I met when I enlisted was poor (e.g. from such a small town the job market couldn't support them), or wanted to travel, get a good life skill/training. All of them were good people. I've met more shitbag, backstabbing assholes in the private industry than I ever did in the military. But, according to you're theory, all the shitbags etc. go in the military...
Your dumbass post proved my point.

[Luscious Media]

I joined for the pussy. It was the uniform...worked every time.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

A good parent is someone who teaches the kid about America, patriotism and its real values, letting them know it's an honor to serve our young nation.

That is a crock of poo.

"America" is dead and gone, so I'm not sure what "real values" you speak of. There is no honor in dying for what is called America these days. You are simply going to fight wars over greed. Soldiers are dying over money. Not "freedom" as it's sold to us. When was the last time we had to fight for freedom? And I'm talking OUR freedom, not someone elses.

At one time this was a great country. It did have values and men did fight and die for the right reasons. But those days are long gone. Never coming back, even with a smooth talking black president.

A good parent is someone who teaches their child about the WORLD and not just America. Teach them to be worldly and how to think for themselves and not eat the shit that is shoveled to them. A good parent teaches their child how to avoid war and not to fall victim to the white mans greed, lies and war machine. A good parent teaches their child that they are not limited by the borders and bullshit of the USA.

Though I do appreciate those of you who do serve, I hope my child never joins the military. Someone has to serve and more power to you all for doing it. It's just sad that none of you are fighting for anything that matters.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

A good parent is someone who teaches the kid about America, patriotism and its real values, letting them know it's an honor to serve our young nation.

That is a crock of poo.

"America" is dead and gone, so I'm not sure what "real values" you speak of. There is no honor in dying for what is called America these days. You are simply going to fight wars over greed. Soldiers are dying over money. Not "freedom" as it's sold to us. When was the last time we had to fight for freedom? And I'm talking OUR freedom, not someone elses.

At one time this was a great country. It did have values and men did fight and die for the right reasons. But those days are long gone. Never coming back, even with a smooth talking black president.

A good parent is someone who teaches their child about the WORLD and not just America. Teach them to be worldly and how to think for themselves and not eat the shit that is shoveled to them. A good parent teaches their child how to avoid war and not to fall victim to the white mans greed, lies and war machine. A good parent teaches their child that they are not limited by the borders and bullshit of the USA.

Though I do appreciate those of you who do serve, I hope my child never joins the military. Someone has to serve and more power to you all for doing it. It's just sad that none of you are fighting for anything that matters.

[woj]

I have no idea why you guys are ripping on him, what he is saying is at least partially true... military isn't exactly the best job to have, it probably beats flipping burgers for $8/hr, but not by much... risking your life for chump change isn't exactly smart no matter how you try to spin it... reality is that most people join military because they don't have anything better going for them at the time...

[woj]

nm......

[StuartD]

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

A good parent is someone who teaches their child about the WORLD and not just America. Teach them to be worldly and how to think for themselves and not eat the shit that is shoveled to them. A good parent teaches their child how to avoid war and not to fall victim to the white mans greed, lies and war machine. A good parent teaches their child that they are not limited by the borders and bullshit of the USA.

true true. I hate how close minded so many die hard "America is #1" people there are. Most of them can't even find other countries on a map, much less have visited them.

Turn off Fox News and CNN, and go find out about the world for yourself. It's a very different place.

[Kudles]

Fact: Who gives a Fuck what other people do with their raising their kids!!!!

[klaze]

Originally Posted by Biddy

Fact: Who gives a Fuck what other people do with their raising their kids!!!!

You mean you don't sit around all day judging other people?

Man... How can you live with yourself?!

[nosey]

Originally Posted by Biddy

Fact: Who gives a Fuck what other people do with their raising their kids!!!!

indeed..

[DWB]

Originally Posted by Biddy

Fact: Who gives a Fuck what other people do with their raising their kids!!!!

I do. Because their kids may someday try to kill my kids over oil or something equally as stupid.

[Babaganoosh]

Originally Posted by munki

My lil bro is entering the service... and for none of the reasons originally cited. He wants to be a fireman, has been studying and training in fire science and general construction for years. Military service is going to allow him aggressive hands on training in his chosen profession before returning to civilian life and entering fire academy.

He definitely doesn't need the military for that. I have a friend who is now a battalion chief in a decent sized city. He's had zero military experience. He didn't even bother with fire science crap. He was a volunteer with a little area town's fire department. When he was 22 he was hired on as a full time firefighter. The city paid for him to become a paramedic. Once he did that he became a battalion chief a few years later.

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

That is a crock of poo.

"America" is dead and gone, so I'm not sure what "real values" you speak of. There is no honor in dying for what is called America these days. You are simply going to fight wars over greed. Soldiers are dying over money. Not "freedom" as it's sold to us. When was the last time we had to fight for freedom? And I'm talking OUR freedom, not someone elses.

At one time this was a great country. It did have values and men did fight and die for the right reasons. But those days are long gone. Never coming back, even with a smooth talking black president.

A good parent is someone who teaches their child about the WORLD and not just America. Teach them to be worldly and how to think for themselves and not eat the shit that is shoveled to them. A good parent teaches their child how to avoid war and not to fall victim to the white mans greed, lies and war machine. A good parent teaches their child that they are not limited by the borders and bullshit of the USA.

Though I do appreciate those of you who do serve, I hope my child never joins the military. Someone has to serve and more power to you all for doing it. It's just sad that none of you are fighting for anything that matters.

Great post.

[Babaganoosh]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

A good parent is someone who teaches the kid about America, patriotism and its real values, letting them know it's an honor to serve our young nation.

What a good little republican you are.

[andrej_NDC]

I agree with you, but it is not only the parents fault. Most people in the army are just too stupid to do anything else and too aggressive to work for McDonalds.

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

That is a crock of poo.

"America" is dead and gone, so I'm not sure what "real values" you speak of. There is no honor in dying for what is called America these days. You are simply going to fight wars over greed. Soldiers are dying over money. Not "freedom" as it's sold to us. When was the last time we had to fight for freedom? And I'm talking OUR freedom, not someone elses.

At one time this was a great country. It did have values and men did fight and die for the right reasons. But those days are long gone. Never coming back, even with a smooth talking black president.

A good parent is someone who teaches their child about the WORLD and not just America. Teach them to be worldly and how to think for themselves and not eat the shit that is shoveled to them. A good parent teaches their child how to avoid war and not to fall victim to the white mans greed, lies and war machine. A good parent teaches their child that they are not limited by the borders and bullshit of the USA.

Though I do appreciate those of you who do serve, I hope my child never joins the military. Someone has to serve and more power to you all for doing it. It's just sad that none of you are fighting for anything that matters.

America is dead and gone? Thinking like this, is "the problem", it's the ONLY problem with this Country. Dead and gone, pfftt... then you may want to leave.

Every war, other than two wars, was not fully supported by all. Only one, was an attack on us, making us fight. And that part of WW2 had huge support. So, other than the AR, Civil War, and one side of the WW2, pretty much all the other battles we some how - "ended up in", just like Afgan and just like Iraq.

So if you don't support Iraq/Afgan, do you support the war on Terror? No? Well good. During the early years of the Nazis people didn't think they had the power to do what happened either. It turned out to be a great example what can happen when the wrong groups get organized.

You can teach peace, love, respect for other countries, but you should let patriotism be what it is, support for your Country. It's your right to not think like others in this country, you should teach that to your kid. But it's not your right as a parent to tell your kid not to support/fight for the country you live in, because of the you feel.

Your feelings today, could be wrong 2, 5, 20 years from now when we really need them.