Originally Posted by IncaD

listen, i'm not saying good things don't come out of serving in the military. what i'm saying is that the self development gained through the military should have taken place at home so that parents don't have to rely on the military to turn their wild boys into men.

which is why i said, if your kid joins the military, you are a failed parent 99% of the time. the other 1% would be like the McDonalds burger flipper who knew he was going to go on to become the regional manager.

but when you look at successful parents who have good jobs and have taught their kids well, virtually none of them have kids in the military. it's extremely rare.