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Old 07-29-2008, 03:09 PM   #1
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I own GoldenPalace.us but I have big problem now.

Hi guys!

I need your help. I own GoldenPalace.us but I don't stop to receive email from lawyer asking to stop using this domain and give the domain name to Godaddy GoldenPalace company account. What you think I need to do about this? Give to domain and that's it?

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Old 07-29-2008, 03:09 PM   #2
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Give the domain to them

it's not worth the legal hassle otherwise
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Old 07-29-2008, 03:11 PM   #3
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No way!

That is an empty threat! You will be informed by the registry if they are going to remove it from you. Until then tell them they can buy it off you or suck your Cock!!

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Old 07-29-2008, 03:14 PM   #4
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should have thought about that minor detail before registering a domain name with a trademark in it...
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Old 07-29-2008, 03:26 PM   #5
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Hi guys!

I need your help. I own GoldenPalace.us but I don't stop to receive email from lawyer asking to stop using this domain and give the domain name to Godaddy GoldenPalace company account. What you think I need to do about this? Give to domain and that's it?

Regards!
They can ask anything they want... however, since almost every name for a domain is in use, there is going to be overlaps in usage. They don't have the right to it from what I understand... thats why you can get dot comes dot ca s dot tv etc...

You could give it to them or you can hang onto it... Everyone in their dog is going to say their domain is trade marked...

It also depends on your state laws... if you are in a different state and its bi laws on business name usage allows for it I would speak to their offices first and see if they will back you... ( its their job. )

or

Sell it to them for $10,000 and tell them if they did not like it then to go fuck themselves...
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Old 07-29-2008, 03:47 PM   #6
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The big thing here is that I have no money for lawyer if I need to go in court.
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Old 07-29-2008, 03:48 PM   #7
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then what are you expecting?v drop it if you can't keep it.
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Old 07-29-2008, 03:51 PM   #8
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they dont have to buy a trademarked name domain from you. you're squatting. eventually you'll end up giving it to them or the registrar will take it back under court order. just give it up and save yourself the headache.
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Old 07-29-2008, 03:52 PM   #9
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1) .us TM domain registration
2) Considering handing it over to registrar TM owner does not use
3) Posting about it on GFY

And people say the web isn't amusing anymore...
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Old 07-29-2008, 03:52 PM   #10
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They can ask anything they want... however, since almost every name for a domain is in use, there is going to be overlaps in usage. They don't have the right to it from what I understand... thats why you can get dot comes dot ca s dot tv etc...

You could give it to them or you can hang onto it... Everyone in their dog is going to say their domain is trade marked...

It also depends on your state laws... if you are in a different state and its bi laws on business name usage allows for it I would speak to their offices first and see if they will back you... ( its their job. )

or

Sell it to them for $10,000 and tell them if they did not like it then to go fuck themselves...
the name is trademarked. he has no right to it unless he purchased it prior to the trademark and prior art proofed. he didn't register it cuz it was a cool name. he has no right to the trademarked usage of their brand. sadly this is a no win, no negotiation situation he's in.
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Old 07-29-2008, 03:52 PM   #11
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It is a registered trademark in the US.
You pretty much have no chance, and you are guaranteed to go for a long legal battle if you wanted to fight it.
Give it to them and hope they don't ask for damages is what I would do.
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Old 07-29-2008, 03:58 PM   #12
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they dont have to buy a trademarked name domain from you. you're squatting. eventually you'll end up giving it to them or the registrar will take it back under court order. just give it up and save yourself the headache.
That is correct. I just had a friend who went through this. He was lucky to not get sued in the process. I believe it was ICANN that stepped in and took the domain from him and then he had to appear in court for damages, but it was dropped.
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Not to mention its illegal to gamble in the US market, I wouldn't count on the justice system in helping you here.
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Old 07-29-2008, 04:11 PM   #14
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Thank you guys! I gone give them the domain. I have no choice I think. I have buy this domain from Ebay.
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Old 07-29-2008, 04:13 PM   #15
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the name is trademarked. he has no right to it unless he purchased it prior to the trademark and prior art proofed. he didn't register it cuz it was a cool name. he has no right to the trademarked usage of their brand. sadly this is a no win, no negotiation situation he's in.
I understand your point, however, there is a difference between state and federal laws... you could go into one state and find a shop called abcdefg then go in to another state and see the same name at a different business... technically almost everything is trade marked with a few exceptions... all I'm saying is that bigmath should get in contact with his state ran service that deals with business name registration and name usage...

Later,
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Good luck bigmath, you most likely will find a better name...
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Old 07-29-2008, 04:17 PM   #17
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Old 07-29-2008, 05:38 PM   #18
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I understand your point, however, there is a difference between state and federal laws... you could go into one state and find a shop called abcdefg then go in to another state and see the same name at a different business... technically almost everything is trade marked with a few exceptions... all I'm saying is that bigmath should get in contact with his state ran service that deals with business name registration and name usage...

Later,
You do realize that trademarks are federal right?

And, registered at the Library of Congress?

Not something he wants to play with.

I don't think you really understand what you're talking about, respectfully.

Later,

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Old 07-29-2008, 05:41 PM   #19
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I agree give it to them, but uh ya contact someone directly at GoldenPalace.com and make sure it is them doing the request, and not someone scamming you out of the domain.

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Old 07-29-2008, 05:47 PM   #20
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He'll probably lose it anyway.. but...

Is he violating the trademark? Not unless he's using the domain for gambling. Why do you guys always overlook that?
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Old 07-29-2008, 06:16 PM   #22
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Old 07-29-2008, 06:20 PM   #23
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Just ask them it they want to buy it for $100. If you ask for $1000 they will tell you to fuck of and take it. If they don't want it, sell it on ebay. Just don't put anything on you site with anything about gaming.
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Old 07-29-2008, 06:24 PM   #24
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Old 07-29-2008, 06:24 PM   #25
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All the replies you have recieved are WRONG!

GoldenPalace while a trademark for GAMBLING does not entitle them to the domain GoldenPalace.us UNLESS such domain is gambling related as it is diluting their mark and in direct competition in the same area of commerce.

Now, if GoldenPalace.us was the website of say, a chinese restaurant named Golden Palace then goldenpalace.com has no legal ground nor a leg to stand on and has a losing case.

What if GoldenPalace.us was a website about the TV show?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Golden_Palace or even the movie
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0103426/

What if the hotel Golden Palace wanted it?
http://www.thi-hotels.com/hotels/gol...tel-turin.html

tell them to fuck off!

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Old 07-29-2008, 06:25 PM   #26
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Tell them you have a half-eaten grilled cheese with an image of Elvis and Mary. If they are mean to you, you won't sell it to them.
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Old 07-29-2008, 09:52 PM   #31
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GoldenPalace is a chinese food restaurant, a few other things I've seen too..
If you have no poker stuff on the site, tell them to pay up if they want it.

It's not like it's GoldenPalacePoker.us , I'd tell them to make an offer or STFU.
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I'd start building a site on it that has nothing to do with gambling, make it a non commercial educational site on palaces in history that had gilded rooms or something


then I'd wait for their offer
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run it as an affiliate site for their casino. 150/signup is nice $$ and tell them GFY
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run it as an affiliate site for their casino. 150/signup is nice $$ and tell them GFY
I wouldn't bet on those checks arriving.
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That is correct. I just had a friend who went through this. He was lucky to not get sued in the process. I believe it was ICANN that stepped in and took the domain from him and then he had to appear in court for damages, but it was dropped.
Good call Nikki. I don't gamble but would 'bet the farm' on this one.
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