Is "welfare" a code word for "African American"?

[pimplink]

http://www.gomemphis.com/mca/politic...503750,00.html

Interesting article on "playing the race card" and demonology.

Didn't Reagan pioneer the use of "welfare queen"?

[pr0]

rabble rabble

[Sly_RJ]

Originally posted by pr0
rabble rabble

pr0 stop this bull shit and post what you're thinking damnit!

[Honeyslut]

The things the Democrats do for a vote....

[jim manly]

I got an ethnic joke

What is long, black, and stinky?















The unemployment line.

lol

[Plat]

Originally posted by jim manly
I got an ethnic joke

What is long, black, and stinky?














The unemployment line.

lol

har

[dickblast]

i said it in anuther thread many ppl on welfare actually work full time

soon the biggest group of ppl below the poverty line will be children, guess u could say we live in a 'welfare state'

[pimplink]

Originally posted by dickblast
i said it in anuther thread many ppl on welfare actually work full time

soon the biggest group of ppl below the poverty line will be children, guess u could say we live in a 'welfare state'

I agree with your point, most people on welfare are recently divorced white moms with kids.

However, the point of the original thread was how the Democratic party was setting up Republicans for their usage of the term "welfare". Kinda disingenuous since Democrats pull all sorts of funky tricks too.... see the Simon v. Davis campaign in California.

[playa]

welfare is like the most fucked up system to help the poor,
basically it ruined the whole standard family structure
ever since it started,,

it pretty much said you get more money for more kids
and you get less money if you get married

[LUCL0NELY]

Did I tell you that before?

[pr0]

Originally posted by pimplink

I agree with your point, most people on welfare are recently divorced white moms with kids.

Incorrect, your statement has no statistical backing whatsoever.

[pr0]

Originally posted by playa
welfare is like the most fucked up system to help the poor,
basically it ruined the whole standard family structure
ever since it started,,

it pretty much said you get more money for more kids
and you get less money if you get married

Exactly...and more kids means more voters for those who support no change in the welfare system in the future.

[.:Frog:.]

The government should just hire anyone wanting welfare and give them a job doing something. That way they get support, but are doing work at the same time. Like cleaning up the streets, sorting recycling material or whatever.

That way legit people needing support can get it, and the lazy fucks trying to the screw the system won't be able to avoid working.

Not all welfare is bad, but there is too much abuse and scammers taking advantage of the system.

[pimplink]

Originally posted by pr0


Incorrect, your statement has no statistical backing whatsoever.

Sorry to burst your bubble, pr0: http://www.korpios.org/resurgent/L-welfareblack.htm

[Fletch XXX]

im on welfare right now.

[Bobo]

Originally posted by jim manly
I got an ethnic joke

What is long, black, and stinky?

The unemployment line.

lol

Here's a link to sites I think you'll enjoy:
http://www.paneuronet.org/activism.html

[Funkito]

"Welfare" is what poor people get from the government so they can eat and not have to live in a Pinto parked on the street. Yeah, some of them are fucked and will never get a job. Doesn't bother me.

"Tax reform" is what rich-ass motherfuckers get from the government so they can buy a fourth vacation home in Jackson Hole. Bothers me.

Which one do you think costs more and screws society more?



BTW-My first post. Whatsup y'all...

[Sly_RJ]

Originally posted by Funkito
"Welfare" is what poor people get from the government so they can eat and not have to live in a Pinto parked on the street. Yeah, some of them are fucked and will never get a job. Doesn't bother me.

"Tax reform" is what rich-ass motherfuckers get from the government so they can buy a fourth vacation home in Jackson Hole. Bothers me.

Which one do you think costs more and screws society more?



BTW-My first post. Whatsup y'all...

And of those two groups of people, which do you think fuels charities? Creates museums? Gives money for parks and national monuments? Set up college scholarships? Buys books for libraries?

[Bobo]

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

And of those two groups of people, which do you think fuels charities? Creates museums? Gives money for parks and national monuments? Set up college scholarships? Buys books for libraries?

The government in conjunction with working class people and college students fuel all of it.

Even if the wealthy were solely the ones responsible for the charities and museums, wouldn't you agree they're obligated to? Considering the tax breaks they get and the inordinate amount of money that they earn which they couldn't find ways to spend in a 100 years. Shame and guilt alone should tell them to.

And from what has come to light in the worldcom and enron scandals, we can argue that many wealthy people didn't even earn their wealth. In a sense they're the largest welfare recipients.

[Undutchable]

Some of this is seriously fucked up... Anyone else not digging the ethnic jokes? Ohwell

[Sly_RJ]

Originally posted by Bobo


The government in conjunction with working class people and college students fuel all of it.

Bull shit. Working class people could care less about art museums. And the government can hardly pay for proper education, now you're telling me they pay the bulk for these projects? Yes, they do contribute money for the arts, but nothing even close to what's required.

Do I feel they're obligated? Hell no. As decent people, yes I do think they should contribute money and resources to various projects that they find interest in. I would do exactly that. But I'll never EXPECT them to. How can you expect someone else to do something with their money that has no direct benefit to themselves?

[<IMX>]

Sly_RJ--
So, by your own logic, exactly how do these working class people benefit from public goods such as the arts etc.?
As you have said, "Working class people could care less about art museums."

Just wondering, have you studied these things?

[Sly_RJ]

Originally posted by <IMX>
Sly_RJ--
So, by your own logic, exactly how do these working class people benefit from public goods such as the arts etc.?
As you have said, "Working class people could care less about art museums."

Just wondering, have you studied these things?

Many of the arts don't, in my opinion. Art museums, for the most part, bore me considerably. I'm sure a select group of people does enjoy them though. They're public though, that was my point. And the art museums, specifically, wasn't my point. National monuments, parks, libraries, scholarships, charities... the working class people do use each of those, right?

[jqw736145]

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

pr0 stop this bull shit and post what you're thinking damnit!

pr0 thinks the Simpsons are pro-NRA

[Funkito]

And of those two groups of people, which do you think fuels charities? Creates museums? Gives money for parks and national monuments? Set up college scholarships? Buys books for libraries?

Government does more for parks, monuments, education, libraries, medical research, and tons of other public good than charities or tax-cuts for the rich ever have or will. There's tons of examples. I've only met a few millionaires in my life--but in general I'd say that their wealth came from a combination of work, luck, educational advantage, and they found a way to "get in front of the money" basically. That's not including the fortunes that comes from criminal shit or ripping off public resources--which is more common than a lot of people want to believe. There's this idea floated around that the wealthy are virtuous, beneficent and more trustworthy than big, bad government. I don't buy that at all.

Anyways, a long discussion that could go on forever. Back to the original topic: yeah, "welfare" is a code word for black folks. It's all about scaring middle-class, suburban swing voters into voting for the right-wing. That way they can pass more tax cuts for the rich, reduce regulation of white-collar crime, and other BS methods of screwing the public. Reagonomics is and always has been a swindle--government spending never really goes down...it just stops going to people who need it the most.

Whatever...

[Mr.Fiction]

If anyone here doesn't know that Republicans play the race card more than Dems, they are just trying not to see it. One of the main platforms of the Republican party, and talk radio, is that Republicans will protect you from poor people and immigrants.

That means, to many people, that Republicans will protect them from minorities - non whites.

In the Simon vs. Davis campaign, there have been far more dirty tricks by Simon than by Davis. If you don't believe that it's simply because you are blind.

Bill Simon lied and tried to accuse Davis of a felony during several press conferences. It turned out that it was a lie, and Simon is now being sued for it. He even had to admit that he was lying, only he called it "a mistake". A jury found that Simon had committed fraud while running his company. Then a conservative appointed judge conveniently reversed the jury decision a few months before the election. Simon's television ads are full of lies and misinformation.

If you are in California, and you even think about voting for anyone but Davis, you are a complete idiot. Simon is a criminal and a right wing religious fanatic loser who will do everything he can to fuck up California in the name of making money for his pals, and Jesus.

[SleazyDream]

unfortunatly in canada welfare mean native.

most of the black guys I know have 6 and 7 figgure annual net incomes.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

Working class people could care less about art museums.

That's simply, not true.

[ColKurtz]

come on, the democrats live for the race card. They have blacks so convinced that anyone with a conservative thought is a white devil that wants them shipped back to africa or something. Over 90% in the last election voted democrat.

No other racial group votes as one sided as that.

[Bobo]

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
If anyone here doesn't know that Republicans play the race card more than Dems, they are just trying not to see it. One of the main platforms of the Republican party, and talk radio, is that Republicans will protect you from poor people and immigrants.

That means, to many people, that Republicans will protect them from minorities - non whites.

In the Simon vs. Davis campaign, there have been far more dirty tricks by Simon than by Davis. If you don't believe that it's simply because you are blind.

Bill Simon lied and tried to accuse Davis of a felony during several press conferences. It turned out that it was a lie, and Simon is now being sued for it. He even had to admit that he was lying, only he called it "a mistake". A jury found that Simon had committed fraud while running his company. Then a conservative appointed judge conveniently reversed the jury decision a few months before the election. Simon's television ads are full of lies and misinformation.

If you are in California, and you even think about voting for anyone but Davis, you are a complete idiot. Simon is a criminal and a right wing religious fanatic loser who will do everything he can to fuck up California in the name of making money for his pals, and Jesus.

All true. Immigration for Republicans is code word for 'anti-minority'. Borderline racist sentiments.

[Bobo]

Originally posted by ColKurtz
come on, the democrats live for the race card. They have blacks so convinced that anyone with a conservative thought is a white devil that wants them shipped back to africa or something. Over 90% in the last election voted democrat.

No other racial group votes as one sided as that.

If the conservatives decided to put away the white sheets and burning crosses, black voters opinions of them might change.

[ColKurtz]

So everyone that believes in conservative politics is a KKK member ?

The reason blacks vote so one sided is because they are an easily taken advantage of people.

Its quite simple really. Why do race baitors like Jesse Jackson get so much play in the liberal dominated media. Because he convinces blacks that whitey keeps them down, and that leads to votes for democrats.

Its a beautiful thing for the democrats to have such firm control over a group of people.

[Mr.Fiction]

Originally posted by ColKurtz

The reason blacks vote so one sided is because they are an easily taken advantage of people.

Classic case of proving the point you're arguing against.

[PornoDoggy]

I would never laugh at an ethinic joke that Eddie Murphy wouldn't tell about black people. It is amusing to see the stupid things people think ... whether it's all conservatives are KKK members, or that the liberal-media-Democrats have the black vote only becasue they keep convincing them they are oppressed. So far in this thread I haven't read a single opinion that I couldn't have heard in 1970.

I love the assumption that only blacks get welfare, however. I live in a county that is probably 98% whitebread, and it's got one of the highest percentages of people on some form of public assistance in the state. Out here, the candidates spend their advertising money on proving that they are more anti-big-city than the other guy.

Yes ... both parties play the race card in different ways. That is about as much of a newsflash as "Truman beats Dewey."

[Bobo]

Originally posted by ColKurtz
So everyone that believes in conservative politics is a KKK member ?

The reason blacks vote so one sided is because they are an easily taken advantage of people.

Its quite simple really. Why do race baitors like Jesse Jackson get so much play in the liberal dominated media. Because he convinces blacks that whitey keeps them down, and that leads to votes for democrats.

Its a beautiful thing for the democrats to have such firm control over a group of people.

No, most of them are not likely kkk members but one cannot deny the obvious racial undertones within that party.

It's much more politically correct in 2000 to say "let's reform our immigration policies and close our borders" than it is to say "we don't want any more Chinese, Spics, ******s and other Mongrel 'Mud People' coming here." They're quite effective using this strategy.

[Marc De]

I saw a number of times people commenting on 'tax breaks' for the rich. I don't know about everyone in my tax bracket but I know of quite a few that paid the same ~44% tax that I did. I also know of quite a few folks who earned significantly less than me that paid ~32% tax - Where is this advantage or break?

The US needs to go to a FLAT taxation system. If anything they penalize tax payers the more they make.

[jimmyf]

Originally posted by .:Frog:.

Not all welfare is bad, but there is too much abuse and scammers taking advantage of the system.

This is so true...

[Indeed]

Originally posted by pimplink


Sorry to burst your bubble, pr0: http://www.korpios.org/resurgent/L-welfareblack.htm

White 38.8%
Black 37.2

Ok but what is the % of white and black people in America? Aren't there more whites? If yes, it means there is a greater % of black people on welfare.

[pimplink]

Discounting the diatribe, you are correct. The statistics re voting are way skewed.

Interesting how the Republican party lost the black vote since the Republicans are the party of Lincoln and the abolitionists who fought hard for black post Civil War rights.

Originally posted by ColKurtz
come on, the democrats live for the race card. They have blacks so convinced that anyone with a conservative thought is a white devil that wants them shipped back to africa or something. Over 90% in the last election voted democrat.

No other racial group votes as one sided as that.

[GoLiaT]

do you rather have all those wellfare people running around
with a "nothing to loose" attitude when they kill you for 50 bucks ?

[pimplink]

Originally posted by Marc De
I saw a number of times people commenting on 'tax breaks' for the rich. I don't know about everyone in my tax bracket but I know of quite a few that paid the same ~44% tax that I did. I also know of quite a few folks who earned significantly less than me that paid ~32% tax - Where is this advantage or break?

The US needs to go to a FLAT taxation system. If anything they penalize tax payers the more they make.

Too true. Actually, the government will collect MORE revenues via a flat tax because there will be less loopholes. There will be less bullshit tax shelters and offshore tax haven scams.

[jimmyf]

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
If anyone here doesn't know that Republicans play the race card more than Dems, they are just trying not to see it. One of the main platforms of the Republican party, and talk radio, is that Republicans will protect you from poor people and immigrants.

That means, to many people, that Republicans will protect them from minorities - non whites.

In the Simon vs. Davis campaign, there have been far more dirty tricks by Simon than by Davis. If you don't believe that it's simply because you are blind.

Bill Simon lied and tried to accuse Davis of a felony during several press conferences. It turned out that it was a lie, and Simon is now being sued for it. He even had to admit that he was lying, only he called it "a mistake". A jury found that Simon had committed fraud while running his company. Then a conservative appointed judge conveniently reversed the jury decision a few months before the election. Simon's television ads are full of lies and misinformation.

If you are in California, and you even think about voting for anyone but Davis, you are a complete idiot. Simon is a criminal and a right wing religious fanatic loser who will do everything he can to fuck up California in the name of making money for his pals, and Jesus.

I live in California both of these ass holes have lied there ass's off... Not just Simon.. *BOTH* Davis has this sate so FUCKED up. he should go to jail *RAT* now. Am not going to vote for Davis nor Simon... Both are *BIG* time fucking *CROOKS* if Simon stole and cheated people in business Daves has stole and lied to the poople *WHILE IN OFFICE* it's still not publie what contract's Davis signed with the (*BIG BUSINESS POWER COMPANY'S*) and won't be until the PIn Head get's out of office... Don't go telling people there are an idoit if they do not vote for a lieing scum bag. he gave some other *BIG BUSINESS's* A FREE PASS ON Haz. Material dumping. The school's are all fucked up, because he kiss's the teacher's Union *ASS*. Davis is a Dip Shit Moron that won't even do a interview unless you tell him the exact questions before hand. I could on with this shit for a fucking month about Davis the Dip Shit Moron... but the Series is starting..

[jimmyf]

Originally posted by ColKurtz
come on, the democrats live for the race card. They have blacks so convinced that anyone with a conservative thought is a white devil that wants them shipped back to africa or something. Over 90% in the last election voted democrat.

No other racial group votes as one sided as that.

You hit right on.. The blacks have been voting for democrats over 50 years. They just keep promising them
the same dam things over and over... When they don't get what has been promised the democrats tell them *were working* on it and have been telling them this for over 50 years . And getting away with it... They have *most* of the black's in this country so dumbed down it should be a crime.

[Bobo]

Originally posted by pimplink
Interesting how the Republican party lost the black vote since the Republicans are the party of Lincoln and the abolitionists who fought hard for black post Civil War rights.

It may be interesting but not surprising. A Republican in Lincoln's time bears little resemblance to a Republican of today.

[Bobo]

Originally posted by jimmyf
You hit right on.. The blacks have been voting for democrats over 50 years. They just keep promising them
the same dam things over and over... When they don't get what has been promised the democrats tell them *were working* on it and have been telling them this for over 50 years . And getting away with it... They have *most* of the black's in this country so dumbed down it should be a crime.

You may be right. I'm not familiar enough with your political system to make a judgement but it does seem very skewed with respect to black votes.

[jimmyf]

Originally posted by pimplink


Too true. Actually, the government will collect MORE revenues via a flat tax because there will be less loopholes. There will be less bullshit tax shelters and offshore tax haven scams.

Am 58 years old and I will never see a Flat tax.. You are right though we should have one... The IRS *Union* is way 2 power full
for us to be getting a flat tax any time in the near furure. yes I said IRS Union... Check sometimes how many people work for the IRS.... One hell of a lot of votes... Falt Tax = a whole lot less IRS jobs.

[jimmyf]

Originally posted by Bobo


You may be right. I'm not familiar enough with your political system to make a judgement but it does seem very skewed with respect to black votes.

You are correct. But they keep telling them the same stuff and they do not deliver... Oh they will deliver a Jesse Jackson to tell them how to vote. And guess were Jesse Jackson get's his money from the Fed. Gov. grant's and any other way he can steal it. Jesse Jackson has NO job and lives like a little king... on my god dam money...

[pimplink]

Originally posted by jimmyf
You are correct. But they keep telling them the same stuff and they do not deliver... Oh they will deliver a Jesse Jackson to tell them how to vote. And guess were Jesse Jackson get's his money from the Fed. Gov. grant's and any other way he can steal it. Jesse Jackson has NO job and lives like a little king... on my god dam money...

Do you think it will change as more African Americans become middle to upper class? There are quite a bit of Black Conservatives getting famous lately--Larry Elder, Ward Connerly, Collin Powell....these guys think Jesse Jackson is a clown.

[Mr.Fiction]

Originally posted by pimplink


Do you think it will change as more African Americans become middle to upper class? There are quite a bit of Black Conservatives getting famous lately--Larry Elder, Ward Connerly, Collin Powell....these guys think Jesse Jackson is a clown.

Let's hope that more non-white-males do join the Republican party. A more diverse Republican party would be great. The more progressive Republicans could try to wrestle control from the old guard and move the party forward.

[Bobo]

Originally posted by jimmyf
You are correct. But they keep telling them the same stuff and they do not deliver... Oh they will deliver a Jesse Jackson to tell them how to vote. And guess were Jesse Jackson get's his money from the Fed. Gov. grant's and any other way he can steal it. Jesse Jackson has NO job and lives like a little king... on my god dam money...

I agree. Jesse Jackson is a degenerate. I don't know why he is the one supposedly representing blacks in the US.