Well, firstly I'm not a though muslim. Most of some guys here know the history and koran better than me. That story is not like I know. I've never heard that they killed woman and children. Anyway I'm defending that muslims has to be in piece. Koran is in this way. I'll ask to experts about these war paragraphs. I'm really not an expert. I'm very sorry for the muslims doing these kind of terror attacts. I'm really afraid of world's future. We are all talking about and defending piece here and we must not fire ourselves. Of course every country has to find and punish these terrorists, even the countries that hides them.

It's not just the sniper today. Just look at those muslim fucks in Moscow today. Ohh those poor muslims.I just hope, they woke up Russian Bear. Russians should finish Chechnya.

Every story has two sides. This one does too. The jews in this specific case lived in Medina which was a Muslim town and they had declared loyalty to Mohammad. So then they betray his ass and he's thinking of what to do with them. Other tribes that betrayed him were banished, so they knew what faith awaited them. However, they asked for bin Mu'adh's intercession, and to their surprise he came up with this bitch ass of a death sentence for the men of the tribe. Still fucking brutal but it's questionable to blame Islamic religion for something some arab guy said that wasnt even a prophet or anything. Ohwell, fuck it, Im not saying Muslims back then were cuties, and the terrorists were facing now are even bigger assholes, but the point remains that mainstream Muslims are cool people to be around with, like I said before I've never had any problems with em. Im not talking about the orthodox mofos but the regular joe's of Islam (or Ahmeds in their case :) ) are not bad folks

Just my :2 cents:

go fuck yourself.

'kill them all and let God sort them out'

Ya and I'm a Muslim therefore I am a terrorist and belong in the demons and dragons part of the world and must be "evil" *lol*
For fucks sake take your blinkers off and stop feeling "superior" - tis an indiction of utter ignornace! Sheesh! *lol*

drew:

'kill them all and let God sort them out'

Yea.. would expect a comment like that from a total ignoramous:-)
By the way was thinking that Middle School might be a little advanced.. so was suggesting to your Momma that she make French cheese fingers slices for ya and hand feed you - then maybe take you for a run in that Clio :Graucho

next time I need a new dvd player I'll start a political flaming thread as well. :thumbsup

this sin't politics this is a wacky religion.:Graucho

Webby
Why dont you do something useful and go fuck yourself. hehehe

shooting muslims is fun :BangBang:

Yes it is. I had that pleasure 10 years ago during the first Gulf war.

In one of his tv specials, George Carlin said, "More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason in history." Kinda makes one pause...

Hmmm... orthodox seems to be the problem here. In the religious world, "orthodox" equates to "take all the little pieces you choose from your good book, add a couple of nasty twists, wrap it all up in a stinking little mess, tie a bow around it, and call it a 'back to basics' form of your religion. Then go forth, create havoc (and death, if that's on your agenda), and hide behind your "orthodox" views." Religion is always a good excuse to impose your belief system on someone else... by force, if necessary.

Not being a person who practices a "god-based" religion, I find it very disturbing that so many people around the world are willing to blindly accept and live by (and distort) ancient words in a book simply because "that's the way it's always been done". Which is not to say I believe all Muslims or Catholics are "bad"... just misguided. :)

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Originally posted by Colin


They'd kill all of us infidels if they could.
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:thumbsup

Originally posted by drew


Can you imagine few B-52's over Mecca.
Now that would be interesting.
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No contest... much less a world war 3

I totally aggree with you :thumbsup that's the best post in this issue.

The sad thing is we'll see more Muslim heads stuck in the sand. Already, a Muslim leader who knew this guy has said, "Oh, no, he could never do that!" Just like the Egyptian Muslims who refuse to accept the fact that that Egyptian pilot committed suicide by taking a plane full of people down into the ocean. If they think it's against the Koran, then a lot of Muslims will go into denial and say it just didn't happen, or that there's a conspiracy blame a Muslim.

I'd like to hear a Muslim say, "You know, just like Christianity, there are different ways of interpreting our scriptures, and some Muslims interpret them to permit the killing of innocent people in the name of Allah."

Yes, I'm afraid but you are right. Some muslims thing that they are killing in the name of God and this makes me sick :(

you are talking like nazis, don't forget that you have done this to save other muslims and petrolium.

Yep and if they keep fucking around we will just go take ALL the dam oil and tell'm to :321GFY well may be give'm 2 bucks a barrel. Hell with out us they wouldn't have know there was such a thing as oil.

This fuckwad has about as much to do with Islam as 12clucks does. He was going to go on a shooting rampage at some point, even if it was over runny eggs at a diner some morning.

damn! could this thread get any more posts?

only if you want me to win a DVD player.:1orglaugh

Hell, that's EXACTLY what I'm saying. But in this case, it's US events so, I believe US media are biased.

IF there's a french or europeen events, I believe their media will be biased.

More in USA, but that just my opinion.

If I had 2 hours to waste to go back into the 911 archives, sure. Read what I wrote to CDSmith - It's not only an US issue, but this topic is all about terrorists. Including all muslims, or different cultures as fuckers is beyond me. No american in this thread said to 12clicks to go fuck himself.

There are plenty of people who think that associating all muslims with terrorism is one of the true sign of being a moron, and a number of them have probably posted in this thread. Arguing with narrow minded bigotry is just kind of pointless, you know?

IT?S A SIMPLE EQUATION: DRUGS = TERRORISM

This is a little different from my usual rants ? a prefer to call it SCATHING SOCIAL COMMENTARY. Really, I only include this because I called it a long, long time ago ? I knew this was happening ? and this is just more proof it?s not ALWAYS good to be right!

?We must rout out and destroy all of the terrorist training camps?blah, blah, blah? was the mantra of defiant President George Bush against all knucklehead, wannabe, suicide bombers everywhere! ?We must cut these terrorists off wherever they will train?blah, blah, blah?? ? well we might not be liking some of the places that they are training and we will be bombing?.WHY? BECAUSE WE?LL BE BOMBING OURSELVES ? WE BUILD A NEW ONE EVERY TIME WE BUILD A PRISON!

You?ve seen the anti drug jargon, some kid smoking a joint, all cute, saying, ?Today I helped hijack a plane and fly it into a building??, ?Today I plotted to kill 100 million people just for the sheer pleasure of it??, ?Today I took a hit of X and baked up a fresh batch of small pox so the world's population will die by tremendous life sucking boils on their skin?? - somehow in a desperate attempt to correlate a link between drugs and terrorism. You know where drugs get you, right? JAILS, INSTITUTIONS, AND DEATH! But, let?s focus on the jails?do you know what prison really is? THE BEST, MOST WELL OILED TERRORIST TRAINING CAMP IN THE WORLD?and you, my tax paying Americans, are footing the bill for it.

The whole ? ?Drugs = Terrorism? has always seemed like a really, really long stretch to me. Even the stupidest, brainwashed, propaganda zombie can see that. I?ve done drugs my whole life, and never once consider a career in terror. I?ve smoked pot and gotten the munchies. Taken acid and laughed till my throat hurt. I done rolls and liked people I normally wouldn?t even care for. I never robbed anyone, EVEN WHEN I RAN OUT! You know, come to think of it ? the evilest thoughts I?ve ever had were on Alcohol ? AND THAT?S LEGAL ? DAMN! But somehow, my financial contribution to the consumer end of the dope game means that I MUST stay awake nights working on my dirty bomb??!! Hell no! Personally I wish these towelheads would chill the fuck out!! I wish everybody would!

I case that AntiDrug commercial didn?t make it obvious enough, I?ll show you that you don?t need to fold up a 20$ bill to see the obvious connection between drugs and terrorism. Here is a startling graphic illustration that I made to illustrate exactly how it all works:


The only time I?ve had antisocial thoughts of such a magnitude is when this one time I DID GET CAUGHT WITH SOME DRUGS and bunch of UPTIGHT, ANTIDRUG, PROFIT MONGER ZOMIES decided I HAD TO PAY and SENT ME TO PRISON! I tell you, while I was locked up for some stupid minor drug offense; I sure as hell had some seriously unpatriotic anti-governmental thoughts. Now we find out ?the Dirty Bomb Guy? was recruited to Alqueda while in jail. Well, duh? I saw that one coming a long time ago, and I?ve done drugs ? a lot of them ? SO I AM NOT THE SHARPEST PENCIL IN THE BOX!

See, to be able recruit someone to be that much of an asshole, you must rely on certain conditions which you will find are FOR SURE most prevalent in this nation?s correctional facilities. Here are some of terrorism?s #1 job qualifications:


1. MUST HAVE AN INCLINATION TOWARD A LIFE OF CRIME...duh?


2. MUST HAVE AN INTENSE HATRED FOR AMERICAN GOVERNMENT AND SOCIETY: At the risk of sounding redundant?well duh? It?s where society sends its failures. Why bother to try to work your way back into the club that just put you on time out when?YOU CAN JUST KILL THEM!!



3. MUST BE SEEKING RELIGION: There will never be seen such an upstanding group of loyal churchgoers as what can be seen behind the prison walls. EVERYONE finds God up in that bitch. Christ lord, they do?if you can find Jesus, can?t you just as easily, find Allah? Of course you can. All of there Godless dregs seeking spirituality are perfect fodder for the grand scheme of the Muslim hard-line.


4. YOU WILL NEED A JOB WHEN YOU GET OUT OF HERE: We all know the prison population is not the most upwardly mobile bunch?what are they going to do when you get out? It?s even a condition of your probation that you have a job. Why not take an offer with a high profile international company, like Alqueda, who will be happy to change your identity, send you back to school, and is NOT going to hold your past against you?


5. IGNORANCE AND LACK OF EDUCATION ARE A PLUS: There are not too many Harvard alum in the Graybar motel right now?not because they don?t commit crime?because they have the money to get out of it. Thus, leaving the prison population a bunch of uneducated dregs that can be easily influenced!


6. WE LOVE TO LOCK US BLACK FOLKS: A black man leads the nation of Islam. OK? Who are the terrorists? Islamic. I mean - Faricon IS an idiot, AND I doubt he?s involved in this shit, BUT you HAVE TO CONSIDER what I said in #5!



When I was locked up was when I first learned a lot about Osma Bin Laden, from reading his Newsweek cover story. Even back in 1999, he was the most wanted man in the world, I bet you didn?t know that. I remember, then saying, ?God, what a dickhead?? only to immediately have to endure diatribes from some of the population?s more ignorant segments about how ?He was a Hero?? and ?Was Standing up to the United States???I wonder if on September 11th they were still saying the same thing? I?m sure all of them still didn?t mean it by then?but hey Osma?there?s you demographic ? you?ve got the best shot with them! You?ll get them before the Baptists and the Catholics?and how did they get there? Drugs? Wait a minute I thought drugs funded terrorism? Maybe you guys are right! You just created and perpetuated your own problem, and now - it?s everybody?s problem! It?s too bad it doesn?t just further show what a bunch of stupid narrow-minded idiots you are!!



It?s this kind of logic, that is so ingrained in the consciousness of the ?powers that be?, that will ultimately be our undoing. Yes, it?s a sad state of affairs when I?M THE ONLY ONE MAKING ANY SENSE. This shit has been going on for to long for you to stop it. You want to destroy terrorist training camps? Start in your own backyard, stop coping out that people?s past drug problems and the source of America current terrorism problems, go out to the mailbox, and send yourself some anthrax America- you deserve it!

For more information on great places to get locked up in Geogia, please visit:
http://www.liquored-up.com/editorials/good_ole_boys.htm
http://www.liquored-up.com/editorials/bootcamp.htm

Luckily these people generally sdon't count in this world. :)

Associating all muslims with terrorism is the logical conclusion when non- muslims are being killed in ALL parts of the world by muslims simply because they aren't muslims.
Muslim terrorists kill civilians.
Where is the indignation and outrage from the so-called peaceful muslims?
IT DOESN'T EXIST because, as the more intelligent of us know, they condone terrorism and murder.

When Americans go to other contries and kill people, what happends to them when they return to the US?
They're arrested, stand trial, and go to jail for life.
When a muslim goes to another country and kills someone, they are treated like a hero of God when they return.
You morons who buy the muslim lip service that they are peaceful only delay the actions that must be taken to defend ourselves from this scum.

Nobody kills non-muslims because of they are not muslims, this is crazy. They are all doing this for their stupid missions.


You are wrong, this can be true on the countries that feeds terrorism, but not on most of the muslim countries including mine. I live in Turkey and we have aggrements with most of the world for crime. If a Turk kills someone he/she is never a hero here. If he/she arrested we judge him here. A killer can't be a hero. But for example a Kurdish woman wanted to kill the richest civil person in Turkey, she couldn't do that at the moment and killed his brother, than escaped to Belgium. But now Belgium didn't give her back to us. This is shame.

Anyway DO NOT speak generally for muslims. Speak specific for the countries that feed terrorism like Iraq, Iran, Syria, Libya. They are our neighbours and it's really HARD to live with them even we are muslims because of they are hiding our terrorists too.

Turkey as a muslim country allied of US, also in NATO. Our army joined the allied forces on Afghanistan and our army is commander now. Also allied forces used our airports and army on Iraq war. Some other muslim countries joined this also. So read more and don't blame this on all muslims. A lot of people getting killed everyday because they are black, white, woman, man, etc... This has no difference. These are terrorists, they are rich, buy guns from US or Russia.

You can still step up if you wish. Usually when people have a comment such as yours they have examples to back it up. Otherwise it is a pretty empty statement. Can you back up your statement with anything other than your word?

Associating all Muslims with terrorism is a "logical conclusion" only if you are predisposed to the view in the first place. I can understand the appeal to the simple-minded, however; grasping difficult concepts of historical, cultural, and geopolitical conflcts does take a certain amount of mental effort that some can't make, and others simply aren't willing to make.

If I can add my supreme intellectual comments to this thread,

FUCK MUSLIMS.

yet you persist with your dopey explainations trying to sway those of us that understand the reality of it. give up already.:1orglaugh

oh, and Turkey is a puppet of the US. They are doing it for the money.
Left to their own devices, they would not do as they do. :)

The other muslim countries do it for money too.

Look at saudi arabia. their entire country hates the US, they export their terrorism and then lie to us with a strait face. Our dopey polititions believe it.

sad but true.

kman - I would expect nothing less from you;-)

The main theme here is not about country politics, this is about human being. Open your mind, nore me or nore any muslims I know want to kill somebody for the name of God. Actually I've never met with somebody that wants this. I do not need money from US, I'm already earning half million in a year from my adult sites. It's not about money. We don't like saudia arabia either. Most of the arabs to the same to Turkey. These are just a bunch of psycho people that hides in the name of God. We all know no country is perfect and made some mistakes in the past and some still doing. But to fight with the terrorism every country must be allies.

12Clicks, You're a cock smoker! It's you that looks like a total fuck in this thread. You are a hate monger and I find it very ironic that you are pointing at something you see as the problem when it's you that is the real enemy. If you're trying to get a DVD player or something by starting your hateful thread, then you really are a man with no merit...I'm sorry a boy with no merit... :feels-hot

PD - you're right. I think what 12 Clicks meant to say was "WAY TOO MANY Muslims are terrorists".

No, Colin, I doubt very seriously that's what 12clucks meant to say. That kind of distinction requires a level of intellect that I've never seen him display. Third graders usually are very black and white in their observations of the world.

And 12clucks - you can laugh all you want. I am certainly not trying to convince you of anything - I'm not sure I know enough one syllable words to do that. You see, I don't waste my breath talking to bigots, let alone trying to convince them of anything. They tend not to listen to anyone but there own kind, anyway.

I think Islamic terrorism needs to be dealt with, and I don't mean by negotiation, either. I can understand why Muslims everywhere would be concerned that redneck, no-brained bubbas would see this as a war on all of Islam. IMHO, anyone who thinks we can negotiate with Sadam Hussein ought to personally go over there and try it, but read a little European history from 1936-1939 first. Anyone who thinks we should "understand" the concerns of the likes of al Qiada and their ilk with anything other than the full force and fury of U.S. might is a moron.

Kind of like the morons who think this is a war on Islam.

oh no! what will I ever do now that chichi and porndodgy think I'm a red neck hate monger????
The horror!
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

porndodgy, go out and find a poll where the people of ANY muslim country have a favorable opinion of the US.

go prove your point you moronic halfwit.

when muslims refuse to separate themselves from muslim terrorists, there's no reason for *me* to separate them

please you intellectual you, go find where ANY muslim people like the US.

Your no different than any other halfwit who screams bigot when their afraid of the truth.:1orglaugh

There is a Muslim right here in this board going out on a limb by even posting here just to seperate himself from terrorists. Why don't you think there are more like him?

First of all, I am proud to be called a moron by the likes of you.

I will try and use as many short words as I can. I don't think that "polls" show Muslims have a bad opinion of the U.S. means a fucking thing, and it certainly does not mean they support terrorism. You are the moron here, 12clucks, not me. You are the one twisting the Arab/Islamic perception of the U.S., and that this ex-grunt sniper calls himself a Muslim, into a hatred of all things Islamic - a hatred I'm sure you share for anything and everthing the least bit different from your little white-bread norm. I would imagine that you and I would like to see the same things done to the Islamic fundamentalists that attacked the United States. I don't happen to agree with you (or Falwell) in that this is a modern-day crusade against the heathens. If that makes me a moron in your book, I'm very happy about it.

Your little rant about "Turkey is a puppet of the US" proves how little you actually know. Turkey's been struggling for 80+ years to build a secular state in an Islamic country. They have been tryng to buld a secular state and have fighting Islamic fundamentalists since before you or I ever heard the term.

I'm far more wary of half-wits who proclaim they know "truth" than I am of people who scream bigot ...

Oh, com'on... Are you sure they really know, who he is ??? I don't believe that kind of stuff...

porndoogy, I didn't think you could find any polls on muslims siding with your idea. :1orglaugh

Now you can spend all day pretending to be a bright guy but at the end of the day I judge my mind by the station in life it achieved for me and conversely, I judge yours by your station in life. :1orglaugh
the rantings of a porndoogy from his one bedroom apartment don't carry much wieght. :1orglaugh

Somebody screamed 'bigot?'

Somehow I knew you'd slip off into something as irrelevant and erroneous as your perception of my "station in life," sixclucks. I'm not sure what your opinion of Islam has to do with the station in life you've achieved, either, unless it's earned you points in the Bubba club. As far as your opinion that I live in a one bedroom apartment, well, you can believe what you want; right now I wish I fucking did, because I wouldn't have to repair a garage door and re-roof two porches. I'm sure you make more money than me, impress more crack whores than me, suck up, er, know more important people in the business than me, and are far and away a more "manly man" than I can ever hope to be. I'll concede all of that, if it will make you feel better.

Now, if we can return to the issue we were discussing, did you read what I wrote? If you can't, just find somebody who can read it to you. I'm not at all concerned with what "polling data" you cite shows, and I sure as hell didn't waste any time looking for it. The "polling data" is irrelevant, and is a pretty weak argument even for you. Islamic perception of America is related to what many people look at as the blank check we give Israel, the Shah we imposed upon Iran, and like activities. It was established long before the so-called war on terror or the need to take out the current government of Iraq.

JIHAD!!!


:eek7

some dude started some gfy attack thread and it's 7 pages already, no player for twelve clickies =)