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Undutchable 10-24-2002 08:29 AM

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Originally posted by DjSap


You can't judge all followers based on the orginal scriptures but you most certainly can judge the religion itself...

Agree with you there.

Even with that said, though, we must not forget about the benefits that religion has brought to the world. Sure, a lot of bad effects have been seen, and there are issues in old scriptures that almost noone in the modern world agrees with but that doesn't mean the remaining 90% of these religions that dont deal with violence but rather with good manners and such are worthless..

Again, I'm not saying the fucked up stuff isnt there or that it isn't as fucked up as we all agree on that it is, but we shouldn't let that dominate our general view of the religion. An even better point is that the bad elements of these religions have been largely removed from the followers of the religions, so there's not much to worry as long as we DONT tell eachother that the only good member of another religion/group/race is a dead one...

Just my :2 cents:

drew 10-24-2002 08:30 AM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
one sniper causes major panic in a whole state

500 snipers,10 in each state what can cause?

Can you imagine few B-52's over Mecca.
Now that would be interesting.

CDSmith 10-24-2002 08:30 AM

Ahhh, a morning with 12clicks...... nothing better, not even the paper. Well, this coffee is pretty good, but nothing compares to a good old fashioned "kill all muslims" thread. :thumbsup

Undutchable 10-24-2002 08:31 AM

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Originally posted by drew


Can you imagine few B-52's over Mecca.
Now that would be interesting.

No, that would be world war 3

SR 10-24-2002 08:32 AM

Muslims simply don't fit in the west.
Their way of living and religion is too different from our standards.
I'm not saying all but most better just go back to where they came from.

They say that we brought them here to do the dirty work. Okay we did but that didn't mean that they could stay forever and let their whole family come over and stay.

Chris R 10-24-2002 08:34 AM

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Originally posted by 12clicks


ahahahahahaha, listen clown. I'm sure you think people buy into your whole act about being intelligent but please, stop! my sides hurt from laughing at you.
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get it?
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Far more likely you sent your fraudulant traffic to topcash until *they* got wise to it (I'm sure you have an excuse for no longer using them too):1orglaugh


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God, its got to kill you.
:1orglaugh

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the indigo 10-24-2002 08:35 AM

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Originally posted by drew
the indigo
Another stupid FUCK attacking americans, but his location = UNKNOWN.
Islam is like CANCER. You can not treat it,
you have to eradicate it.

Americans like you are dumb stupid fucks.

I'm from Montreal dickhead. I did not include all american, but american who think the same as 12Clicks. There's a lot actually.

Now if it includes you, then fucking grow up.

DjSap 10-24-2002 08:35 AM

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Originally posted by Undutchable
Even with that said, though, we must not forget about the benefits that religion has brought to the world. Sure, a lot of bad effects have been seen, and there are issues in old scriptures that almost noone in the modern world agrees with but that doesn't mean the remaining 90% of these religions that dont deal with violence but rather with good manners and such are worthless..
Religion has been great for humanity, without it poor stupid people wouldn't work hard all their lives for nothing, all they had is the image of heaven...

Bible, torah, koran all say to kill disbelivers...i think it's kinda fucked up that people call themselves followers of those religions after reading these books, just call yourself a beleiver but don't label youself as a christian, jew, muslim...cuz that's just idiotic.

12clicks 10-24-2002 08:35 AM

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Originally posted by CDSmith
Ahhh, a morning with 12clicks...... nothing better, not even the paper. Well, this coffee is pretty good, but nothing compares to a good old fashioned "kill all muslims" thread. :thumbsup
yeah, they are always in the running for longest thread but I just don't have the interest or stamina I used to to string along idiots and actually win the DVD player. :glugglug

Theo 10-24-2002 08:35 AM

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Originally posted by drew


Can you imagine few B-52's over Mecca.
Now that would be interesting.

sorry, i don't reply to black people

ADL Colin 10-24-2002 08:36 AM

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Originally posted by alibaba


Muslim is a religion where peace is first subject. You have to be a good person, you must love each other, shortly you must not screw anyone. And fighting is illegal in muslim book. God does not want to kill each other anyway. It's exactly same in every book. This terrorists, Bin Ladin, etc... are not real muslims. They are using muslims and God for fulling people's mind. Actually I think they are satans. Not any muslim can kill someone. It's clearly written in muslim book that if you kill someone you have the ticket to hell.

All muslims shamed of this kind of terrorists, so understand that they are just ordinary, stupid terrorists. You can't blame this to all muslims because of some psychos.

So peace bro...

Are you speaking of the same Mohammed I know about? The same Mohammed that raided caravans bound for Mecca in order to keep the new muslims intact? The one who in his first year of the Hegira received permission from Allah to go to war in his name?

Some of Mohammed's close friends mentioned in the Koran: swordsmen, warriors, and archers. Hmmm.

Yes, peace is the "first subject".

1. Join us peacefully
If not ..
2. Die, infidel!

Mohammed was the leader of military operations.
All for it. He was a brave warrior - and that is what he was. Not a man of peace. Wanna see peace? See Gandhi. Not Mohammed.

Then the Muslims attacked the Persians, Syria,
Damascus, and so on.

What were the peaceful Muslims doing way up in Damascus?

Peace is not the first subject.

CDSmith 10-24-2002 08:37 AM

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Originally posted by the indigo
The sniper thing going on @ Washington is nothing compared to most of what is going for 50% of the people on this planet. It's pretty fucking pathetic and sad.
Yes, it really is. Maybe if the other 50% of the world's people would put their 300 year old bullshit grievances aside and work together to build up a strong modern economy they wouldn't have to fight. Do you see Texas bombing California? Do you see New York bombing Illinois? No? Why do you think that is? Maybe it's because........?

"But CD, it's not that simple"

yes it is.

drew 10-24-2002 08:38 AM

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Originally posted by Undutchable


No, that would be world war 3

What they would do to us. Attack us with their camels? But just look what muslims do to Europe.
Europe will soon be run over with by those fucks.

Undutchable 10-24-2002 08:44 AM

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Originally posted by DjSap


Religion has been great for humanity, without it poor stupid people wouldn't work hard all their lives for nothing, all they had is the image of heaven...

Bible, torah, koran all say to kill disbelivers...i think it's kinda fucked up that people call themselves followers of those religions after reading these books, just call yourself a beleiver but don't label youself as a christian, jew, muslim...cuz that's just idiotic.

Well, if your parents, and your grandparents, and their parents, and their parents (you get the idea) were all raised with Islam as a cultural heritage, then it's quite logical that 1 billion people still call themselves Muslim... The heritage that gets passed on doesnt include the KILL ALL INFIDELS attitude, but the social structures more than anything... Trust me, most Muslims don't even KNOW about the Koran in the way you know it. For them, it's a completely different book - they revere it, they read from it on a wedding some day and that's it. They probably never even read about the hostility that I admit existed in that time.

On that note though, Mohammad and his followers were supporessed for 13 years before they attacked back. In a time where killing and war were quite normal, it is to be understood. Of course, nowadays this has no place at all. Im not going into discussion about this because I AGREE ITS FUCKED, but its not done anymore by the mainstream Muslims so why corner them and make them feel threatened? Because THIS and ONLY THIS will make them fall back into the hands of fundamentalists and terrorists. NOTHING ELSE.

TDF 10-24-2002 08:44 AM

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Originally posted by Manga1


Exactly where in the Bible does it say to kill fags?

Leviticus 18:22 or 20:13

Leviticus 20:13- If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a
woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall
surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

drew 10-24-2002 08:44 AM

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Originally posted by the indigo


Americans like you are dumb stupid fucks.

I'm from Montreal dickhead. I did not include all american, but american who think the same as 12Clicks. There's a lot actually.

Now if it includes you, then fucking grow up.

Montreal hmmm, that is in french part of Canada right? That explains it.

CDSmith 10-24-2002 08:45 AM

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Originally posted by 12clicks
yeah, they are always in the running for longest thread but I just don't have the interest or stamina I used to to string along idiots and actually win the DVD player. :glugglug
I find that hard to believe. You're going to live forever, right? Without you I wouldn't get my little paycheque ever few months (paid like clockwork), and I've come to like that little paycheque.



Btw, is there really a dvd player? I heard it was a myth. :winkwink:

Theo 10-24-2002 08:46 AM

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Originally posted by toodamnfli


Leviticus 18:22 or 20:13

toodamnfli always surprises me :-)

Undutchable 10-24-2002 08:47 AM

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Originally posted by drew


What they would do to us. Attack us with their camels? But just look what muslims do to Europe.
Europe will soon be run over with by those fucks.

I live in Europe and I have yet to encounter the first bit of trouble with a Muslim person.. But maybe thats just me and my lack of "only good muslim is a dead muslim"-attitude

What are they gonna do? Well remember 9/11? Bali? Those were organised by a relatively small group of people. Bomb Mecca, and you'll have death tolls the size of a thousand September 11's. Bomb Mecca and you'll piss off the ENTIRE mainstream Islamic community, who just wanna live their fucking lives like you and me..

ADL Colin 10-24-2002 08:48 AM

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Originally posted by toodamnfli


Leviticus 18:22 or 20:13

More entertainment.
Deuteronomy 21: 18-21

18 If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:

19 Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;

20 And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.

21 And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.

TDF 10-24-2002 08:48 AM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel


toodamnfli always surprises me :-)

;)))

ControlThy 10-24-2002 08:49 AM

Hello Drew,

How are you feeling today?

I have a question for you.....

Have you heard of the september the 11th attack? This will answer your question on how the Muslim world will react if you keep pushing their buttons.

I thought even someone of your intelligence would understand, but maybe I was wrong?

CDSmith 10-24-2002 08:49 AM

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Originally posted by toodamnfli
Leviticus 18:22 or 20:13

Leviticus 20:13- If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a
woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall
surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

So Leviticus was a homophobe?


:1orglaugh

12clicks 10-24-2002 08:50 AM

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Originally posted by Chris R




Are you now accusing me of cheating?

Better make sure you know what you are talking about.


I'm not the guy who's stats dropped when we updated our fraud database, yours were. :winkwink:
As far as what you're doing now with topbucks, thats somehow relevant to non-adult traffic you sent us?
no, its not. try as you might, one still has nothing to do with the other.

ADL Colin 10-24-2002 08:51 AM

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Originally posted by CDSmith
So Leviticus was a homophobe?


:1orglaugh

No, God is.

TDF 10-24-2002 08:51 AM

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Originally posted by Colin


More entertainment.
Deuteronomy 21: 18-21

18 If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:

19 Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;

20 And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.

21 And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.


great...lets stone all our kids. Better yet lets follow ALL of the rules associated with your respected religion,...including sacrafices and giving our virgin daughters to our kinfolk

Undutchable 10-24-2002 08:52 AM

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Originally posted by CDSmith
So Leviticus was a homophobe?


:1orglaugh

I believe Moses wrote that piece...

Not 100% sure though

Theo 10-24-2002 08:53 AM

i hope archer is not reading..... :Graucho

CDSmith 10-24-2002 08:53 AM

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Originally posted by Colin
No, God is.
And who dares to argue with God? Not me friend.

ControlThy 10-24-2002 08:53 AM

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Originally posted by Colin


No, God is.

Than God is an idiot as homosexuality is his creation.

ADL Colin 10-24-2002 08:53 AM

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Originally posted by toodamnfli



great...lets stone all our kids. Better yet lets follow ALL of the rules associated with your respected religion,...including sacrafices and giving our virgin daughters to our kinfolk

My religion? What religion would that be, toodamnfli?

CDSmith 10-24-2002 08:54 AM

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Originally posted by Undutchable
I believe Moses wrote that piece...

Not 100% sure though

I was being facetious.

Theo 10-24-2002 08:55 AM

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Originally posted by ControlThy


Than God is an idiot as homosexuality is his creation.

nietzsche could answer us.......

quiet?

TDF 10-24-2002 08:57 AM

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Originally posted by Colin


My religion? What religion would that be, toodamnfli?

I dont mean you per say im saying people seem to take bits and pieces of religions and apply them to their life as they see fit and claim they are "saved" or "righteous". Throughout the bible God is referred to as a Jealous and fierce God. Each respected religion clearly said if you dont believe in me you will burn and burn fiercely.

ADL Colin 10-24-2002 08:57 AM

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Originally posted by ControlThy


Than God is an idiot as homosexuality is his creation.

Who are you trying to convince?

ControlThy 10-24-2002 08:58 AM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel


nietzsche could answer us.......

quiet?

Indeed he could.
I am wondering what Nietzsche's theory is on this issue.

Please wake up Quiet.

ADL Colin 10-24-2002 08:59 AM

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Originally posted by toodamnfli


I dont mean you per say im saying people seem to take bits and pieces of religions and apply them to their life as they see fit and claim they are "saved" or "righteous". Throughout the bible God is referred to as a Jealous and fierce God. Each respected religion clearly said if you dont believe in me you will burn and burn fiercely.

per se.

Believe in me or die. Seems like a fair deal.

drew 10-24-2002 09:00 AM

Hello ControlThy
How is your Renault Clio running?
And to your question. Have you heard of nuclear bomb? If Islam starts war with us
there might be not much left of Muslim World.

TDF 10-24-2002 09:01 AM

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Originally posted by Colin


per se.

Believe in me or die. Seems like a fair deal.

of course it does..but my thing is people claim to believe in the laws of the bible yet we are sinning in our thinking,saying and doing. As the bible says "there no sin greater than another"

Undutchable 10-24-2002 09:03 AM

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Originally posted by drew
Hello ControlThy
How is your Renault Clio running?
And to your question. Have you heard of nuclear bomb? If Islam starts war with us
there might be not much left of Muslim World.

What about our world? Does Pakistan ring a bell? Musharrav might be a kind chap, but in the event of a clash with the Islamic world he'll be gone before you can say "mushroom cloud" and the extremists will take over... Then what? You guess..

CDSmith 10-24-2002 09:06 AM

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Originally posted by Undutchable
What about our world? Does Pakistan ring a bell? Musharrav might be a kind chap, but in the event of a clash with the Islamic world he'll be gone before you can say "mushroom cloud" and the extremists will take over... Then what? You guess..
My mom used to say "Anything done to extreme is a sin"

The extremists need to be punished. Nuke them now.

ADL Colin 10-24-2002 09:07 AM

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Originally posted by toodamnfli


of course it does..but my thing is people claim to believe in the laws of the bible yet we are sinning in our thinking,saying and doing. As the bible says "there no sin greater than another"

Why do you say "we"? Are you a believer?

drew 10-24-2002 09:07 AM

Undutchable
I think India would take care of Pakis without our help. And they'd be happy to do it. Just give them the green light.

TDF 10-24-2002 09:08 AM

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Originally posted by Colin


Why do you say "we"? Are you a believer?

i believe that my conscience is my God. I deem what is right and wrong and I shall judge myself accordingly

Undutchable 10-24-2002 09:09 AM

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Originally posted by CDSmith

The extremists need to be punished. Nuke them now.

The extremists live among moderate people. Nuke's cant tell the difference in ideology yet, perhaps you can think of a more subtle solution?

ADL Colin 10-24-2002 09:10 AM

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Originally posted by CDSmith
And who dares to argue with God? Not me friend.
I'm afraid of hell. In ancient times people must have been very afraid of fire. I worry hell has been updated. Women who go will get fat and have no hair supplies and men will be broke with small penises.

TDF 10-24-2002 09:11 AM

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Originally posted by Undutchable


The extremists live among moderate people. Nuke's cant tell the difference in ideology yet, perhaps you can think of a more subtle solution?

too true...an ideology bomb...

foe 10-24-2002 09:12 AM

Its true muslims are terrorists, what about the Palestinians dancing on the street after 911 and more than 60% of the world muslim population supports Bin Ladin.

Undutchable 10-24-2002 09:12 AM

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Originally posted by Colin


I'm afraid of hell. In ancient times people must have been very afraid of fire. I worry hell has been updated. Women who go will get fat and have no hair supplies and men will be broke with small penises.

According to that, childhood is hell :)

ADL Colin 10-24-2002 09:12 AM

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Originally posted by Undutchable


The extremists live among moderate people. Nuke's cant tell the difference in ideology yet, perhaps you can think of a more subtle solution?

Guillotine. viva la French Revolucion!


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