NASA moon walker says we've had contact with aliens

[TTiger]

FORMER NASA astronaut and moon-walker Dr Edgar Mitchell - a veteran of the Apollo 14 mission - has stunningly claimed aliens exist.
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599...-13762,00.html

[d-null]

more and more of this evidence and people finally speaking up are starting to happen all the time

[D Ghost]

interesting..

[moeloubani]

If Ray Mears said that Bigfoot is real would you believe him?

No. Because even though he's probably one of the guys who would have seen him during his survival travels, you know that Bigfoot isn't real.

[Pokey the Turtle]

he probably had his head fried in space....sounds like a real nutcase

[teg0]

good read

[BradM]

Originally Posted by moeloubani

If Ray Mears said that Bigfoot is real would you believe him?

No. Because even though he's probably one of the guys who would have seen him during his survival travels, you know that Bigfoot isn't real.

We have been in existance for thousands of years. Our planet has been evolving for billions. Who is to say there isn't a species that is over 1,000 years ahead of us on the curve?

We can fly, we can break the speed barrier and within 100 years we will travel at the speed of light. We are not that far off from being ETs to some other culture ourselves.

Frankly I don't see this as being something completely outside of the realm of possible.

The only people who can't and will not believe this are religious folk who demand we were placed on this planet 4500 years ago by an invisible man in the sky.

[TTiger]

the buzz is here to stay..
http://news.google.ca/news?ned=us&hl...=Sea rch+News

[Matt 26z]

Originally Posted by BradM

The only people who can't and will not believe this are religious folk who demand we were placed on this planet 4500 years ago by an invisible man in the sky.

The Catholic church's official position is that life on other planets is possible. There are a lot of religious people who believe in aliens.

The interesting thing about alien life and religion is that the Bible doesn't explain the history of God, the angels and that sort of thing. Could it be that the "higher powers" in the Bible are actually aliens?

There are numerous alien references in the Bible too.

[seeric]

those dummies.

i have met aliens many times right here in l.a. and i didn't have to waste millions of dollars to do it.

bahahahahaha.

silly gooses.

[seeric]

Originally Posted by BradM

We have been in existance for thousands of years. Our planet has been evolving for billions. Who is to say there isn't a species that is over 1,000 years ahead of us on the curve?

i wonder if they have cool paysites. what would they look like?

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Time to face the facts - people that believe in alien beings secretly want to be anally probed...

ADG

[StuartD]

Those who don't believe in aliens are very conceited.

If humans are the smartest and most advanced species in in the universe, then the universe truly is a sad place.

[NewbieNudes]

If anything this adds weight to the we've never walked on the moon camp, because this guy is most likely making the alien stuff up as he might have made up that he walked on the moon.

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Originally Posted by StuartD

Those who don't believe in aliens are very conceited.

If humans are the smartest and most advanced species in in the universe, then the universe truly is a sad place.

Actually people that believe in alien beings without any proof are not so different from religious zealots believing in the great JuJu in the sky..

I certainly would be the first to say that it is not only possible, but probable, that many other life forms exist in the universe. In that respect I guess I am a cosmic agnostic.

I'm just not quite ready to don a tinfoil hat yet and believe simply because people make claims with no independent verifiable proof.

For example, if you read the article, the astronaut cited in the first post of the thread is basing his claim upon hearsay.

BTW, I wll be going to see the new X-Files movie this weekend (but that's mostly because I have the hots for Gillian Anderson)...

ADG

[bhutocracy]

*yawn* This guy is a fruit loop that believes in psychic healing and all sorts of new age bullshit. Surprise surprise he believes in Roswell etc too.

[halfpint]

To infinity and beyond ..god I loved buzz lightyear

[tony286]

there could be, we exist who is to say there cant be others.

[bhutocracy]

Originally Posted by tony404

there could be, we exist who is to say there cant be others.

The difference between believing that the existence of aliens is possible or probable in the billions of lightyears of space and that multiple governments have managed to cover up daily anal probing for 60 years is night and day. (or Reptile and Grey - chortle.)

[Spunky]

We are a dust speck in the universe.they're probably millions of planets out there that have life on them.

[cherrylula]

Originally Posted by A1R3K

those dummies.

i have met aliens many times right here in l.a. and i didn't have to waste millions of dollars to do it.

bahahahahaha.

silly gooses.

galactic greencards

[cherrylula]

he needs to come off about that whole moon landing thing being fake anyhow.

[dav3]

dont make me dig thru these ufo vids and post some clips from space shuttle cameras to make you guys believe.

shit is real out there!

[dav3]

[dav3]

[GregE]

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Actually people that believe in alien beings without any proof are not so different from religious zealots believing in the great JuJu in the sky..

I certainly would be the first to say that it is not only possible, but probable, that many other life forms exist in the universe. In that respect I guess I am a cosmic agnostic.

I guess that makes me something of a "believer" then...

Those thousands and thousands - billions even - of sun like stars out there in our own galaxy alone, to say nothing of the billions of other galaxies beyond that, ain't there just to give us something to look at at night.

I'd bet the house that there's plenty of life out there, intelligent life too, and in any direction you care to look.

Thing is, we'll never see it and they'll never see us... or each other.

The distances are just too damn great.

[waz]

all i want to know is are they green little people with one eye.

[After Shock Media]

Originally Posted by BradM

We have been in existance for thousands of years. Our planet has been evolving for billions. Who is to say there isn't a species that is over 1,000 years ahead of us on the curve?

We can fly, we can break the speed barrier and within 100 years we will travel at the speed of light. We are not that far off from being ETs to some other culture ourselves.

Frankly I don't see this as being something completely outside of the realm of possible.

The only people who can't and will not believe this are religious folk who demand we were placed on this planet 4500 years ago by an invisible man in the sky.

There very well may be species that are thousands if not tens of thousands of years ahead of us time wise. No argument there at all.

If you really think we will be able to travel at the speed of light in 100 years let alone 1000's or greater, you really need to have someone sit you down and explain physics to you. Then assuming we can reach the speed of light without it harming the human body *odds dictate it would be robots anyways. Then it still would have to travel the speed of light for 78,000 years before it reached the next closest galaxy. Which is a little more than half of the time homosapiens have even been on our planet *oldest fossil record approx 135k

Then as your church comment, only the real nut jobs think the earth is 6,000 years old (not 4,500). The Catholic church among others have already acknowledged the possibility of life outside of Earth. It may come as a surprise but there are a whole lot of Christian and Catholic scientists that are very respectable.

PS. To a few others: If you really think that we have not been on the moon, please just proceed to slap the shit out of yourself until you get it.

[After Shock Media]

Oh and before anyone jumps my ass, yes I am aware there are stars as close as 4.6 or so to 9 light years away from our sun.

[XoXo Cash]

he should have just kept his mouth shut cuz ppl are just going to call him crazy and there is no way to prove it...

[dav3]

[bhutocracy]

Originally Posted by GregE

I guess that makes me something of a "believer" then...

Those thousands and thousands - billions even - of sun like stars out there in our own galaxy alone, to say nothing of the billions of other galaxies beyond that, ain't there just to give us something to look at at night.

I'd bet the house that there's plenty of life out there, intelligent life too, and in any direction you care to look.

Thing is, we'll never see it and they'll never see us... or each other.

The distances are just too damn great.

Meaning the time involved would probably render a species extinct by the time radiowaves etc ever reached us alerting us of their presence. The hard part is getting two species of intelligent life at roughly the same level of development in the same area... 10 million years either way which is a fraction of a microsecond in universe terms and they could live a galaxy across and never know it as the first might go extinct while the other is still borrowing for winter.
One of the surefire reasons I just can't believe in alien spaceships landing on earth without proof is just the sheer neatness of aliens only ever being ~100 years further ahead in technology than us. It's just an extra layer of improbability.

[dav3]

[BradM]

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

blah blah blah i always argue shit and am always right and write so much no one gives a fuck to read it all bla bla bla

I don't have the patience to even bother responding other than saying: Tech advances at an incredible rate daily. I am sure someone will make a breakthrough at some point. Not like we'd know anyway - you'll be dead in 30 years and me in 60.

[moeloubani]

Anyone who knows about physics will tell you this:

The idea of Aliens traveling from outer space to Earth is very slim. BUT if they could, they would have to travel at close to the speed of light to do it.

When you start talking about speeds like the speed of light (c) then you have to know the work Einstein did and what his theories (which have since been proven) state.

As you approach the speed of light your length contracts and your mass increases. Soo if there was a car that was 20 ft long and a garage that was stationary and only 10 feet long. That car, if it was traveling close enough to the speed of light, could go into the garage, and both doors could close at the same time. This is because the actual length of the car changes.

The same holds true for mass, as your speed increases and starts going towards any fraction of the speed of light (like 1% of the speed of light and this is noticeable) then whatever object it is gets more massive. Light can go the speed of light because a photon has no mass. Everything else is limited by that.

IF Aliens found a way to skip physics and do something where the speed of light wouldn't be a limiting factor, it would also mean that there would be no limit on the size of their spacecraft. So why would they come around in a tiny little flying saucer? It wouldn't need to be aerodynamic, and it could be as big as the Starship Enterprise! There would be no point in sending out tiny little drone ships when you can send out fully equipped battle/eco dome cruisers.

[Spunky]

We probably look like alien creatures compared to the other forms of life that are way more advanced if they have these "ships" that can scout other planets.we are probably apes according to them.I think people close their minds to the idea that other possibilities of life exist,just the same way we don't really know how we evolved

[Kudles]

I believe it!!!

[SomeCreep]

Aliens are real. This is what they look like.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by BradM

Frankly I don't see this as being something completely outside of the realm of possible.

The only people who can't and will not believe this are religious folk who demand we were placed on this planet 4500 years ago by an invisible man in the sky.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by moeloubani

Anyone who knows about physics will tell you this:

The idea of Aliens traveling from outer space to Earth is very slim. BUT if they could, they would have to travel at close to the speed of light to do it.

When you start talking about speeds like the speed of light (c) then you have to know the work Einstein did and what his theories (which have since been proven) state.

As you approach the speed of light your length contracts and your mass increases. Soo if there was a car that was 20 ft long and a garage that was stationary and only 10 feet long. That car, if it was traveling close enough to the speed of light, could go into the garage, and both doors could close at the same time. This is because the actual length of the car changes.

The same holds true for mass, as your speed increases and starts going towards any fraction of the speed of light (like 1% of the speed of light and this is noticeable) then whatever object it is gets more massive. Light can go the speed of light because a photon has no mass. Everything else is limited by that.

IF Aliens found a way to skip physics and do something where the speed of light wouldn't be a limiting factor, it would also mean that there would be no limit on the size of their spacecraft. So why would they come around in a tiny little flying saucer? It wouldn't need to be aerodynamic, and it could be as big as the Starship Enterprise! There would be no point in sending out tiny little drone ships when you can send out fully equipped battle/eco dome cruisers.

This is why Humans are funny
Think they got a good grasp of the universe and everything about it and how it works...

It is entertaining.

[Kevsh]

It is has been argued scientifically that there is a high probability that somewhere in the universe there is some form of intelligent life. Now whether or not they know, care to know or have tried to find others (as we have done) is impossible to guess.

But if they have found our planet, they may have done so millions of years ago when it was a fairly empty rock. Perhaps they found us when there were dinosaurs. Perhaps they won't find us for another 10,000 or 10 million years.

But to think they've pulled up into Texas (or Arizona, or Italy or Australia) in a little tiny ship to take a closer look - after traveling millions of miles, none the less - defies rational logic.

[moeloubani]

Originally Posted by AlienQ

This is why Humans are funny
Think they got a good grasp of the universe and everything about it and how it works...

It is entertaining.

It's more entertaining when people laugh at things that have been proven true.

When a computer models the universe based on what we know (universal constants, equations and theories all accounted for) then we get a result that looks just like our universe today. If we change anything at all, even a little bit, then the end result looks drastically different. So I'm not sure what you're getting at since people KNOW this stuff is true, have proven it true, and even applied it to technology you use everyday that wouldn't function without it.

[GregE]

Originally Posted by bhutocracy

One of the surefire reasons I just can't believe in alien spaceships landing on earth without proof is just the sheer neatness of aliens only ever being ~100 years further ahead in technology than us. It's just an extra layer of improbability.

Indeed

With respect to your other excellent points...

Something like a third of what we see in the night time sky isn't there anymore, while at the same time, there's just as much else that is but won't become visible from here for anywhere from another hundred to another million years.

Here's something else to ponder...

According to Einstein, if you travel fast enough, you go back in time. So, I suppose it's at least theoretically possible to visit those points of light in the sky that aren't there anymore, if your spaceship travels fast enough. Of course, once you return home from such a trip they'll be nobody to tell about it... because home won't be there yet.

Hey, who needs chemicals when you can twist your mind talking about this shit.

[Voodoo]

[moeloubani]

Originally Posted by GregE

Indeed

With respect to your other excellent points...

Something like a third of what we see in the night time sky isn't there anymore, while at the same time, there's just as much else that is but won't become visible from here for anywhere from another hundred to another million years.

Here's something else to ponder...

According to Einstein, if you travel fast enough, you go back in time. So, I suppose it's at least theoretically possible to visit those points of light in the sky that aren't there anymore, if your spaceship travels fast enough. Of course, once you return home from such a trip they'll be nobody to tell about it... because home won't be there yet.

Hey, who needs chemicals when you can twist your mind talking about this shit.

Einstein never said if you travel fast enough you go back in time. That's just a lie/misinformation.

His equations actually prove that it is impossible to travel back in time!

However in a weird sort of way, you can travel to the future if you travel close to the speed of light. For example, I take off on a spaceship and set my clock, my speed is 50% the speed of light and I travel for 1 hour according to my clock. I might land and years might have passed from where I took off even though only 1 hour has passed for me.

[GregE]

Originally Posted by moeloubani

However in a weird sort of way, you can travel to the future if you travel close to the speed of light. For example, I take off on a spaceship and set my clock, my speed is 50% the speed of light and I travel for 1 hour according to my clock. I might land and years might have passed from where I took off even though only 1 hour has passed for me.

So what you're saying in effect is that no matter how fast you travel, you'll never be able to return from a space trip in a relatively short period of time and, in fact, the faster you go the longer it'll be before you return.

Well, if true, that alone should rule out the idea of visitors from outer space.

[potter]

So people believe that faster than the speed of light travel is possible. As even the speed of light is waaaaaaaaaaaaay too slow to traverse the universe.

People believe, beings have this ability. An ability, that is so beyond our realm of possibilities. Would inherently be more powerful, knowledgeable, and smarter than GOD himself.

People believe these beings spend their time traveling the universe to explore? To explore earth?

And lastly. People believe these beings have done all this, and come all this way, with all this power. And our government somehow has the ability to cover it up?

Ha!

[moeloubani]

Originally Posted by GregE

So what you're saying in effect is that no matter how fast you travel, you'll never be able to return from a space trip in a relatively short period of time and, in fact, the faster you go the longer it'll be before you return.

Well, if true, that alone should rule out the idea of visitors from outer space.

No no, right now GPS satellites and other satellites take this effect into consideration to keep them accurate. Without it they would be way off.

This is what the whole relativity thing is about, relative to you and yourself you will only have been gone say one hour. That much time will have passed on your clock and you'll be an hour older. But relative to the people still on Earth (or anyone else not moving with you) time will have marched at a different pace.

If anything that means that space travel will be easier, because we can travel for 10000 human years meanwhile the astronauts have only been traveling for (for example) 5 years. The problem with Aliens isn't that, its length contraction and the increase of mass that happens as you approach the speed of light.

[After Shock Media]

Originally Posted by BradM

I don't have the patience to even bother responding other than saying: Tech advances at an incredible rate daily. I am sure someone will make a breakthrough at some point. Not like we'd know anyway - you'll be dead in 30 years and me in 60.

More presumptions like always, hell you even hazarded to guess how many years I and you will have left. I already know I type a lot, and I only argue on points I do have a grasp well beyond guessing. I also am first to admit when I am wrong unlike say you for instance.

I will make it very simple for you. Unless we reinvent physics and/or harness and can use a wormhole, or bend space that shit just will not happen.

No go ahead and throw some additional insults and blame it on lack of patience.

[Fap]