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crockett · 05-08-2008, 08:04 PM

Sitting here watching A&E show "First 48 hours". It's a "real" detective type show, where they follow around police detectives during the first 48 hours of murder investigations.

They were doing an investigation and had a guy in custody and had a witness whom claimed he was the killer. The guy in custody claims his alibi was that he was with his wife at the hospital whom was giving birth to his child.

The cop's attitude about it, was he had more work to do in trying to "disprove the accused alibi". That very additude goes against everything the entire "innocent until proven guilty" idea.

The cop should be assuming the guy was innocent and trying to prove he had an alibi, rather than trying to disprove the alibi. I realise that sounds like splitting hairs but in reality it's a world of difference between the too.

The_Truth_Will_Hurts · 05-08-2008, 08:08 PM

crockett · 05-08-2008, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Truth_Will_Hurts

Amazing even unless monkeys can use computers these days. Can't wait till I can train a few to make blog posts. They seem to have image posting down, so it's halfway there.

uno · 05-08-2008, 08:12 PM

Cops don't work under the assumption of innocence, courts do.

The_Truth_Will_Hurts · 05-08-2008, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

Amazing even unless monkeys can use computers these days. Can't wait till I can train a few to make blog posts. They seem to have image posting down, so it's halfway there.

You're a fucking loser

crockett · 05-08-2008, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by uno

Cops don't work under the assumption of innocence, courts do.

I understand that, but they are still part of the legal system. They are the fact finders so to speak in which the prosecution works from. If the cops don't work with the assumption of "innocent until proven guilty", how could the prosecution know they have all the facts and a solid case?

The prosecution has to go forward with a case they believe all leads have been looked at. If the detective works under the assumption he has the right guy and has to disprove the accused alibi. There is ample room for bad police work and the wrong person being charged.

It's about the attitude of assuming they already have the guily guy, rather than assuming the guy may be innocent. There is a very big difference and it's not how our legal system is supposed to work.

The_Truth_Will_Hurts · 05-08-2008, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

I understand that, but they are still part of the legal system. They are the fact finders so to speak in which the prosecution works from. If the cops don't work with the assumption of "innocent until proven guilty", how could the prosecution know they have all the facts and a solid case?

The prosecution has to go forward with a case they believe all leads have been looked at. If the detective works under the assumption he has the right guy and has to disprove the accused alibi. There is ample room for bad police work and the wrong person being charged.

It's about the attitude of assuming they already have the guily guy, rather than assuming the guy may be innocent. There is a very big difference and it's not how our legal system is supposed to work.

You talk too much, you must have something to hide

crockett · 05-08-2008, 08:21 PM

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You're a fucking loser

I'm not the one whom has been banned more times than I can count on two hands. Loser? You're the moron who needs a new nick every week.

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uno · 05-08-2008, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

I'm not the one whom has been banned more times than I can count on two hands. Loser? You're the moron who needs a new nick every week.

Ill respond to the other bit later, but thank god for StuartD's plugin as i have no idea who you are talking to or what you are talking about.

marketsmart · 05-08-2008, 09:03 PM

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You're a fucking loser

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Kudles · 05-08-2008, 09:27 PM

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