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crockett 05-08-2008 08:04 PM

This is what is wrong with the US legal system.
 
Sitting here watching A&E show "First 48 hours". It's a "real" detective type show, where they follow around police detectives during the first 48 hours of murder investigations.

They were doing an investigation and had a guy in custody and had a witness whom claimed he was the killer. The guy in custody claims his alibi was that he was with his wife at the hospital whom was giving birth to his child.

The cop's attitude about it, was he had more work to do in trying to "disprove the accused alibi". That very additude goes against everything the entire "innocent until proven guilty" idea.

The cop should be assuming the guy was innocent and trying to prove he had an alibi, rather than trying to disprove the alibi. I realise that sounds like splitting hairs but in reality it's a world of difference between the too.

The_Truth_Will_Hurts 05-08-2008 08:08 PM

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crockett 05-08-2008 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Truth_Will_Hurts (Post 14167766)

Amazing even unless monkeys can use computers these days. Can't wait till I can train a few to make blog posts. They seem to have image posting down, so it's halfway there.

uno 05-08-2008 08:12 PM

Cops don't work under the assumption of innocence, courts do.

The_Truth_Will_Hurts 05-08-2008 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 14167771)
Amazing even unless monkeys can use computers these days. Can't wait till I can train a few to make blog posts. They seem to have image posting down, so it's halfway there.

You're a fucking loser :2 cents:

crockett 05-08-2008 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by uno (Post 14167775)
Cops don't work under the assumption of innocence, courts do.

I understand that, but they are still part of the legal system. They are the fact finders so to speak in which the prosecution works from. If the cops don't work with the assumption of "innocent until proven guilty", how could the prosecution know they have all the facts and a solid case?

The prosecution has to go forward with a case they believe all leads have been looked at. If the detective works under the assumption he has the right guy and has to disprove the accused alibi. There is ample room for bad police work and the wrong person being charged.

It's about the attitude of assuming they already have the guily guy, rather than assuming the guy may be innocent. There is a very big difference and it's not how our legal system is supposed to work.

The_Truth_Will_Hurts 05-08-2008 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 14167793)
I understand that, but they are still part of the legal system. They are the fact finders so to speak in which the prosecution works from. If the cops don't work with the assumption of "innocent until proven guilty", how could the prosecution know they have all the facts and a solid case?

The prosecution has to go forward with a case they believe all leads have been looked at. If the detective works under the assumption he has the right guy and has to disprove the accused alibi. There is ample room for bad police work and the wrong person being charged.

It's about the attitude of assuming they already have the guily guy, rather than assuming the guy may be innocent. There is a very big difference and it's not how our legal system is supposed to work.

You talk too much, you must have something to hide :2 cents:

crockett 05-08-2008 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Truth_Will_Hurts (Post 14167780)
You're a fucking loser :2 cents:

I'm not the one whom has been banned more times than I can count on two hands. Loser? You're the moron who needs a new nick every week.

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uno 05-08-2008 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 14167803)
I'm not the one whom has been banned more times than I can count on two hands. Loser? You're the moron who needs a new nick every week.

Ill respond to the other bit later, but thank god for StuartD's plugin as i have no idea who you are talking to or what you are talking about. :)

marketsmart 05-08-2008 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Truth_Will_Hurts (Post 14167780)
You're a fucking loser :2 cents:

You're a fucking winner :2 cents:

in 6 months, you are going to be bigger than Arthur Fonzerelli.... :thumbsup

Kudles 05-08-2008 09:27 PM

I really like that show.


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