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Old 05-01-2008, 06:44 AM   #1
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Age of consent in Canada rises to age 16 (was 14)

http://www.winnipegsun.com/News/Cana...37961-sun.html
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Canada's age of sexual consent will be bumped up two years to 16 beginning today.

The change means adults who have sex with boys or girls aged 14 and 15 years old could face criminal charges.

Canada's age of consent has been 14 since 1892.

The legislation was brought in by the government in part to deal with older Internet predators who troll the Web looking for young victims.

Canada's age of consent will now be in line with other countries, such as Britain, and most U.S. states.

The intent of the new law is not to criminalize teenage sex, but to crack down on adults who prey on youth, former justice minister Vic Toews said when the bill making the change was introduced.

The law includes a "close-in-age" provision of five years, which means it would be legal for a 15-year-old to have relations with a 19-year-old provided the relationship is not exploitive and the older party is not in a position of authority or trust.
Now if our authorities could figure out a way to actually give offenders some meaningful jail time the plan would be perfect.

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Old 05-01-2008, 06:46 AM   #2
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In a perfect world, this wouldn't make any difference at all as no adult would consider it in the first place.
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16 is good. Should be 16 for all of America, too.

Why?

Because if you're old enough to operate motor vehicle, you're old enough for sex. Driving requires a great deal of maturity. One wrong move and you can kill yourself, your passenger, pedestrians, or other drivers. Hence, if the goverment deems a person mentally mature enough to drive a vehicle at age 16, you should be old enough at that age to also decide who you want to fuck.
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that sux.. was hoping they'd move it to 13
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Now if our authorities could figure out a way to actually give offenders some meaningful jail time the plan would be perfect.

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that sux.. was hoping they'd move it to 13
This won't prevent you from moving here will it?
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16 is good. Should be 16 for all of America, too.

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Because if you're old enough to operate motor vehicle, you're old enough for sex. Driving requires a great deal of maturity. One wrong move and you can kill yourself, your passenger, pedestrians, or other drivers. Hence, if the goverment deems a person mentally mature enough to drive a vehicle at age 16, you should be old enough at that age to also decide who you want to fuck.
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16 is good - 14 and 15 year olds should be fucking each other - 17 year olds should be fucking 45 year olds, very sane nation Canada is.
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well, that's too young for us. 18 should be the legal age.
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16 is good. Should be 16 for all of America, too.

Why?

Because if you're old enough to operate motor vehicle, you're old enough for sex. Driving requires a great deal of maturity. One wrong move and you can kill yourself, your passenger, pedestrians, or other drivers. Hence, if the goverment deems a person mentally mature enough to drive a vehicle at age 16, you should be old enough at that age to also decide who you want to fuck.
With your reasoning we should also let them drink, vote and go off to war at 16 too. Sixteen year olds are NOT known to be mature, look at the posts here on GFY if you don't believe me. Hell half the 18 year olds here are not mature enough to post on a message board and behave...let alone drink,drive and fuck.
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Well 17 year olds can fight and go to war but in U.S.A. can't vote, have sex or drink.. I think that's crazy!
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For the record this isn't about whether or not young teens are mature enough or if they are going to have sex or not. Fact is they ARE. Period, whether some of you like it or not you're going to have to deal with it. The new law still allows for legal sex between young people within a certain age range of each other.

It's about protecting them from older perv assholes who prey on them or are in a position of authority over them who force them into sexual situations, and specifically internet predators.
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Seems to make sense.

I would favor an international treaty to standardize the age of consent everywhere on the planet. Then there would be no excuse.. and no safe harbor for predators.
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With your reasoning we should also let them drink, vote and go off to war at 16 too. Sixteen year olds are NOT known to be mature, look at the posts here on GFY if you don't believe me. Hell half the 18 year olds here are not mature enough to post on a message board and behave...let alone drink,drive and fuck.
I completely agree...just because your a certain age definitely doesn't mean you act that way. That's for most people.
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as long as they aren't lying about their age


but yes, 14 and 15 year old girls should only be having gang bangs and oral sex parties with other teenagers, that makes sense
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16 is good. Should be 16 for all of America, too.

Why?

Because if you're old enough to operate motor vehicle, you're old enough for sex. Driving requires a great deal of maturity. One wrong move and you can kill yourself, your passenger, pedestrians, or other drivers. Hence, if the goverment deems a person mentally mature enough to drive a vehicle at age 16, you should be old enough at that age to also decide who you want to fuck.
I'd rather be in a car accident than get pregnant.
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Well 17 year olds can fight and go to war but in U.S.A. can't vote, have sex or drink.. I think that's crazy!
What makes you think 17 yr olds in the USA can't have sex?


(and what does all that have to do with Canada raising their age of consent after 116 years?)
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Sadly, the catalyst for this law change was an event involving a guy who used to post here on GFY traveling from the US to Canada to meet a 14yo boy.
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Sadly, the catalyst for this law change was an event involving a guy who used to post here on GFY traveling from the US to Canada to meet a 14yo boy.
Really. I did not know that.

How exactly do you come by this knowledge? Any further information on the incident?


From the few articles I've read on it today all I get is that it comes about in order to combat internet predators and those of that ilk, no specific cases mentioned.
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Really. I did not know that.

How exactly do you come by this knowledge? Any further information on the incident?


From the few articles I've read on it today all I get is that it comes about in order to combat internet predators and those of that ilk, no specific cases mentioned.
This happened a few years ago.

http://www.khou.com/news/local/montg...11f6c0070.html

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2005/...ng-050308.html

http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2005/mar/05031002.html

Canada ended up giving him time served and banned him from the country for a year. Then he came back into the US and got arrested here for CP on his computer. He is in prison now.
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16 is good. Should be 16 for all of America, too.

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Because if you're old enough to operate motor vehicle, you're old enough for sex. Driving requires a great deal of maturity. One wrong move and you can kill yourself, your passenger, pedestrians, or other drivers. Hence, if the goverment deems a person mentally mature enough to drive a vehicle at age 16, you should be old enough at that age to also decide who you want to fuck.
some are increasing the driving age to 18
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I completely agree...just because your a certain age definitely doesn't mean you act that way. That's for most people.
maybe there could also be a test for maturity
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Really?

That might actually be a good thing. Almost everyone I know who got their license before the age of 18 has been in some sort of bad accident. I was a late-bloomer and didn't get my license until I was 19. Guess what? I've never been in an accident. Well, one that was my fault, anyway. Some idiot backed into me a few months ago.

The age of consent in a few states is 16, I believe. I use to live in Maine and the age of consent there was 16.

I agree with the "global age of consent" idea.
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Good point.

We have all had 18 years old in our studio's who are as young minded as 12 year old.
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I always thought the USA's age was high.

Also, the whole "predator" and "pervert" thing never made sense to me... 16-17 year old girls can be smoking hot. Nowadays there are plenty of 16 year olds with rocking bodies and fully developped tits who dress like adults. Being interested in one sexually does not make one a pedofile because she's hot by adult standards.
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A pedophile is somebody who engages in sexual conduct with prepubescent children. Kids who haven't even hit puberty yet.

I highly doubt there are many 17-year-old chicks who haven't hit puberty yet. People are just way too quick to throw the word "pedophile" around.

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16 is the magic number in a lot of states.

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Alabama
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Alaska
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Arizona
18
Arkansas
16
California
18
Colorado
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Connecticut
15
D.C.
16
Delaware
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Florida
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Georgia
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Hawaii
14
Idaho
14
Illinois
16/17
Indiana
16
Iowa
18
Kansas
16
Kentucky
16 - [1]
Louisiana
17
Maine
16
Maryland
16
Massachusetts
16/18
Michigan
16
Minnesota
16
Mississippi
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Missouri
17
Montana
16
Nebraska
16
Nevada
16
New Hampshire
16/18
New Jersey
16/18
New Mexico
17
New York
17
North Carolina
16
North Dakota
18
Ohio
16
Oklahoma
16
Oregon
18
Pennsylvania
16
Rhode Island
16
South Carolina
14/16
South Dakota
16
Tennessee
18
Texas
17
Utah
16/18
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Virginia
15
Washington
16
West Virginia
16
Wisconsin
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Wyoming
16
Puerto Rico
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I don't think that will happen. It's better for a kid to get driving experience under the eye of their parents. If they raise it to 18, then there are millions of college age first time drivers out there that answer to nobody.

Another angle to this is insurance rates. If the insurance industry is going to lose all of their 16-17yo customers, those profits have to be made up elsewhere.
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I thought it was always 16.. my exgf I met when she was 15, she lived at home with her mom, who beat her and was crazy as well as a drug dealer.. at 20 I was sneaking in and staying the night in her basement lol "just shows how brave and stupid I was", when she turned 16 she left and stayed at my place, weeks later her mom asked us to come over.. she just wanted to talk.. what a dumb fucking move that was.. going there.. next thing i know her mom is pulling my exgf hair and kicking her in the house and I ran to my place and called the cops and had all my friends and neighbours outside in less than a couple mins...

ANYWAYS... the cops went in and took my exgf out of there, her mom stoned at the time, got charged for beating my exgf, and she was yelling at the cops about her leaving with me and shes only 16 and the cops said shes 16 she can do whatever she wants.

I know the story sounds horrible..

we had a daughter together years later, who just turned 9, man time flies.
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With your reasoning we should also let them drink, vote and go off to war at 16 too. Sixteen year olds are NOT known to be mature, look at the posts here on GFY if you don't believe me. Hell half the 18 year olds here are not mature enough to post on a message board and behave...let alone drink,drive and fuck.
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I thought it was always 16.. my exgf I met when she was 15, she lived at home with her mom, who beat her and was crazy as well as a drug dealer.. at 20 I was sneaking in and staying the night in her basement lol "just shows how brave and stupid I was", when she turned 16 she left and stayed at my place, weeks later her mom asked us to come over.. she just wanted to talk.. what a dumb fucking move that was.. going there.. next thing i know her mom is pulling my exgf hair and kicking her in the house and I ran to my place and called the cops and had all my friends and neighbours outside in less than a couple mins...

ANYWAYS... the cops went in and took my exgf out of there, her mom stoned at the time, got charged for beating my exgf, and she was yelling at the cops about her leaving with me and shes only 16 and the cops said shes 16 she can do whatever she wants.

I know the story sounds horrible..

we had a daughter together years later, who just turned 9, man time flies.
Spoken like a true sister fuckin' hillbilly ....................
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Old 05-01-2008, 10:47 PM   #42
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Spoken like a true sister fuckin' hillbilly ....................
Sadly, but my life sure wasnt boring.

remember were talking 10 years ago.. ALOT has changed. I look back now and ask myself wtf was I thinking.
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Yeah, but a person's maturity is generally the end result of their life experiences and/or hardships. I've met 16-year-old girls before who are way more mature than most 20-year-old girls.

For example, years ago my good friend lived in the shittiest trailer park you'll ever see with his little 16-year-old sister and his mom who was suffering from paranoid sychophrenia. If you met his little sister, you'd never believe she was only 16-years-old. She had one hell of a life. Was beaten as a child, had a paranoid sychophrenic for a mom, and lived in the biggest shithole trailer you'll ever see. She was forced at an early age to get a job and take care of most of the responsibities around the "house."

Meanwhile, I meet these spoiled little 20-year-old girls (and older) who live with mom and dad in gorgeous homes and have everything in life handed to them. They're about as immature as immature can get because, let's face it; they've never really had any life experience. Yet, they're still out getting the shit railed out of them.

Many variables in how mature a person is. It's all dependant on what you've seen and done in life. I've met very mature 16-year-olds. I've met very immature 16-year-olds. I've met very mature 20-year-olds. I've met very immature 20-year-olds.
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Sadly, but my life sure wasnt boring.

remember were talking 10 years ago.. ALOT has changed. I look back now and ask myself wtf was I thinking.
You were only four years apart in age, man. And, by the sounds of it, her life forced her to grow up quick. If you have a beautiful nine-year-old daughter out of the situation, I wouldn't regret anything if I were you.

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You were only four years apart in age, man. And, by the sounds of it, her life forced her to grow up quick. If you have a beautiful nine-year-old daughter out of the situation, I wouldn't regret anything if I were you.

I don't regret my daughter and never will, sadly my heart been broken in many ways dating a young imature person at the time.. we are good friends now thou, in fact in less than 24 hours I will be at my sisters wedding and my present girlfriend will be sitting with my ex. actually my 2 exs will be there, fuck im doomed.. my sisters best friend many years ago i think will be there too.. who i also dated.. FUCK
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16 is good. Should be 16 for all of America, too.

Why?

Because if you're old enough to operate motor vehicle, you're old enough for sex. Driving requires a great deal of maturity. One wrong move and you can kill yourself, your passenger, pedestrians, or other drivers. Hence, if the goverment deems a person mentally mature enough to drive a vehicle at age 16, you should be old enough at that age to also decide who you want to fuck.

Well then raise the age for a drivers license to 18. Which I think it should be anyways. the price in car insuranbce for the rest of us would drop considerably and keep a lot of bad drivers off the road.
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This discussion would never end. There is no magic number for maturity level, it varies from person to person and depends on many factors including but not limited to his environment, parental-teachings, education, company of friends etc.

A 14 years old can be mature enough to decide whether he/she want to have sex, drink or not .. or understand how to drive safely .. while a 19 years old chick can be dumb enough to get pregnant in a one-night stand etc.

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Interesting that those two states have it set that high, yet there's been talk for years about the mormons, and their elders having sex with 13 and 14 yr old girls in those states. If it's true I find it amazing that they keep getting away with it.
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Not everything is as clear as it seems. Yes it's 18 if the guys is more than 4 years older than the girl. As long as the guy is less than 4 years meaning 48 months then it's legal as long as she is 16. So for example a girl who is 16 and 3 months have sex with a guy who is 20 years and 3 months. If he's 20 and 4 months he goes to jail. So technically a 21 year old can have sex with an "underage" girl in my state under certain conditions.

Also if the girl is married then it doesn't matter. If a 16 year old parents agree to let her marry a 30 year old then he can fuck her and it's legal once they're married.
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