BrianL

Sticky, I am so glad you said this because this has been my Mantra at the shows for a while. Adult has always pushed the envelope in Technology, but in stuff like CDN, streaming, watermarking, DRM, etc. The Adult Market is very much behind. The company we are working with for the Encoding/ watermarking piece has been doing this for folks like Reuters, Amex, Microsoft, etc for years, and we now have access to the same technology and I think it will allow the adult space to take large leaps towards content protection and delivery the way mainstream is already doing it, but without the high costs.

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stickyfingerz

Yes that is awesome! Personally when I see all these companies in the mainstream such as www.hulu.com and www.netflix.com and www.vongo.com offering either only streaming media and able to deliver high quality full screen video I sit wondering why we cant? Vongo for instance allows movies to be downloaded, but they expire after your membership expires. They use a proprietary system yes, but I think on many fronts that is probably better.

Part of the big problem is that adult was an innovator. Our industry was the first that really delivered video to the masses. Now the crux of the issue is this. We didnt have the technology when adult started to limit members to any time frame on what they downloaded. So they became conditioned to a months membership as if they were purchasing whatever content they could download, rather than renting the content. So they were conditioned to expect that. Well with HD video we kind of have an opportunity to reverse that trend.

Yes customer this is what you will get now MUCH higher quality video, but you don't get to keep it. The whole model is skewed because of this, and its frustrating that we are also part of it due to there not really being any options out there to change the model. The content theft issue should be what motivates people to initate the change that has been needed for years, but that we didnt have the technology quite yet to accomplish at last try with the failed drm model. Its 2008 time to start showing mainstream who is the leader again.

Paul Markham

The reason many people steal or break the law is the fear of getting caught and the penalties. Instill fear into pirates and some will stop.

Let surfers who are looking to pirate content know we as an industry are going after them and making them pay and watch the problem reduce. It had to be taken to the boards that encourage pirates to steal.

Let them know we have ways of tracing them, we will then summons them and either take them to court or settle out of court. It's up to them. Massive task I know, but the results are simple. You drive them underground.

I posed the www.pak-inc.com links up on a surfers board that tells you how and where to get free porn. Scared the shit out of them. They were telling me it's not fair we should go after them and that was the sum total of their argument.

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Mike Dutch

Nice thread some good info in here

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stickyfingerz

Im just amazed how little backbitting there is so far hehe. These threads usually go bad.

BrianL

Damn.. Spot on. I am sort of the "new technology" Guy over here and we are talking to some companies about partnering up that re doing amazingly cool stuff to mesh high quality Media Delivery into DRM and pay by the drink transaction models which I think are the future for the adult online industry. The greatest challenge for me as it has been with CDN in the last year is just educating the industry on these technologies and how they can be valuable and creating methods by which they can transition to them without it becoming a huge undertaking which they absolutely do not have time for. Also there are so many different variations on the theme for how different programs deliver content and as you point out the ideology of the model they have committed to (monthly subscription all you can download.) In the next few months all the major Streaming providers CC/L3 included will be moving to Flash 3 and h.264 HD support. It will take a while for the adoption of this to kick in but once it does , and with the additional Flash DRM component I feel this will be the way most of the big players will be delivering their content. It could take a year to transition, but before that happens we hope to have some very cool tools in place to make it as painless and affordable a process as possible.

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stickyfingerz

This is without question the direction we need to be moving in.

DamianJ

Er, so how do 'we' trace them then Pauly?

Magic Pirate Links?

You seem to be suggesting something like the RIAA/MPAA did. And it a) failed spectacularly and b) doubled traffic at the pirate bay cos of the publicity of the cases.

stickyfingerz

Dont get distracted now. Look its not like you try to trace EVERY single file. Its more like this. You are surfing around looking in google to see if anyone is ripping your site off. You find 5 of your videos and 15 galleries up on some forum using rapidshare links. You download them and check the code or username or ip or whatever that is on the content. You find out it was user IamApirate that signed up 3 weeks ago. Now lets say we have the processors on board with this. You hit up the processor show him the proof of illegal sharing that breaks your tos. You cut him off from access to your paysite. With proof of illegal use the processor has a better chance to stop chargebacks (I would hope). The customers info is all listed when he signed up (yes outside of cc fraud). That customer is now denied access to any sites that processor handles. He tries to sign up to other sites and is denied access.

If everyone in the industry would unite on this the people that share just to get high fives from the community they share in would think twice. Porn is a staple to many people. They will only risk so much in order to get that high five.

stickyfingerz

Way too far down the page back to the top. Need more input. Hard to keep these things going.

stickyfingerz

Damn all the teeth be pulled I guess..

moeloubani

So I need something like this and I don't have $6k What's my best option here? I still have that project posted on GetAFreelancer but they have no idea what they're talking about.

stickyfingerz

Ya will be tough outside of adult programmers to find someone that "gets it"

Mike Dutch

NIce, I just read the whole thread.

Stickyfingerz, you got some good feedback and ideas. I agree on the fact that you can better do something than nothing. Its little effort to visually and non visually watermark the image. Its easy to create something that can track back the original user. I don't think you can do something then really. Visually will give a little advantage since the surfer needs to remove it which is effort. Contacting him afterwards when he removed it will scare him an probably end his membership (if he still has it), but then you can make him aware of the fact that maintaining a member site is a log of work and time. The last is only for self satisfying ;)

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stickyfingerz

Now if we could just get something that is easy for the whole industry to implement, and that is free or nearly free to get setup and use.

ark 123

Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment Adopts USVO'S Anti-Piracy System for Online Trade StreamingHighlighted Links


USA Video Interactive Corp.NIANTIC, CT--(Marketwire - April 2, 2008) - USA Video Interactive Corporation (OTCBB: USVO) (TSX-V: US) (BERLIN: USF) (FRANKFURT: USF) today announced that Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment (TCFHE) has gone "LIVE" with its new copy protection software, MediaEscort?, to protect the Studio's filmed entertainment content that is streamed via the Internet to its various trade business partners in advance of DVD availability.

MediaEscort's on-demand watermarking system automatically and seamlessly embeds SmartMarks?, imperceptible forensic information in every frame of video content, during Internet delivery to protect against piracy. TCFHE selected MediaEscort for online delivery of streaming media content for review by retail buyers, distributors and others that sell DVDs to the general public. The move provides the Studio's trade partners with the convenience of being able to view its product simply on their office computer.

"Professional pirates constantly prowl the Internet for streaming entertainment content that they might possibly hijack," stated Heather Field, Executive Director of Digital Marketing IT at TCFHE. "In using MediaEscort we can provide advance access to our content, conveniently and in a traceable manner."

"MediaEscort is a breakthrough for USVO product development that meets a growing demand for anti-piracy products for online media," said Edwin Molina, CEO of USVO. "We feel this is the beginning of a new era in content protection for intellectual property rights holders."

stickyfingerz

Mainstream making us look bad folks.

stickyfingerz

Bump for a friday. Surely there are some naysayers to say it cant be done..

moeloubani

Bump for any sort of solution that inputs any info into pictures, even something weak is fine!