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Barefootsies · 04-03-2008, 09:07 AM

and...

I can't find a solid, dependable, reasonable, NDA, long term programmer who can commit to deadlines for a project, much less a dozen, and some lasting 2-3 years.

Recently, I get a lot of small fries who haven't handled anything over a few hundred bucks. Also some who have experience, but poor feedback or ratings. Normally the small fries are fine, but not in the bigger projects.

Very frustrating.

stickyfingerz · 04-03-2008, 09:14 AM

When did you get degreened?

Oh and Feel for you on the designer thing. Tis tough.

L-Pink · 04-03-2008, 09:14 AM

Expensive, sometimes take a number to start, but finishes on time with good product.

http://www.wyldesites.com/newportfol...om%20Des igns

AssPirate · 04-03-2008, 09:19 AM

Maybe you just not yet encounter with someone who will actually pass your taste plus someone you can really depend on. Sometimes or most of the time you really need to spend more money to achieve what you need/want.

Pulsebucks · 04-03-2008, 09:21 AM

We can recommend this guy: http://outlinezero.net/

So far he has done 5 paysites for us, honest, always on time, we even sent money in advance and had no problems. Give him a try he just might be suitable for your projects.

tranza · 04-03-2008, 09:24 AM

It's very hard to find nice programmers nowadays.

candyflip · 04-03-2008, 09:25 AM

You say designer but are looking for programmer. Maybe that's your problem

Barefootsies · 04-03-2008, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

When did you get degreened? .

When indeed?

I still show up as green on my end.

Why · 04-03-2008, 09:33 AM

dont be a cheap skate. all the good programmers i know wouldnt touch a project under a few G's.

good code costs good money.

Barefootsies · 04-03-2008, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by AssPirate

Maybe you just not yet encounter with someone who will actually pass your taste plus someone you can really depend on. Sometimes or most of the time you really need to spend more money to achieve what you need/want.

I have no issues with paying a little more to have a designer who's....

1. On time with realistic due dates. (bigger projects 60-90 days)
2. Checks in weekly, and can show progress.
3. Agrees to benchmarks.
4. NDA

After being ripped off my AM-Jeff from Rage Cash, among a few others. I refuse to put 50% down on anything again. I have the cash to pay whatever you want. But I need some food on my plate before you get paid. AM-Jeff had all the designer classics covered in "how close he was" to having it finished. Complete with the computer down, the kids, family, internet and the whole book covered.

Never again.

Barefootsies · 04-03-2008, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Why

dont be a cheap skate. all the good programmers i know wouldnt touch a project under a few G's.

good code costs good money.

Maybe you didn't bother to read the subject line. $15,000-20,000.00 worth of designs on a handful - a dozen sites IS thousands.

coca-cola · 04-03-2008, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip

You say designer but are looking for programmer. Maybe that's your problem

haha! yeah! i think this is the problem....

Why · 04-03-2008, 09:36 AM

dont let one douchebag ruin your whole experience. i would never ask someone to work entirely upfront. money first. we all know this!

Barefootsies · 04-03-2008, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip

You say designer but are looking for programmer. Maybe that's your problem

If only it was that simple.

I've been looking over 50+ different programmer's bids on my projects, theirs portfolios. As well as previous customer reviews of their completed works all morning.

Why · 04-03-2008, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Maybe you didn't bother to read the subject line. $15,000-20,000.00 worth of designs on a handful of sites IS thousands.

the subject is about design, yet the post is about code(ie: 'programmer') work. so maybe you should learn how to type and not confuse people. also try to pick one subject and stay on it for ease in understanding by the reader.

i do in fact know how to read but thanks for caring though.

so which is it smartass, you looking for a programmer or a designer?

Barefootsies · 04-03-2008, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by coca-cola

haha! yeah! i think this is the problem....

lol... Yeah. I am sure that's it.

When a programmer reads about the whole project, what's needed in programming, the server set up, etc. Then I am sure they know what I am talking about. Especially from their responses.

I am posting the req's on freelancer sites. Not message boards.

Just venting my frustration here. I've tried the ole GFY in the past, and burned more than half the time. Even paying top dollar, with highly recommended folks.

I will give kudos to Machine Gun Kelly. He is one who does decent work.

Barefootsies · 04-03-2008, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Why

thanks for caring though.

I don't.

stickyfingerz · 04-03-2008, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

When indeed?

I still show up as green on my end.

wow weird you were non green and non sig for about 45 minutes at least. Weird.

Barefootsies · 04-03-2008, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

wow weird you were non green and non sig for about 45 minutes at least. Weird.

Maybe your stinkyfingerz got into my CP and screwed things up?

polish_aristocrat · 04-03-2008, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

wow weird you were non green and non sig for about 45 minutes at least. Weird.

I see green and no sig

Barefootsies · 04-03-2008, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

I see green and no sig

Maybe I am being punished for being your minion...

dropped9 · 04-03-2008, 12:30 PM

ok im confused... Are you looking for a designer or programmer?

Barefootsies · 04-03-2008, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Headless

ok im confused... Are you looking for a designer or programmer?

Programmer toots

Barefootsies · 04-03-2008, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pulsebucks

We can recommend this guy: http://outlinezero.net/

So far he has done 5 paysites for us, honest, always on time, we even sent money in advance and had no problems. Give him a try he just might be suitable for your projects.

I'll take a look chief.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 04-03-2008, 04:19 PM

So you paid out over 20K in design for 2008? So far?

Is that graphic design or web programming both?
What did you get?

iMind · 04-03-2008, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

lol... Yeah. I am sure that's it.

When a programmer reads about the whole project, what's needed in programming, the server set up, etc. Then I am sure they know what I am talking about. Especially from their responses.

I am posting the req's on freelancer sites. Not message boards.

Just venting my frustration here. I've tried the ole GFY in the past, and burned more than half the time. Even paying top dollar, with highly recommended folks.

I will give kudos to Machine Gun Kelly. He is one who does decent work.

Ya hard as hell to find good programmers these days.

MGK is great but I'm pretty he's not a programmer but a designer.

fluffygrrl · 04-03-2008, 04:33 PM

When you say programmer, do you mean php/html or do you mean linux guts and gore sort of programmer ?

Barefootsies · 04-03-2008, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ

So you paid out over 20K in design for 2008? So far?

Is that graphic design or web programming both?
What did you get?

I need to get that much done (slated/budgeted) for in 08.

Barefootsies · 04-03-2008, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iMind

Ya hard as hell to find good programmers these days.

Amen brother.

Still have another 50-100 I have to sort through tomorrow who've put in bids on the various projects. Most can be immediately eliminated. But with many, you have to look at their testimonials, previous works, log into their demos, etc. etc.

Barefootsies · 04-03-2008, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fluffygrrl

When you say programmer, do you mean php/html or do you mean linux guts and gore sort of programmer ?

Depends on which of the projects I am accepting bids on. Some are more programming. Some are design. Some are a combo.

fluffygrrl · 04-03-2008, 05:00 PM

Mkay, I got a couple of guys that have been doing good things for me, and they make a good team. Hit me up, we can prolly arrange something. Nothing to lose.

Barefootsies · 04-03-2008, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fluffygrrl

Mkay, I got a couple of guys that have been doing good things for me, and they make a good team. Hit me up, we can prolly arrange something. Nothing to lose.

Thank you delicious tootsies. It's worth a shot.

I have been doing nothing except checking out designers/programmers most of this week. Today was brutal. Still have another day or two of going through them, then narrowing the field.

Linguist · 04-03-2008, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Depends on which of the projects I am accepting bids on. Some are more programming. Some are design. Some are a combo.

I think I see your problem. Good programmers are seldomly good designers, good designers are almost never programmers. If you find one that's both expect to pay in the $80+/h range.

Why not find a separate designer and a separate programmer?

Loki · 04-03-2008, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Thank you delicious tootsies. It's worth a shot.

I have been doing nothing except checking out designers/programmers most of this week. Today was brutal. Still have another day or two of going through them, then narrowing the field.

Where in michigan are you located?

-Loki-

Violetta · 04-03-2008, 10:50 PM

If I was a programmer, Id be perfect! To bad I aint lol

Good luck on finding a good one!

Violetta · 04-03-2008, 10:53 PM

If I was a programmer, Id be perfect! To bad I aint lol

Good luck on finding a good one!

viencarl · 04-04-2008, 04:24 AM

If you are looking for programmer who can meet your deadline then you must contact primeoutsourcing .com

V_RocKs · 04-04-2008, 04:31 AM

All programmers are flaky to some degree.

A good programmer sees the entire world as a big program. You want to code efficiently and create functions, objects, etc and reuse that code throughout.

And that means they also want to get money without working too hard for it.

CyberHustler · 04-04-2008, 04:36 AM

See sig... Be Happy...

Barefootsies · 04-04-2008, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by vdc-Loki

Where in michigan are you located?

-Loki-

Kalamazoo

kmanrox · 04-04-2008, 06:00 AM

hit me on icq man or email [email protected], my boys over at http://450studio.com are new on the block but they put out cutting edge, high quality stuff and work on deadlines.. .based in .NL

Barefootsies · 04-04-2008, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockatansky

Good luck on finding a good one!

Thank you kind sire.

madm1k3 · 04-04-2008, 10:36 AM

I was having the same problem till I hired my design team, I sure I could help you out big time!!! Hit me up on ICQ, we should talk if your interested!

437 505 566

You'll be happy you did!!

Loki · 04-04-2008, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Kalamazoo

No kidding, I'm up north, in a town with a very 'gay' name, close to Traverse City.

I'm amazed at how many michaganders are not only on GFY but in the biz lol.

Hope you find what you need.

-Loki-

scottybuzz · 04-04-2008, 10:41 AM

they don't respect your authority barefoot. you need to show them whos boss.

Barefootsies · 04-04-2008, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vdc-Loki

No kidding, I'm up north, in a town with a very 'gay' name, close to Traverse City.

I'm amazed at how many michaganders are not only on GFY but in the biz lol.

Hope you find what you need.

-Loki-

Gaylord mwaha

Loki · 04-04-2008, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Gaylord mwaha

Yeah, gotta love this shit hole town.

Moved up here from Detroit about 10 years ago to get away from the crime and the noise, little did I know I would end up in between the Twilight Zone and Deliverance.

-Loki-

Barefootsies · 04-04-2008, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vdc-Loki

Yeah, gotta love this shit hole town.

Moved up here from Detroit about 10 years ago to get away from the crime and the noise, little did I know I would end up in between the Twilight Zone and Deliverance.

-Loki-

BWAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah. I have heard a story or two about the NW corner of lower MI.

Barefootsies · 04-06-2008, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madm1k3

I was having the same problem till I hired my design team, I sure I could help you out big time!!! Hit me up on ICQ, we should talk if your interested!

437 505 566

You'll be happy you did!!

NinjaSteve · 04-06-2008, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockatansky

If I was a programmer, Id be perfect! To bad I aint lol

Good luck on finding a good one!

LOL! Nice.

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