affiliate program domain change = fucked affiliates? - GoFuckYourself.com

Steve Awesome · 03-26-2008, 04:09 AM

Heads up. This strikes me as not quite so wise... why not a permanent redirect? Otherwise any affiliate who does not go out and find every instance of the old domain will lose sales, right?

From: ADP Models.com <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 3:40:09 AM
Subject: ADP Models Affiliates - Important News

Greetings from ADP Models.com and the ADP Cash Affiliate Program -

As many of you already know, I have been planning to change the website name from ADP Models to True Amateur Models. The new name is currently on the website and the domain name is still http://www.adpmodels.com but only as of now. You can also get to the website by going to http://www.trueamateurmodels.com. However, this will not always remain the same because the http://www.adpmodels.com domain name will eventually not be active any longer. With that being said, I need all of you to please change the http://www.adpmodels.com domain (in the beginning part of the gallery URL) and replace it with the http://www.trueamateurmodels.com domain name. The rest of the URL will remain the same as well as your affiliate code. Making this change will NOT screw up your sales so please do not worry about that. You will still get paid the same percentage (and from CCBill) for any surfers that sign up to http://www.trueamateurmodels.com. Everything will still remain the same. In fact, the name change from ADP Models to True Amateur Models is only going to make your sales even better! One of the reasons why is because the name True Amateur Models is a very good domain name to have. It is a very descriptive name that tells the surfers exactly what type of content is on the website before they even get to see it. ADP Models could mean anything. It could be a website that features non-amateur "playboy" types of girls on it or any other types of models. True Amateur Models, informs surfers exactly as to what TYPES of models are on the website. Another positive benefit regarding the name change is that many people tend to get the name ADP Models mixed up with APD Models. There really is nothing confusing about the name True Amateur Models. Not to mention, people are always asking me...."what does ADP stand for"? This name change is the best thing that has ever happend (sic) to the website. No doubt about that. It will also be the best thing for you as an affiliate to the website.

And yet, another positive aspect of this name change is that the website (and the hosted galleries) have bigger pictures in them! I already know that this is going to bring in more conversions because surfers like to see BIG pictures. Back in the day, before I became a webmaster running my own website, the ONLY websites that I would sign up with were the ones that had the BIG pictures on them...and many other people feel the same way. After all, why would a surfer want to sign up with a website that has little to medium sized pictures? The new size that is currently on the True Amateur Models hosted galleries (most of them) are sized at almost 1600x1200 instead of the ADP Models galleries...which were sized at only 1024x768.

So, I ask all of you to please change the gallery URL's that you are currently promoting by replacing the http://www.adpmodels.com domain URL with the http://www.trueamateurmodels.com domain URL so that you do not have any dead links on your websites. Please make the changes as soon as you possibly can because I will be contacting my host soon to have them make the switch from ADP Models to True Amateur Models and I do not want any of you to be promoting dead links. The changes need to be made by March 31'st (at the latest) as that will be the time when I have the host switch the name on the server. I do apoligize (sic) for any inconvience (sic) but this is only going to be better for you as an affiliate. If you have already been turning over sales with the ADP Models hosted galleries then you will definately (sic) remain turning over sales with the True Amateur Models hosted galleries because the content, website, models and the hosted galleries are EXACTLY the same as before but have only gotten better. For the webmasters that create their own galleries, please change the ADP Models logo on your web pages to a True Amateur Models logo. And for everyone...please do not hesitate in contacting me if you have any questions.

You can see the True Amateur Models hosted galleries and promotional banners here:
http://www.adpmodels.com/affiliategalleries.html

Best Regards,
Ray Edwards
http://www.trueamateurmodels.com

SayWhut · 03-26-2008, 04:19 AM

Yeah I got the email too. They could always do a 301 redirect but I don't know if this carries over the CCBill referral cookie???

V_RocKs · 03-26-2008, 04:19 AM

Perhaps they are high on crack cocaine?

V_RocKs · 03-26-2008, 04:20 AM

I believe CCBILL handles this shit for you... But I do believe you have to set it all up to do so.

rowan · 03-26-2008, 04:40 AM

Why is he in such a rush to get rid of the old domain?

I doubt even 50% of the affiliates will have switched their links in the 5-6 days between the announcement and the time he's specified for the cutover.

u-Bob · 03-26-2008, 05:47 AM

Thnx, added them to my shitlist...

rayadp05 · 04-18-2008, 06:48 PM

Ray Edwards here...I am the webmaster for the site. I am really not sure why "Steve Awesome" did not email me regarding his concern before coming to GFY to post this....especially being that he does not have an understanding as to what is going on. However, I will try to clarify a few things.

The name ADP Models was a name that I had used for nearly 3 years until the processing company "ADP" sent me a cease and desist letter in the mail claiming that I was "tarnishing" their trademark. I spoke with a few different attorneys and they all informed me that I should probably change the website name. I don't believe that "ADP" would have ever had a case regarding "trademark infringement" being that both of the names are different from one another but apparently, they have a pretty good case regarding "trademark dilution"...according to the attorneys that I spoke with.

It was never really that big of an issue with me being that I had already been thinking of changing the name anyways but just never did. I will never change the website name again though...that's for damn sure. It has been alot of work having to re-watermark all of my content as well as having to perform many other tasks. The company "ADP" are requesting that I transfer the adpmodels domain name over to them and to cease all promotion of the term "ADP". "ADP" are a multi-million dollar company that has been around for nearly 60 years and they process for over 600,000 businesses worldwide so any court would probably side with them instead of with some pornographer running an amateur site and being that I had been thinking of changing the name anyways...I decided to comply with their wishes. Why not? Hell, I was already getting ready to change the name before any of this happened anyways. Not to mention, "ADP" has what is considered as being a "famous" trademark and with that being said, no confusion has to be proven within the marketplace. With most trademark issues, confusion has to be proven to have taken place within the marketplace but not if the company has a "famous" trademark. Apparently, tarnishment alone is enough for them to have a case against you. Try launching an adult site called "porn cola" and see how far you get. Obviously, a porn site has nothing to do with a soft drink but again...coca cola has a "famous" trademark and tarnishment would be enough for them to drag the issue through court...and they would win. Believe me, you would have spent ALOT of money trying to defend your case...only to lose your website and business in the end.

I have already spoken with CCBill on SEVERAL occassions regarding the affiliate setup and NOTHING will change as far as my affiliates being paid their commissions nor will their affiliate codes change either. Again, everything has been taken care of. Affiliates will still be able to make sales after the adpmodels domain is no longer active...that is, as long as they are linking to the true amateur models domain. That was the reason for sending out that email to all of my affiliates. I have sent out several emails and started sending them out several weeks ago. Todays date is 4-18-08 and the adpmodels domain is still active. However, I need to transfer it by the 30th of this month. So, no "rowan"...I was not in a hurry to get rid of my domain....I just wanted to give my affiliates plenty of notice so that they could change out any links that needed to be changed....and again, several emails have been sent out regarding this situation.

As far as the redirect, I contacted my hosting company to ask them what the best solution would be as far as continuing to receive traffic to the adpmodels domain as well as to the true amateur models domain and they set up the redirect for me. As of now, if anyone signs up with the site through the adpmodels domain OR through the true amateur models domain, they will still be able to gain access to the members area. NOTHING has changed but the website name. Surfers can get to the site through either domain. However, after I transfer the domain name, surfers will have to go to the website which of course, will be the true amateur models domain.

I have alot of affiliates that are pulling in nearly 15 (or even more) sales per day....and that's PER affiliate so if you ask my affiliates, nothing has changed at all regarding them getting their commissions and they are very satisfied with promoting the hosted galleries and banners. I don't really see what the big issue is Steve. I changed my website name and instead of letting go of the adpmodels domain too soon....surfers can get to the site through either domain. I am no expert when it comes to redirects but this is the way my hosting company set it up. All I am doing is providing a way for surfers to get to the site that may not have bookmarked the new domain as of yet. The next time you have a question Steve....why don't you try sending me an email instead coming to GFY and trying to make me look as if I am crooked and trying to cheat my affiliates? Believe me, I am the LAST person that would EVER try to fuck over my affiliates. It would just simply never happen. So again, get into touch with me if you have any concerns and they will properly be addressed. The same goes for any of my other affiliates. Again, nothing has changed regarding my affilliates getting paid their commissions or anything like. I have set up everything with CCBill in order for all of my affiliates to continue making sales....as most of them are doing extremely well with and are very happy with being associated with the program.

SmokeyTheBear · 04-18-2008, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rayadp05

Ray Edwards here...I am the webmaster for the site. I am really not sure why "Steve Awesome" did not email me regarding his concern before coming to GFY to post this....especially being that he does not have an understanding as to what is going on. However, I will try to clarify a few things.

The name ADP Models was a name that I had used for nearly 3 years until the processing company "ADP" sent me a cease and desist letter in the mail claiming that I was "tarnishing" their trademark. I spoke with a few different attorneys and they all informed me that I should probably change the website name. I don't believe that "ADP" would have ever had a case regarding "trademark infringement" being that both of the names are different from one another but apparently, they have a pretty good case regarding "trademark dilution"...according to the attorneys that I spoke with.

It was never really that big of an issue with me being that I had already been thinking of changing the name anyways but just never did. I will never change the website name again though...that's for damn sure. It has been alot of work having to re-watermark all of my content as well as having to perform many other tasks. The company "ADP" are requesting that I transfer the adpmodels domain name over to them and to cease all promotion of the term "ADP". "ADP" are a multi-million dollar company that has been around for nearly 60 years and they process for over 600,000 businesses worldwide so any court would probably side with them instead of with some pornographer running an amateur site and being that I had been thinking of changing the name anyways...I decided to comply with their wishes. Why not? Hell, I was already getting ready to change the name before any of this happened anyways. Not to mention, "ADP" has what is considered as being a "famous" trademark and with that being said, no confusion has to be proven within the marketplace. With most trademark issues, confusion has to be proven to have taken place within the marketplace but not if the company has a "famous" trademark. Apparently, tarnishment alone is enough for them to have a case against you. Try launching an adult site called "porn cola" and see how far you get. Obviously, a porn site has nothing to do with a soft drink but again...coca cola has a "famous" trademark and tarnishment would be enough for them to drag the issue through court...and they would win. Believe me, you would have spent ALOT of money trying to defend your case...only to lose your website and business in the end.

I have already spoken with CCBill on SEVERAL occassions regarding the affiliate setup and NOTHING will change as far as my affiliates being paid their commissions nor will their affiliate codes change either. Again, everything has been taken care of. Affiliates will still be able to make sales after the adpmodels domain is no longer active...that is, as long as they are linking to the true amateur models domain. That was the reason for sending out that email to all of my affiliates. I have sent out several emails and started sending them out several weeks ago. Todays date is 4-18-08 and the adpmodels domain is still active. However, I need to transfer it by the 30th of this month. So, no "rowan"...I was not in a hurry to get rid of my domain....I just wanted to give my affiliates plenty of notice so that they could change out any links that needed to be changed....and again, several emails have been sent out regarding this situation.

As far as the redirect, I contacted my hosting company to ask them what the best solution would be as far as continuing to receive traffic to the adpmodels domain as well as to the true amateur models domain and they set up the redirect for me. As of now, if anyone signs up with the site through the adpmodels domain OR through the true amateur models domain, they will still be able to gain access to the members area. NOTHING has changed but the website name. Surfers can get to the site through either domain. However, after I transfer the domain name, surfers will have to go to the website which of course, will be the true amateur models domain.

I have alot of affiliates that are pulling in nearly 15 (or even more) sales per day....and that's PER affiliate so if you ask my affiliates, nothing has changed at all regarding them getting their commissions and they are very satisfied with promoting the hosted galleries and banners. I don't really see what the big issue is Steve. I changed my website name and instead of letting go of the adpmodels domain too soon....surfers can get to the site through either domain. I am no expert when it comes to redirects but this is the way my hosting company set it up. All I am doing is providing a way for surfers to get to the site that may not have bookmarked the new domain as of yet. The next time you have a question Steve....why don't you try sending me an email instead coming to GFY and trying to make me look as if I am crooked and trying to cheat my affiliates? Believe me, I am the LAST person that would EVER try to fuck over my affiliates. It would just simply never happen. So again, get into touch with me if you have any concerns and they will properly be addressed. The same goes for any of my other affiliates. Again, nothing has changed regarding my affilliates getting paid their commissions or anything like. I have set up everything with CCBill in order for all of my affiliates to continue making sales....as most of them are doing extremely well with and are very happy with being associated with the program.

get some new lawyers,

theres no reason you should be giving them the domain, give it to me and i will handle the complaints and i will keep all your affiliates link codes working

BV · 04-18-2008, 07:26 PM

This is a perfect example for affiliates to always send their traffic to their sponsors thru a simple redirect script.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 04-18-2008, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV

This is a perfect example for affiliates to always send their traffic to their sponsors thru a simple redirect script.

started doing this a while back with a php clicktracker, i won't be adding a link anywhere in the future without one.

that being said, at least ray provided a warning email, gave notice, and has a somewhat reasonable explanation for his move. maybe a little more time could be given, but he could have gone about things a lot worse ways...

rayadp05 · 04-18-2008, 07:53 PM

And just to let everyone know...most of my affiliates have changed out their links and so far, I have not received any emails from any pissed off affiliates. Sure, there are a few that have not made the link changes as of yet due to the fact that their emails bounced back to me but most of them completely understand my situation and have been more than willing to make the changes.

GotGauge · 04-18-2008, 07:54 PM

I suggest you get new Lawyers!!!

There are several companies using ADP
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=adp

ADP means Many Things
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADP

http://web.archive.org/web/200510250...main-page.html
(angelical dreams productions)

GetSCORECash · 04-18-2008, 08:01 PM

I can see a point of changeing the name to get a new marketing spin, but they had a great short name.

rayadp05 · 04-18-2008, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GotGauge

I suggest you get new Lawyers!!!

There are several companies using ADP
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=adp

ADP means Many Things
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADP

http://web.archive.org/web/200510250...main-page.html
(angelical dreams productions)

But they are not "porn" companies therefore, no "tarnishment" is taking place. "ADP" are not going to care if an ice cream shop has the letters ADP in the front of their name but a porn website...that's a different story. That adpmodels link you posted was the way my site looked a long time ago. Hell, it's been a long time since I've seen that!

Not to mention, the company "ADP" has many, many domains associated with it's company. This is not just some mom and pop business. They are a major multi million dollar company that has offices worldwide and they do not want to be associated with a porn website using the letters ADP as an abbreviated term. Believe me, I have researched all of my options.

GetSCORECash · 04-18-2008, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rayadp05

The name ADP Models was a name that I had used for nearly 3 years until the processing company "ADP" sent me a cease and desist letter in the mail claiming that I was "tarnishing" their trademark. I spoke with a few different attorneys and they all informed me that I should probably change the website name. I don't believe that "ADP" would have ever had a case regarding "trademark infringement" being that both of the names are different from one another but apparently, they have a pretty good case regarding "trademark dilution"...according to the attorneys that I spoke with. .

Just read this... they wouldn't have won, but you would of spent a furtune defending your self against a company like this.

It's best to avoid lawsuits, even if you are in the right.

AP Cash · 04-18-2008, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rayadp05

Try launching an adult site called "porn cola" and see how far you get.

Sorry to bust your bubble, but cola is not a trademarked name, it is a flavor

My guess is you didn't even talk to a attorney and you let the big boys scare you out of your domain and now your affiliates

Ron Bennett · 04-18-2008, 10:27 PM

Even if another company truly has TM rights (I'm not so sure ADP does here; -did you contact an attorney? -have you signed anything yet?), one can often negotiate a settlement in which a particular set of urls / emails will continue to function as redirects well into the future.

Ron

p.s. check out DNForum.com legal forum and/or Namepros.com - you'll find lists of experienced attorneys that specialize in domain name legal issues.

rayadp05 · 04-19-2008, 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AP Cash

Sorry to bust your bubble, but cola is not a trademarked name, it is a flavor

My guess is you didn't even talk to a attorney and you let the big boys scare you out of your domain and now your affiliates

Well, maybe your right about the term "cola" not being trademarked. Now that I think about it, it seems as though at some point in time, I did read that "cola" was not a trademarkable term. There are several soft drink companies that use that term so you may have a point. I was just trying to make my point as far as using a trademarked name as part of your website name that could possibly result in tarnishing against that particular name.

As I stated before...I did speak with an attorney. In fact, I spoke with more than one and they all told me the same thing. Also, as I previously stated, I was already planning to change the name anyways so nobody "scared" me into doing anything. Believe me, that's not my style at all. I just didn't feel like spending thousands upon thousands of dollars trying to fight a case that I would have probably lost in the end....when I had already been planning on making the name change before any of this even happened in the first place. If you cannot listen to the advice of several attorneys that specialize in trademark issues then who can you listen to? The attorneys that I spoke with all informed me that I would have a very hard (if not impossible) case against me so believe whatever you want. It really doesn't make any difference to me.

rayadp05 · 04-19-2008, 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Bennett

Even if another company truly has TM rights (I'm not so sure ADP does here; -did you contact an attorney? -have you signed anything yet?), one can often negotiate a settlement in which a particular set of urls / emails will continue to function as redirects well into the future.

Ron

p.s. check out DNForum.com legal forum and/or Namepros.com - you'll find lists of experienced attorneys that specialize in domain name legal issues.

Thank's Ron. I'll check out those places that you posted.

fluffygrrl · 04-19-2008, 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob

Thnx, added them to my shitlist...

Seems like he didn't really have a choice.

NinjaSteve · 04-19-2008, 03:49 AM

That sucks that this is happening to your domain. Damn!

03-26-2008, 04:09 AM	#1
Steve Awesome Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Mid-West! Posts: 1,575	site domain change = fucked affiliates? Heads up. This strikes me as not quite so wise... why not a permanent redirect? Otherwise any affiliate who does not go out and find every instance of the old domain will lose sales, right? From: ADP Models.com <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 3:40:09 AM Subject: ADP Models Affiliates - Important News Greetings from ADP Models.com and the ADP Cash Affiliate Program - As many of you already know, I have been planning to change the website name from ADP Models to True Amateur Models. The new name is currently on the website and the domain name is still http://www.adpmodels.com but only as of now. You can also get to the website by going to http://www.trueamateurmodels.com. However, this will not always remain the same because the http://www.adpmodels.com domain name will eventually not be active any longer. With that being said, I need all of you to please change the http://www.adpmodels.com domain (in the beginning part of the gallery URL) and replace it with the http://www.trueamateurmodels.com domain name. The rest of the URL will remain the same as well as your affiliate code. Making this change will NOT screw up your sales so please do not worry about that. You will still get paid the same percentage (and from CCBill) for any surfers that sign up to http://www.trueamateurmodels.com. Everything will still remain the same. In fact, the name change from ADP Models to True Amateur Models is only going to make your sales even better! One of the reasons why is because the name True Amateur Models is a very good domain name to have. It is a very descriptive name that tells the surfers exactly what type of content is on the website before they even get to see it. ADP Models could mean anything. It could be a website that features non-amateur "playboy" types of girls on it or any other types of models. True Amateur Models, informs surfers exactly as to what TYPES of models are on the website. Another positive benefit regarding the name change is that many people tend to get the name ADP Models mixed up with APD Models. There really is nothing confusing about the name True Amateur Models. Not to mention, people are always asking me...."what does ADP stand for"? This name change is the best thing that has ever happend (sic) to the website. No doubt about that. It will also be the best thing for you as an affiliate to the website. And yet, another positive aspect of this name change is that the website (and the hosted galleries) have bigger pictures in them! I already know that this is going to bring in more conversions because surfers like to see BIG pictures. Back in the day, before I became a webmaster running my own website, the ONLY websites that I would sign up with were the ones that had the BIG pictures on them...and many other people feel the same way. After all, why would a surfer want to sign up with a website that has little to medium sized pictures? The new size that is currently on the True Amateur Models hosted galleries (most of them) are sized at almost 1600x1200 instead of the ADP Models galleries...which were sized at only 1024x768. So, I ask all of you to please change the gallery URL's that you are currently promoting by replacing the http://www.adpmodels.com domain URL with the http://www.trueamateurmodels.com domain URL so that you do not have any dead links on your websites. Please make the changes as soon as you possibly can because I will be contacting my host soon to have them make the switch from ADP Models to True Amateur Models and I do not want any of you to be promoting dead links. The changes need to be made by March 31'st (at the latest) as that will be the time when I have the host switch the name on the server. I do apoligize (sic) for any inconvience (sic) but this is only going to be better for you as an affiliate. If you have already been turning over sales with the ADP Models hosted galleries then you will definately (sic) remain turning over sales with the True Amateur Models hosted galleries because the content, website, models and the hosted galleries are EXACTLY the same as before but have only gotten better. For the webmasters that create their own galleries, please change the ADP Models logo on your web pages to a True Amateur Models logo. And for everyone...please do not hesitate in contacting me if you have any questions. You can see the True Amateur Models hosted galleries and promotional banners here: http://www.adpmodels.com/affiliategalleries.html Best Regards, Ray Edwards http://www.trueamateurmodels.com __________________ *The AbbieCash Porn Network. Billing processing by CCBILL. Join our affiliate program today. RealDollSex \| AbbieTeen \| GamerChicks \| ModelTexans \| HottieCams Nintendo 3DS Porn Blog \| Steve's Adult Industry Blog \| Abbie Bueller's Porn Blog Last edited by Steve Awesome; 03-26-2008 at 04:11 AM..*

04-18-2008, 06:48 PM	#7
rayadp05 TRUEAMATEURMODELS.COM Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: TrueAmateurModels.com Posts: 4,187	Ray Edwards here...I am the webmaster for the site. I am really not sure why "Steve Awesome" did not email me regarding his concern before coming to GFY to post this....especially being that he does not have an understanding as to what is going on. However, I will try to clarify a few things. The name ADP Models was a name that I had used for nearly 3 years until the processing company "ADP" sent me a cease and desist letter in the mail claiming that I was "tarnishing" their trademark. I spoke with a few different attorneys and they all informed me that I should probably change the website name. I don't believe that "ADP" would have ever had a case regarding "trademark infringement" being that both of the names are different from one another but apparently, they have a pretty good case regarding "trademark dilution"...according to the attorneys that I spoke with. It was never really that big of an issue with me being that I had already been thinking of changing the name anyways but just never did. I will never change the website name again though...that's for damn sure. It has been alot of work having to re-watermark all of my content as well as having to perform many other tasks. The company "ADP" are requesting that I transfer the adpmodels domain name over to them and to cease all promotion of the term "ADP". "ADP" are a multi-million dollar company that has been around for nearly 60 years and they process for over 600,000 businesses worldwide so any court would probably side with them instead of with some pornographer running an amateur site and being that I had been thinking of changing the name anyways...I decided to comply with their wishes. Why not? Hell, I was already getting ready to change the name before any of this happened anyways. Not to mention, "ADP" has what is considered as being a "famous" trademark and with that being said, no confusion has to be proven within the marketplace. With most trademark issues, confusion has to be proven to have taken place within the marketplace but not if the company has a "famous" trademark. Apparently, tarnishment alone is enough for them to have a case against you. Try launching an adult site called "porn cola" and see how far you get. Obviously, a porn site has nothing to do with a soft drink but again...coca cola has a "famous" trademark and tarnishment would be enough for them to drag the issue through court...and they would win. Believe me, you would have spent ALOT of money trying to defend your case...only to lose your website and business in the end. I have already spoken with CCBill on SEVERAL occassions regarding the affiliate setup and NOTHING will change as far as my affiliates being paid their commissions nor will their affiliate codes change either. Again, everything has been taken care of. Affiliates will still be able to make sales after the adpmodels domain is no longer active...that is, as long as they are linking to the true amateur models domain. That was the reason for sending out that email to all of my affiliates. I have sent out several emails and started sending them out several weeks ago. Todays date is 4-18-08 and the adpmodels domain is still active. However, I need to transfer it by the 30th of this month. So, no "rowan"...I was not in a hurry to get rid of my domain....I just wanted to give my affiliates plenty of notice so that they could change out any links that needed to be changed....and again, several emails have been sent out regarding this situation. As far as the redirect, I contacted my hosting company to ask them what the best solution would be as far as continuing to receive traffic to the adpmodels domain as well as to the true amateur models domain and they set up the redirect for me. As of now, if anyone signs up with the site through the adpmodels domain OR through the true amateur models domain, they will still be able to gain access to the members area. NOTHING has changed but the website name. Surfers can get to the site through either domain. However, after I transfer the domain name, surfers will have to go to the website which of course, will be the true amateur models domain. I have alot of affiliates that are pulling in nearly 15 (or even more) sales per day....and that's PER affiliate so if you ask my affiliates, nothing has changed at all regarding them getting their commissions and they are very satisfied with promoting the hosted galleries and banners. I don't really see what the big issue is Steve. I changed my website name and instead of letting go of the adpmodels domain too soon....surfers can get to the site through either domain. I am no expert when it comes to redirects but this is the way my hosting company set it up. All I am doing is providing a way for surfers to get to the site that may not have bookmarked the new domain as of yet. The next time you have a question Steve....why don't you try sending me an email instead coming to GFY and trying to make me look as if I am crooked and trying to cheat my affiliates? Believe me, I am the LAST person that would EVER try to fuck over my affiliates. It would just simply never happen. So again, get into touch with me if you have any concerns and they will properly be addressed. The same goes for any of my other affiliates. Again, nothing has changed regarding my affilliates getting paid their commissions or anything like. I have set up everything with CCBill in order for all of my affiliates to continue making sales....as most of them are doing extremely well with and are very happy with being associated with the program. __________________ TrueAmateurModels.com Twitter TrueAmateurModels.com Affiliate Program

04-18-2008, 07:53 PM	#11
rayadp05 TRUEAMATEURMODELS.COM Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: TrueAmateurModels.com Posts: 4,187	And just to let everyone know...most of my affiliates have changed out their links and so far, I have not received any emails from any pissed off affiliates. Sure, there are a few that have not made the link changes as of yet due to the fact that their emails bounced back to me but most of them completely understand my situation and have been more than willing to make the changes. __________________ TrueAmateurModels.com Twitter TrueAmateurModels.com Affiliate Program Last edited by rayadp05; 04-18-2008 at 07:55 PM..

04-18-2008, 07:54 PM	#12
GotGauge Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: USA Posts: 3,072	I suggest you get new Lawyers!!! There are several companies using ADP http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=adp ADP means Many Things http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADP http://web.archive.org/web/200510250...main-page.html (angelical dreams productions) __________________ ICQ 22264474 [email protected]

04-18-2008, 08:01 PM	#13
GetSCORECash Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 5,527	I can see a point of changeing the name to get a new marketing spin, but they had a great short name. __________________ \| skype: getscorecash \| ICQ: 59-271-063 \| New Sites: \| SCORELAND2 \| Roku Channel SCORETV.TV \| 60PLUSMILFS \| \| Big Tit Hooker \| Tits And Tugs \| Big Boobs POV \| Karla James \| \| Naughty Foot Jobs \| Linsey's World \| Busty Arianna Sinn \| Get SCORE Cash \|

03-26-2008, 04:19 AM	#2
SayWhut Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: United Blingdom Posts: 962	Yeah I got the email too. They could always do a 301 redirect but I don't know if this carries over the CCBill referral cookie???

03-26-2008, 04:19 AM	#3
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,422	Perhaps they are high on crack cocaine?

03-26-2008, 04:20 AM	#4
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,422	I believe CCBILL handles this shit for you... But I do believe you have to set it all up to do so.

03-26-2008, 04:40 AM	#5
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	Why is he in such a rush to get rid of the old domain? I doubt even 50% of the affiliates will have switched their links in the 5-6 days between the announcement and the time he's specified for the cutover.

03-26-2008, 05:47 AM	#6
u-Bob there's no $$$ in porn Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: icq: 195./568.-230 (btw: not getting offline msgs) Posts: 33,063	Thnx, added them to my shitlist...

04-18-2008, 07:26 PM	#9
BV wtf Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Bikini State, FL USA Posts: 10,914	This is a perfect example for affiliates to always send their traffic to their sponsors thru a simple redirect script.

04-18-2008, 10:27 PM	#17
Ron Bennett Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,653	Even if another company truly has TM rights (I'm not so sure ADP does here; -did you contact an attorney? -have you signed anything yet?), one can often negotiate a settlement in which a particular set of urls / emails will continue to function as redirects well into the future. Ron p.s. check out DNForum.com legal forum and/or Namepros.com - you'll find lists of experienced attorneys that specialize in domain name legal issues. __________________ Domagon - Website Management and Domain Name Sales

04-19-2008, 03:49 AM	#21
NinjaSteve Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 11,089	That sucks that this is happening to your domain. Damn! __________________ ...