Bush Knocked The Towers

[J. Falcon]

Tell The Truth Nigga

[xmas13]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=yWvrBveIz-s

[Babaganoosh]

Haha, when did people start believing a bunch of barely literate rappers?

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

Haha, when did people start believing a bunch of barely literate rappers?

Who said I believed it? But when you got people coming out like this and saying, shit is fucked up.

[Fap]

woowww mos def is pushing it haha

[J. Falcon]

I pledge no allegiance, nigga fuck the president's speeches
I'm baptized by America and covered in leeches
The dirty water that bleaches your soul and your facial features
Drownin' you in propaganda that they spit through the speakers
And if you speak about the evil that the government does
The Patriot Act'll track you to the type of your blood
They try to frame you, and say you was tryna sell drugs
And throw a federal indictment on niggaz to show you love
This shit is run by fake Christians, fake politicians
Look at they mansions, then look at the conditions you live in
All they talk about is terrorism on television
They tell you to listen, but they don't really tell you they mission
They funded Al-Qaeda, and now they blame the Muslim religion
Even though Bin Laden, was a CIA tactician
They gave him billions of dollars, and they funded his purpose
Fahrenheit 9/11, that's just scratchin' the surface

[J. Falcon]

They say the rebels in Iraq still fight for Saddam
But that's bullshit, I'll show you why it's totally wrong
Cuz if another country invaded the hood tonight
It'd be warfare through Harlem, and Washington Heights
I wouldn't be fightin' for Bush or White America's dream
I'd be fightin' for my people's survival and self-esteem
I wouldn't fight for racist churches from the south, my nigga
I'd be fightin' to keep the occupation out, my nigga
You ever clock someone who talk shit, or look at you wrong?
Imagine if they shot at you, and was rapin' your moms
And of course Saddam Hussein had chemical weapons
We sold him that shit, after Ronald Reagan's election
Mercenary contractors fightin' a new era
Corporate military bankin' off the war on terror
They controllin' the ghetto, with the failed attack
Tryna distract the fact that they engineerin' the crack
So I'm strapped like Lee Malvo holdin' a sniper rifle
These bullets'll touch your kids, and I don't mean like Michael
Your body be sent to the morgue, stripped down and recycled
I fire on house niggaz that support you and like you
Cuz innocent people get murdered in the struggle daily
And poor people never get shit and struggle daily
This ain't no alien conspiracy theory, this shit is real
Written on the dollar underneath the Masonic seal

[J. Falcon]

Man the fucking truth hurts like a motherfucker I tell you, call this video what you will, but just about every point these rappers make is fucking valid.

[jpwhits]

I don't particularly consider Mos Def as illiterate as the rest of them.

[Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life]

I can't fucking stand rap, but I still like Mos Def, at least he's trying to say something with his shit. I love how many dumb old fucking yanks sit around pawning all this off as conspiracy mumbo jumbo. It's not like the guy is saying that the CIA blew up the towers in a controlled demolition. he's saying EXACTLY what is fucking happening. Anyone who passed this off as illiterate conspiracy rambling is completely ignorant to anything happening in their world outside what the squawk box is telling them.

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by ismokeblunts

I can't fucking stand rap, but I still like Mos Def, at least he's trying to say something with his shit. I love how many dumb old fucking yanks sit around pawning all this off as conspiracy mumbo jumbo. It's not like the guy is saying that the CIA blew up the towers in a controlled demolition. he's saying EXACTLY what is fucking happening. Anyone who passed this off as illiterate conspiracy rambling is completely ignorant to anything happening in their world outside what the squawk box is telling them.

[The Dawg]

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

Haha, when did people start believing a bunch of barely literate rappers?

You should crawl out of your little box more often.

[J. Falcon]

"This aint no alien conspiracy theory this shit is real"

[Darkland]

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

Man the fucking truth hurts like a motherfucker I tell you, call this video what you will, but just about every point these rappers make is fucking valid.

They can point at all the facts they want, whether you're a conspiracy nut or believe Osama Bin Laden did it, when it comes down to it there really isn't enough "TRUE FACTS" to base an assumption one way or the other. It's all a matter of they said this or they said that.

There is always going to be lines drawn and sides taken, regardless of what the truth is and there is no shortage of people with a dissatisfaction for the current administration that no matter WHAT happens, they will always look for something evil to pin on the government or instantly cling to something that sheds a cloud of doubt on the powers that be.

This whole debate has nothing to do with the "Truth", it's all about wanting to point a finger and saying, "See... It's their fault, They are Evil, They are whats wrong with the world today!" Just like a spoiled teenager who despises not the parent themselves but what they represent.

If you say you know the truth because you saw it on a website, or on a for-hire news media channel or read it somewhere then maybe searching for a truth that cant be found isn't the answer. Maybe there might be a more productive way to voice your dissatisfaction with the government.

They started it right in the sixties but somewhere along the line we just gave up and decided to simply point fingers from our couch or computer chair...

[dicknixon]

I think this is Immortal Technique, Mos Def just does the chorus. Immortal Technique is pretty good, just a little preachy after 4 or 5 songs. . .

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by Darkland

They can point at all the facts they want, whether you're a conspiracy nut or believe Osama Bin Laden did it, when it comes down to it there really isn't enough "TRUE FACTS" to base an assumption one way or the other. It's all a matter of they said this or they said that.

There is always going to be lines drawn and sides taken, regardless of what the truth is and there is no shortage of people with a dissatisfaction for the current administration that no matter WHAT happens, they will always look for something evil to pin on the government or instantly cling to something that sheds a cloud of doubt on the powers that be.

This whole debate has nothing to do with the "Truth", it's all about wanting to point a finger and saying, "See... It's their fault, They are Evil, They are whats wrong with the world today!" Just like a spoiled teenager who despises not the parent themselves but what they represent.

If you say you know the truth because you saw it on a website, or on a for-hire news media channel or read it somewhere then maybe searching for a truth that cant be found isn't the answer. Maybe there might be a more productive way to voice your dissatisfaction with the government.

They started it right in the sixties but somewhere along the line we just gave up and decided to simply point fingers from our couch or computer chair...

I totally dissagree. This is happening because its redundant we're ALL (not just Americans) getting fucked in the ass and acting like we dont mind. And this video wont make a goddamn difference in the end, but Im glad that some "artists" have the balls to say it.

[geedub]

Originally Posted by Darkland

They can point at all the facts they want, whether you're a conspiracy nut or believe Osama Bin Laden did it, when it comes down to it there really isn't enough "TRUE FACTS" to base an assumption one way or the other. It's all a matter of they said this or they said that.

There is always going to be lines drawn and sides taken, regardless of what the truth is and there is no shortage of people with a dissatisfaction for the current administration that no matter WHAT happens, they will always look for something evil to pin on the government or instantly cling to something that sheds a cloud of doubt on the powers that be.

This whole debate has nothing to do with the "Truth", it's all about wanting to point a finger and saying, "See... It's their fault, They are Evil, They are whats wrong with the world today!" Just like a spoiled teenager who despises not the parent themselves but what they represent.

If you say you know the truth because you saw it on a website, or on a for-hire news media channel or read it somewhere then maybe searching for a truth that cant be found isn't the answer. Maybe there might be a more productive way to voice your dissatisfaction with the government.

They started it right in the sixties but somewhere along the line we just gave up and decided to simply point fingers from our couch or computer chair...

amen brother!

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by Darkland

They can point at all the facts they want, whether you're a conspiracy nut or believe Osama Bin Laden did it, when it comes down to it there really isn't enough "TRUE FACTS" to base an assumption one way or the other. It's all a matter of they said this or they said that.

There is always going to be lines drawn and sides taken, regardless of what the truth is and there is no shortage of people with a dissatisfaction for the current administration that no matter WHAT happens, they will always look for something evil to pin on the government or instantly cling to something that sheds a cloud of doubt on the powers that be.

This whole debate has nothing to do with the "Truth", it's all about wanting to point a finger and saying, "See... It's their fault, They are Evil, They are whats wrong with the world today!" Just like a spoiled teenager who despises not the parent themselves but what they represent.

If you say you know the truth because you saw it on a website, or on a for-hire news media channel or read it somewhere then maybe searching for a truth that cant be found isn't the answer. Maybe there might be a more productive way to voice your dissatisfaction with the government.

They started it right in the sixties but somewhere along the line we just gave up and decided to simply point fingers from our couch or computer chair...

I got a feeling you didnt watch the video.

[xmas13]

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by xmas13

Is that your dad?

[xmas13]

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

Is that your dad?

[PGR]

I don't really have an opinion on this subject, but this guy certainly does: http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse....i?u=911_morons

[payd2purv]

What's been done is already done.

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by P.G.R.

I don't really have an opinion on this subject, but this guy certainly does: http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse....i?u=911_morons

The video does not even talk about a conspiracy theory.

[Darkland]

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

I got a feeling you didnt watch the video.

Yes... but I have a feeling my post didn't really sink in or you skimmed it...

I didn't say they were right OR wrong. My statement to sum it up for those who need it spelled out clearer is this:

In this day and age getting the truth or the straight story is next to impossible. There have ALWAYS been people who believe they are right no matter what. One persons credible source is not the same for another. If all things being the same and both parties of the equation represent truth, How can you get the true answer? You can't. Look at how long the debate on the JFK assasination has been going on...

I mean, a vast majority of people believe in God simply based on faith and what someone told them, whether it's from a preacher or read straight from the bible. Does that mean he exists? No one can give definitive proof if he does or doesn't but that will never stop people from believing what they want regardless of the reachability of fact based on truth.

The only truth that will ever come out of this whole debate is that people will always believe what they want to believe.

Do you know the truth or just believe it based on faith in what you have been shown?

Who decides where credible truth comes from? And how is it shaping our world?

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by Darkland

Yes... but I have a feeling my post didn't really sink in or you skimmed it...

I didn't say they were right OR wrong. My statement to sum it up for those who need it spelled out clearer is this:

In this day and age getting the truth or the straight story is next to impossible. There have ALWAYS been people who believe they are right no matter what. One persons credible source is not the same for another. If all things being the same and both parties of the equation represent truth, How can you get the true answer? You can't. Look at how long the debate on the JFK assasination has been going on...

I mean, a vast majority of people believe in God simply based on faith and what someone told them, whether it's from a preacher or read straight from the bible. Does that mean he exists? No one can give definitive proof if he does or doesn't but that will never stop people from believing what they want regardless of the reachability of fact based on truth.

The only truth that will ever come out of this whole debate is that people will always believe what they want to believe.

Do you know the truth or just believe it based on faith in what you have been shown?

Who decides where credible truth comes from? And how is it shaping our world?

You should just watch the video. It just talks abot things that we all know happened, there's actually nothing new in the video, no sources or anything like that. Just facts spit at your face.

[Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life]

Originally Posted by xmas13

i pledge my allegiance to the communist nigras for a better america partay...

[TheSenator]

I think I hear Eminem on the track too..

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by TheSenator

I think I hear Eminem on the track too..

Yeah at the end.

[J. Falcon]

I wouldn't be fightin' for Bush or White America's dream
I'd be fightin' for my people's survival and self-esteem
I wouldn't fight for racist churches from the south, my nigga
I'd be fightin' to keep the occupation out, my nigga
You ever clock someone who talk shit, or look at you wrong?
Imagine if they shot at you, and was rapin' your moms
And of course Saddam Hussein had chemical weapons
We sold him that shit, after Ronald Reagan's election

[theking]

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

Man the fucking truth hurts like a motherfucker I tell you, call this video what you will, but just about every point these rappers make is fucking valid.

Pigshit.

[Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life]

Originally Posted by theking

Pigshit.

theking's only logical response to anything that questions his blind faith in his country and it's actions. why don't you load your ass up and get over to iraq? How about that pigshit you stupid yank cunt?

[StickyGreen]

You guys should check out Aaron Russo's interviews on youtube...

[theking]

Originally Posted by ismokeblunts

theking's only logical response to anything that questions his blind faith in his country and it's actions. why don't you load your ass up and get over to iraq? How about that pigshit you stupid yank cunt?

Been there and done that...in '91. I spent 12 years in the military and was medically discharged (against my will) in '92 for injuries sustained during Desert Storm...and am currently a 100% disabled vet or I would be there...thank you very much.

[Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life]

Originally Posted by theking

Been there and done that...in '91. I spent 12 years in the military and was medically discharged (against my will) in '92 for injuries sustained during Desert Storm...and am currently a 100% disabled vet or I would be there...thank you very much.

Well that explains your complete lack of reason, and unquestioning order-following mentality then. Enjoy being a fucking cripple douchebag. I hope it was worth it. I hope you still have one good arm to wave your flag with. Can you still get your dick up? Say it is so! Amerikkka needs more good mindmelted soldiers like you to fall in line and make it's leaders some more money. So you better get out there and breed the next generation of shooting dummies, so your leaders can continue to bank your blood. It's a real shame you made it out alive...

FUCK AMERIKKA!


Oh, and you're welcome....

[theking]

Originally Posted by ismokeblunts

Well that explains your complete lack of reason, and unquestioning order-following mentality then. Enjoy being a fucking cripple douchebag. I hope it was worth it. I hope you still have one good arm to wave your flag with. Can you still get your dick up? Say it is so! Amerikkka needs more good mindmelted soldiers like you to fall in line and make it's leaders some more money. So you better get out there and breed the next generation of shooting dummies, so your leaders can continue to bank your blood. It's a real shame you made it out alive...

FUCK AMERIKKA!


Oh, and you're welcome....

You are a stinking piece of shit...please flush. BTW...you are permanently...fucking...dismissed.

[Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life]

Originally Posted by theking

You are a stinking piece of shit...please flush. BTW...you are permanently...fucking...dismissed.

pigshit!

[Jens Van Assterdam]

bullllllllllllshit all the way!!!!!!!!

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by theking

Pigshit.

Why don't you go ahead and try to discredit some of the statements in this video. Except for the chorus "Bush knocked down the towers" try to point to any of the statements said in that song and discredit them. Try doing that instead of posting "pigshit" every time you see something you disagree with.

[Michaelious]

Nice vids

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by Machete Rodriguez

bullllllllllllshit all the way!!!!!!!!

Did you even hear the song? Everyone seems to have this video confused with your dime a dozen conspiracy videos on youtube. Its not a conspiracy video.

[Darkland]

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

Did you even hear the song? Everyone seems to have this video confused with your dime a dozen conspiracy videos on youtube. Its not a conspiracy video.

You are right... There is alot of real truth to most of the things they are rapping about, as a matter of fact I like what they are saying. We DO need to step up and point out all the fucked up shit that goes on in our society. Make people see whats happening...

BUT...

I think it is irresponsible of them to make the chorus of "Bush Knocked Down The Towers", which is repeated over and over, like it is a fact based on their other observations in the song.

These guys are icons in a generation of kids who have forgotten to think for themselves. They are so blinded by the haze of a "ME" generation that they will literally believe anything they are told because they heard it from a celebrity.

I see it as just another abuse of power, not unlike the abuse of power they are rapping about. If they had left out the chorus this would be a completely different debate.

As celebrities in a celebrity driven generation I think they should be more responsible in how they deliver their message.

[D]

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

Haha, when did people start believing a bunch of barely literate rappers?

Mos Def does not fit into that category. Without commenting on his specific works, I can say that I feel he's a very intelligent man.

Powerful song, imho. Hopefully it inspires reasonable discussion, greater understanding, and a desire to change what's wrong with the system from within the system more than it inspires knee-jerk regression into ignorance, hate, and violence.

[Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life]

Originally Posted by Darkland

I think it is irresponsible of them to make the chorus of "Bush Knocked Down The Towers", which is repeated over and over, like it is a fact based on their other observations in the song.

I think you're taking it all wrong. I don't think they are in any way trying to state that Bush had anything to do with knocking down the towers. Why would they go out of their way to discredit all the legitimate statements they make with one crazy one? It's just a statement to grab the listeners attention. They're using it the same way a good headline pulls a reader into reading an article. By screaming out "Bush Knocked Down The Towers" over and over, they are bringing people who may not have cared to listen to their message into listening to it. Which I think is a good thing, because they made plenty of legitimate points throughout the song. Especially the point where they discuss what would you do if some group invaded and occupied your neighborhood?

Originally Posted by D

Mos Def does not fit into that category. Without commenting on his specific works, I can say that I feel he's a very intelligent man.

Like I said early, I'm not a big rap fan, but I can respect what Mos does, because as you have said, he comes across as a very intelligent man with the message and words he sends out. You've gotta give a man props for doing what he does. Especially when he gone on to be not only successful in music, but also movies. A lot of rappers have tried to make the transition, but Mos does it well.

[blackfeet]

don't be mad at me for sayin' this. i'm NOT a racist.

first it was the indians.
then the blacks.
then the mexicans.
and very shortly white middle class.

NWO

[TommyM]

I dont know what to believe in this matter, but have seen alot of incriminating stuff about the bush adminstration - but guess we "normal" people will never know the real truth

[J. Falcon]

Tell the truth nigga...

[Deputy Chief Command]

even though its a song I like you should not take it too seriously

its nothing but propaganda

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by banthis

woowww mos def is pushing it haha

That was immortal technique.

[Fap]

Originally Posted by jpwhits

I don't particularly consider Mos Def as illiterate as the rest of them.

have you ever listened to immortal technique?..