notoldschool

http://chroniccorner.net/2008/Februa...-Alcohol-2.htm

please explain to me why we pay massive amounts of money to fight a losing battle against a plant from the earth and not a horrific drug like alcohol. Im baffled.

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Another reason to twist one up

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I smoke weed and conduct business.

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aico

You obviously don't know how our Gov't works. 1 word: Lobbyists.

shahab6

Alcohol causes permanent brain damage if crank every day, but marijuana does not cause brain damage if drank everyday

stickyfingerz

Should be 100% legalized for 18 and over at worst 21 and over period. Dont need to be wasting resources chasing it down, and arresting people over it. Tis silly.

tony286

I think if pot was produced under uniform conditions it would be much much safer.

papill0n

one word - taxes

Dirty F

Oh heres comes magic plant from god bs again. Yes alcohol is more dangerous but please stop fucking acting as if weed is some kinda of miracle drug.

You realize (if youre not too damn stoned) that alcohol comes from earth as well right?

Fucking stoner idiots bs.

karlos

they can't decriminalise marijuana, what would all those fat DEA cops do with their time?

D

In a word: politics.

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killerkay

alcohol is man made, weed is god made. SMOKE WEED! fuck you anti marijuana faggots

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Actually... nature makes alcohol, too.

Granted, it generally tastes a lot better when its creation is directed by man... but marijuana is typically a lot better when it's nurtured by man, as well...

or... so they tell me.

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dav3

go after actual narcotics?

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AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

I've never smoked alcohol, so it's hard to compare the two - although I did swallow some bong water once, and it pretty much sucked...

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AssPirate

Alcohol is being commercialized without telling people that it's more lethal than Marijuana...

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Dirty F

Alcohol comes from a natural process you dumb junkie. Maybe you would know that if you werent stoned all fucking day.

Dirty F

Weed is a narcotic.

And not without a reason. Weed is a very fucking strong drug which can completely fuck you up which can be a danger to yourself and others

Dirty F

When people talk like this its like instant proof how fucking dumb they are.

Dirty F

Why do weed junkies always feel so special. As i mentioned in another thread last week being addicted to drugs is nothing to brag about you know. And the only junkies who do that are weed junkies for some reason.

LeRoy

I smoke . I handle my biz. A little forgetful but things get done some how

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Screw the lobbyist excuse, screw the tax excuse. Neither are even inside the picture frame. The excuse of politics can come into play more so when Nixon hit office but that is much latter in the history of drugs and alcohol.

History shows that alcohol was made illegal well before marijuana, cocaine, heroin, opium, morphine, and well just about everything else. This was also done via a constitutional amendment since that was the only legal way to ban something as the Government itself at that time did not interfere with states rights, where prohibited to by the constitution, and really did not want to.

For awhile the economy was going great shit was flowing into the docks and the migrant and black dock workers were being paid, out west crops were doing well along with constructions and we as a country were begging Mexico to send more workers. (this is a short story)

Boom - economy collapses.
Dock workers were often given or encouraged to use cocaine as it increased productivity and hours worked. Well the blacks were taking up jobs honest white folks could have yet never wanted before aside from the other migrants. Target enabled - cocaine. Eventually taxation and prevention of it being allowed in mail order remedies. Though for awhile whites could still get it via doctors. This one was race related with the economy as an excuse.

Out west they also needed these damn labor stealing Mexicans that we as a country couldn't import enough of out of our country ASAP. Low and behold it was shown that they rather enjoyed smoking the marijuana plant. Now nobody wanted to go after a damn weed that was growing everywhere so they (the Government fought hard saying state rights, states begged otherwise). Eventually when the FBI found out that Hearst was very anti drugs he went gung ho on fighting marijuana and deporting Mexicans.

It boiled down both time to race issues and the economy.

Eventually Nixon will use it as a political weapon after he learns that many of his protesters and college aged enemies used drugs. It was near impossible to stop freedom of speech but you can lock up a drug user.

As a historical side note since we did mention lobbyist. When the short meeting occurred about making it illegal only one industry objected and they maintained their rights. The fabric industry now had other fabrics so they did not care, paper industry was fine, the paint industry had other oils they could easily substitute for, but alas the bird seed companies said no other seeds gave birds feathers such a shine and they got their exemptions no questions asked.

Hell this really is to long of a topic.

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baddog

You obviously have no clue what a narcotic is if you think that.

Dirty F

Actually i do cockface.

1. any of a class of substances that blunt the senses, as opium, morphine, belladonna, and alcohol, that in large quantities produce euphoria, stupor, or coma, that when used constantly can cause habituation or addiction, and that are used in medicine to relieve pain, cause sedation, and induce sleep.
2. anything that exercises a soothing or numbing effect or influence: Television is a narcotic for many people.

baddog

The word "narcotic" comes from the Greek word "narkos", meaning sleep. Suggesting that TV is a narcotic only proves you are as stupid as pussyserver.

Dirty F

Wtf is TV?

Anyway you are saying Weed (or technically THC) is not a narcotic? Are you serious? Do you also grow a beard where your brain used to be or what?

softwareguy

I am thinking of switching to Pot from cigarettes. While the later do cause cancer there are no substancial proof that the former causes it too. Besides it gives more high. Only thing that is required is you have to take adequate nutrition if you smoke pot in a regular basis.

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Dirty F

Shitdog, where are you? What is TV? Serious question.

BlackCrayon

How is the process natural? Just because people have been doing it for ages? Alcohol doesn't create itself. Marijuana can be grown with no human interference at all.

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campimp

i do believe that according to the FDA, it is a narcotic... and incredibly in the same classification as cocaine and heroin! class 1

that is technically speaking, realistically it should not be considered anything close to a narcotic. it is more of an intoxicant

either way, weed is not really harmful except to maybe the lungs and throats unless you are using a vaoprizor

dav3

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Amen ...

Evil E

Alcohol is way worse than Marijiuana.

Worse you can get with Marijuana is become paranoid, schyzo or do nothing all day and get some kinds of cancer because you smoke.

Alcohol = just drinking and driving causes a lot of deaths. Also fights in bar are mostly fueled by it.

Dirty F

Are you trying to be sarcastic or just amazingly stupid?

Dirty F

How is that incredible? You have any idea how strong weed is and what it can do to you? Nothing incredible about it.

Dirty F

Are you stupid? Rotting fruits create alcohol.

Yes, the magic drug alcohol, alcohol straight from the earth made by god blah blah.

WarChild

Comparing the effects of weed to Heroin or Cocaine is just ludacrious. I'm sure you know this and you're basically just trying to stir up reactions.

Tylenol is a powerful pain killer, but we don't compare it to Morphine for a reason.

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Google is your friend - Are you really an idiot or do you just play one on GFY?



They did not put me in charge of drug classifications, so what I say really doesn't matter. The fact of the matter is that weed, acid, meth, and coke are not narcotics, by definition.

Dirty F

Well i do know this:

Give someone 2 lines of coke and most people will hardly notice it but let someone puff twice from a joint and most of them will be fucked up for 2 hours.

Im not talking about how dangerous or addictive it is here. Just how strong it is and how it makes you feel.

tyler (durden)

true story, I wrote my final paper in English 102 comparing Marijuana to Alcohol and not only did I get an A but the teacher laughed when he saw the title - "Why can't we all get a bong?"

Alcohol is the single most physically destructive drug there is (except for maybe Meth, more research is needed)

Nicotine is the single most addictive drug

Both are legal, so do you think the government actually gives a fuck about your well being?

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D

You're mistaken.

https://gfy.com/13805711-post15.html

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CarlosTheGaucho

Exactly, noone will ever try to flash you with the fact that he is a drunk, an addict, an addicted fuckhead - but every progressive, advanced and modern weed ubermensch will spend endless hours and days to advocate how this is so important for everyone in the world to smoke or tolerate the shit.

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/804656-marijuana-legal.html

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war on drugs = money

CarlosTheGaucho

I can't help but to agree once again - maybe I am just a bad carma boy but I have met so many people that turned into total retards smoking weed.

That's the only thing I can say, I don't care how healthy they are.

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Violetta

not sure, but alcohol gives me what I need...

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swedguy

Fuck Jack Daniels! Jack Herer is now being served.

WarChild

Are you kidding me? You think two puffs of a joint is stronger than 2 lines of coke?

If you sit around smoking joints and doing coke at the same time, you think you'll end up feeling stoned from the weed or high from the coke?

I mean I agree with you that it's amazingly stupid to think of any drug as a miracle substance. Marijuana does have some pain killing and other medical uses, but then so does Opium. We don't sit around and say that Heroine is a miracle drug though.

Sitting around using any drug recreationally is going to have a negative effect, most likely, on your life. It won't to everyone, and especially not to people that act responsibly. I mean, not every guy that likes to have a beer on the weekend is going to turn in to a raging wife beating alcoholic. Neither is everyone that smokes weed going to be a sit around do nothing pot head.

I still think you can't compare Marijuana to Cocaine or Heroin though, they're not in the same league. Especially if you exclude Alcohol from that grouping for any reason.

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