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WarChild 02-21-2008 12:01 PM

Franck, you keep insisting that pot, like any other drug, is bad for you. Several times you mention it causes brain damage. I surmise you have no evidence to back this claim up. You're more or less going by what you heard or what you think you know.

Could you please cite a source, any source for this? Now I don't mean more anecdotal evidence like you know some pot heads, or "everybody knows it causes brain damage.".

I'll start so you can see what I mean. Here's a Doctor, a well respected one, that ran a study and feels that THC does NOT cause permanent brain damage.

Quote:

The use of cannabis does not cause permanent brain damage, researchers from the University of California at San Diego (UCSD), who reviewed the available data on the issue, said on 27 June. "The findings were kind of a surprise. One might have expected to see more impairment of higher mental function," said Dr. Igor Grant, a UCSD professor of psychiatry and the study's lead author. Other drugs, including alcohol, can cause brain damage.

His team analyzed data from 15 previously published, controlled studies involving 704 long-term cannabis users and 484 nonusers into the impact of long-term, recreational cannabis use on the neurocognitive ability of adults. The results, published in the July issue of the Journal of the International Neuropsychological Society, show that marijuana has only a marginally harmful long- term effect on learning and memory. No effect at all was seen on other functions, including reaction time, attention, language, reasoning ability, and perceptual and motor skills.

Researchers said the problems observed in learning and forgetting suggest that long-term marijuana use results in selective memory defects, but said the impact was of a very small magnitude. Earlier reviews had come to similar results.

(Source: Reuters of 27 June 2003, dpa of 29 June 2003)

hungry hungry hippy 02-21-2008 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 13812523)
If you wouldnt be stoned and dumb all the time you would actually realize that nowhere, read that again your dumb junkie, you too Notoldschoolbuttotallyretarded, nowhere did i say i think i should remain illegal.

After 3 pages you retarded potheads still have no clue what im saying. Its truly pathetic. Try sobering up for a at least a hour and read this thread again, maybe you'll get a clue then but im pretty sure your brain is already damaged too much.

i haven't smoke in a week :winkwink: nor did i read this entire thread. i assumed that given you got your head far up your ass you would have wanted it to remain illegal. all "strong drugs" are not good for you? :1orglaugh

what are you trying to say? it's hard to read through your typing mistakes and your rambling, name calling nonsense.

you're a riot. i wish you lived near here so i could hire you as a jester. at least then you'll make some money :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

GigoloMason 02-21-2008 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by shahab6 (Post 13805434)
Alcohol causes permanent brain damage if crank every day, but marijuana does not cause brain damage if drank everyday

But it does lead to people typing up gems like this. Stoners. :1orglaugh

WarChild 02-21-2008 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 13812529)
Dumb fucks..

Fuck, weedjunkies truly are the most dumb and annoying people on this earth...fucking hell what an idiots.

So your actual point is that people with addictive personalities can become mentally addicted to the high from Marijuana? Well of course. This is hardly revolutionary information you're offering us. What you're really doing is strongly voicing your opinion in hopes others will disagree and argue with you. The fact that your opinion is not based in fact probably doesn't even cross your mind.

You seem to have a pattern of this type of behavior. From what we can see over the last several years, you don't seem to be able to stop yourself from engaging in and even starting these types of arguments. Looks to me like you're addicted to GFY.

What's that? You can't be addicted to a message board? Sure you can! Look at you. Does that make you a GFY junkie?

hungry hungry hippy 02-21-2008 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 13812580)
Franck, you keep insisting that pot, like any other drug, is bad for you. Several times you mention it causes brain damage. I surmise you have no evidence to back this claim up.

he said this? i really should read this thread in its entirety! i knew franck would make a fool of himself again :1orglaugh it's a sad existence when you have to resort to being a village idiot to earn a measly pay from sig whoring.

who wants to wager those sources come up empty or from the feds? :1orglaugh

notoldschool 02-21-2008 12:10 PM

Another reason not to smoke pot. you might end up like this loser.

This could be U

WarChild 02-21-2008 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by hungry hungry hippy (Post 13812613)
he said this? i really should read this thread in its entirety! i knew franck would make a fool of himself again :1orglaugh it's a sad existence when you have to resort to being a village idiot to earn a measly pay from sig whoring.

who wants to wager those sources come up empty or from the feds? :1orglaugh

Well maybe there's some information supporting the view that THC causes brain damage. I admit I haven't spent any meaningful time researching the subject either. The bulk of my knowledge really only lies in the information I have come across by happenstance. In many years though, most things i've read have always come to the same conclusion: There appears to be no meaningful or lasting side effects of smoking Marijuana.

hungry hungry hippy 02-21-2008 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 13812637)
In many years though, most things i've read have always come to the same conclusion: There appears to be no meaningful or lasting side effects of smoking Marijuana.

exactly. one would think that given the substance has been used medicinally, spiritually and recreationally for thousands of years evidence of damaging effects would surface. i'd venture to say the only addictive potential - psychological addiction - isn't that credible. as noted in this thread, it's the feeling of the high one gets addicted to. those who get addicted to the high most likely have an addictive personality, and would get addicted to a plethora of things. meaning it's the user, not the cannabis. having smoked for 5+ years frequently, i can't say i've ever felt any psychological addiction even when taking long breaks. i'm sure many others would say the same.

it's habit forming if anything, which is far far from addiction.

WarChild 02-21-2008 12:23 PM

Let me clarify before Franck makes some more wild assumptions.

People UNDER THE INFLUENCE of Marijuana, often times do act stupid, childish and yes annoying for those not under the influence.

There is a huge difference between this and "Marijuana being bad for you", however.

Net Money 02-21-2008 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 13805439)
Should be 100% legalized for 18 and over at worst 21 and over period. Dont need to be wasting resources chasing it down, and arresting people over it. Tis silly.

Agreed 100%...:pimp

CarlosTheGaucho 02-21-2008 12:52 PM

Tell me - what is so appealing on marijuana?

Do you ever actually EXPERIENCE anything while high? I don't mean watching a coffee machine I mean to experience something with other people.

I have seen far too many people watching cofee machines to be yet able to imagine any social aspect of smoking weed, and I would dare to say weed kills every party where it's mass consumed as I noticed.

Is that only to dissolve the fact you don't feel comfortable in the society that you balance that with the amount of weed you smoke? And narrowing the community you are meeting to other weed smokers?

I seriously hate contact with people on weed, there is NO way of social interaction, it's only a pathetic display of someone not willing to stand for himself so they rather turn into a mumbling, overreacting, antiactive zombies with childish behaviour.

dav3 02-21-2008 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 13812623)
Another reason not to smoke pot. you might end up like this loser.

This could be U

Hahaha... that movie looks great! I had no idea about it. Thanks dood!

WarChild 02-21-2008 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho (Post 13812835)
I seriously hate contact with people on weed, there is NO way of social interaction, it's only a pathetic display of someone not willing to stand for himself so they rather turn into a mumbling, overreacting, antiactive zombies with childish behaviour.

Now you're just being ridiculous and dare I say a little childish yourself. Do you honestly think all people that smoke weed, regardless of how much or how often behave exactly the same way? You must have a fairly limited social circle or else it's you that attract losers that would even consider "staring at a coffee machine.".

Your post is about as silly as saying "I seriously hate contact with people on alcohol, there is NO way of peacful interaction, it's only a pathetic display of someone beating their wife and running over children in their car.".

hungry hungry hippy 02-21-2008 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho (Post 13812835)
Do you ever actually EXPERIENCE anything while high? I don't mean watching a coffee machine I mean to experience something with other people.

yes, or i wouldn't smoke it. for me it greatly enhances music appreciation and the experience of music. as a result, listening to and producing music while high is damn fun and totally immersing. the same goes for movies, in fact any art. hiking also, it makes the walk through the forest that much better - you take the time to appreciate all that is around you :upsidedow

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Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho (Post 13812835)
I would dare to say weed kills every party where it's mass consumed as I noticed.

depends what type of parties you go to. i myself go to parties where the focus is music - dance parties, outdoor festivals, clubs, and so on. nothing better then smoking a spliff and dancing for hours.

like WarChild said, it seems you've only met the stereotypical stoner. not everyone crawls inside their head while high.

it's funny franck conveniently disappeared. what's the matter bud, can't find those sources? not making enough pesos from sig views in this thread? how sad :winkwink:

Twisted Dave 02-21-2008 02:42 PM

Well ... people who smoke weed stink of shit ... good enough reason to class it an A drug for me ;) Bring that rating on! :)

I fucking HATE the smell... it's disgusting.

notoldschool 02-21-2008 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho (Post 13812835)
Tell me - what is so appealing on marijuana?

Do you ever actually EXPERIENCE anything while high? I don't mean watching a coffee machine I mean to experience something with other people.

I have seen far too many people watching cofee machines to be yet able to imagine any social aspect of smoking weed, and I would dare to say weed kills every party where it's mass consumed as I noticed.

Is that only to dissolve the fact you don't feel comfortable in the society that you balance that with the amount of weed you smoke? And narrowing the community you are meeting to other weed smokers?

I seriously hate contact with people on weed, there is NO way of social interaction, it's only a pathetic display of someone not willing to stand for himself so they rather turn into a mumbling, overreacting, antiactive zombies with childish behaviour.


You are just plain ignorant. Your such a tool you just dont realize how many people are high and you have talked with them and never knew it. Only an idiot thinks that all pot smokers go around saying DUUUuuuude! LOL. The behaviors you speak of describe someone drunk or on pills more than someone high on weed. No way of social interaction? My god are you oblivious to the world around you. I know MANY people who are not zombies and WAY more successful than you will ever be, and they smoke everyday. BTW I could take any IQ test high out of my skull and still get a higher score than your dumb ass. You sir have become the zombie.

notoldschool 02-21-2008 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dav3 (Post 13812945)
Hahaha... that movie looks great! I had no idea about it. Thanks dood!

Shit, glad I added it to the thread. Its going to be awesome!

xmas13 02-21-2008 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 13813402)
You just dont realize how many people are high and you have talked with them and never knew it.

http://www.n-sider.com/media/hearts18stoned.jpg

notoldschool 02-21-2008 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by xmas13 (Post 13813523)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :helpme

hungry hungry hippy 02-21-2008 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by PunchBunny Dave (Post 13813329)
Well ... people who smoke weed stink of shit ... good enough reason to class it an A drug for me ;) Bring that rating on! :)

I fucking HATE the smell... it's disgusting.

tobacco and alcohol smell any better?

notoldschool 02-21-2008 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PunchBunny Dave (Post 13813329)
Well ... people who smoke weed stink of shit ... good enough reason to class it an A drug for me ;) Bring that rating on! :)

I fucking HATE the smell... it's disgusting.

"smells like god's vagina"

James Franco, pineapple express 2008

Fap 02-21-2008 05:33 PM

damn hippies..

yuu.design 02-21-2008 05:43 PM

lol :) ssshhh

Dirty F 02-21-2008 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hungry hungry hippy (Post 13813264)

it's funny franck conveniently disappeared. what's the matter bud, can't find those sources? not making enough pesos from sig views in this thread? how sad :winkwink:

I dissapeared after you came in this thread and started talking shit after not even reading it and then you show what a fucking moron you are and instead of saying sorry, i just made something up and was wrong you keep on acting like an idiot. There was somewhat of a discussion going on before you started making up shit.
And junkie, all my sig money goes to charity. Whoops, looks like you are owned again.

Dumb faggot.

D 02-21-2008 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 13809357)
Nice. Double banger.

Quick on the draw.

:winkwink:

I'm of the mind that someone has a right to put whatever they want to put into their own bodies - and that right is unquestionable if there are possible health benefits that can be derived from doing so.

Both alcohol and marijuana have been shown to have health benefits. Booze, in moderation, has all sorts of cardiovascular benefits... and marijuana has certain medical benefits. :2 cents:

Little known fact: The American Medical Association was among the primary protesters to the U.S. government outlawing marijuana in the 1930's.

Alky 02-22-2008 12:13 AM

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These intensive horticultural techniques have led to fewer seeds being present in cannabis and a general increase in potency over the past 20 years. The average levels of THC in marijuana sold in United States rose from 3.5% in 1988 to 7% in 2003 and 8.5% in 2006
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_(drug)

I know wikipedia blah blah.

Regardless... now a days it's man made with all these different strains and what not.

And you are still depriving your brain of oxygen... it must be great for you when you sit there and hold your breath with smoke in your lungs.

WWC 02-22-2008 01:48 AM

Thats not the point...its all about government , politics, money, etc.... imho bud is safer than bud light ;-)

xmas13 02-22-2008 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by WWC-Raffi (Post 13815485)
Thats not the point...its all about government , politics, money, etc.... imho bud is safer than bud light ;-)

Yeah blame politicians and money for your personal choices. Very responsible attitude.

I don't want to listen to this shit anymore. :1orglaugh

Bye.

xmas13 02-22-2008 02:27 AM

BLAME GEORGE W. BUSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHH

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

meatboss 02-22-2008 05:33 AM

Dirty F you need to go watch Leaving Las Vegas
and shut the flying fuck up while at it.

Dirty F 02-22-2008 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by meatboss (Post 13815892)
Dirty F you need to go watch Leaving Las Vegas
and shut the flying fuck up while at it.

Uh yeah? Seen it a couple of times...what are you trying to say exactly...please explain.

Dirty F 02-22-2008 05:43 AM

Page 4 and you dumb junkies still have no clue what im trying to say do you? Its because you dont read anything...youre just here to cry and cry about weed and how amazing it is. Just look at that idiot hungry hippy, jumps into this thread and starts defending his drugs while not even reading a single post. Thats how you idiots work. Just read what i said and how about you shut the flying fuck up while at it. Dumb fucks.

LadyMischief 02-22-2008 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 13815916)
Page 4 and you dumb junkies still have no clue what im trying to say do you? Its because you dont read anything...youre just here to cry and cry about weed and how amazing it is. Just look at that idiot hungry hippy, jumps into this thread and starts defending his drugs while not even reading a single post. Thats how you idiots work. Just read what i said and how about you shut the flying fuck up while at it. Dumb fucks.

So would you say that the people who use marijuana for legitimate medical purposes like glaucoma and cancer treatments are useless junkies too, right? Never heard of alcohol being used to HELP people...... You really have a very sad narrow view of the world.

MJ has been used by people since people have been around..they found Marijuana seeds in the fires of cavemen. I don't really think you can talk about it on the same level as most other drugs.. it's not even physically addictive... Psychologically yes, physically, no.

Mr. Romance 02-22-2008 06:10 AM

no

Mr. Romance

Dirty F 02-22-2008 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by LadyMischief (Post 13815948)
So would you say that the people who use marijuana for legitimate medical purposes like glaucoma and cancer treatments are useless junkies too, right? Never heard of alcohol being used to HELP people...... You really have a very sad narrow view of the world.

MJ has been used by people since people have been around..they found Marijuana seeds in the fires of cavemen. I don't really think you can talk about it on the same level as most other drugs.. it's not even physically addictive... Psychologically yes, physically, no.

Shut the fuck up please dumb whore. God you people stupid. Where exactly did i say anything bad about weed helping people with cancer etc. You junkies keep making shit up. And oh yeah because they found seeds in the fires of cavemen it means its a wonder drug right? Or what exactly are you trying to say with that? I really dont have a fucking idea what you are trying to say...

Dirty F 02-22-2008 06:14 AM

You know what junkies, this is page 4 and nobody so far said that weed is worse for you than alcohol...nobody...yet you junkies keep on crying about it.

Im told to watch Leaving Las Vegas...wtf???? Why? So i can say yeah that guy was addicted to alcohol? Because err why exactly?

Dirty F 02-22-2008 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LadyMischief (Post 13815948)
So would you say that the people who use marijuana for legitimate medical purposes like glaucoma and cancer treatments are useless junkies too, right? Never heard of alcohol being used to HELP people...... You really have a very sad narrow view of the world.

MJ has been used by people since people have been around..they found Marijuana seeds in the fires of cavemen. I don't really think you can talk about it on the same level as most other drugs.. it's not even physically addictive... Psychologically yes, physically, no.

God youre a dumb cunt. Really.

Dirty F 02-22-2008 06:18 AM

Hi, im ladydumbjunkie and im telling you weed is a miracle from god and good for you because the seeds were found in the fires of cavemen...

Dirty F 02-22-2008 06:19 AM

Hey ladydumbcunt, they found tons of shit in remains from that time, poisonous and deadly stuff...does that mean we all should do it by your logic or what?

CarlosTheGaucho 02-22-2008 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 13813402)
You are just plain ignorant. Your such a tool you just dont realize how many people are high and you have talked with them and never knew it. Only an idiot thinks that all pot smokers go around saying DUUUuuuude! LOL. The behaviors you speak of describe someone drunk or on pills more than someone high on weed. No way of social interaction? My god are you oblivious to the world around you. I know MANY people who are not zombies and WAY more successful than you will ever be, and they smoke everyday. BTW I could take any IQ test high out of my skull and still get a higher score than your dumb ass. You sir have become the zombie.

Many thanks for nothing, could you put any sense in your words next time?


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