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Dirty F 02-20-2008 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 13808898)
Well.. Maybe because I smoked, a lot, quit, and I'm not addicted? I'm a drinker too, I like my beer. I was well out of the Marines the first time I ever touched a drug.

And it's easy to prove really.. We can start with the 100000's of middle aged people that grew up in the 60's and 70's that had to quit during the 80's when drug testing kicked in. Or the millions and millions of people that do it once a year, a few times a month, or just once a week. Or you could just read what the entire medical profession that has studied it says.

Listen we can discuss all we want...

Ive grown up between a lot of fucking people doing weed. I've seen plenty of addicts. You dont have to believe me but you should because i have no reason to lie.

Dirty F 02-20-2008 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 13808928)
As you can clearly see the Pot Gods are with me.. My edit time on that last post was special.. Enough that I'm off for some fun.

Last edited by TheDoc : Today at 04:20 PM.

Ok, thats kinda funny.

Dirty F 02-20-2008 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by xmas13 (Post 13808896)
Smoking weed is like a cult for a lot of people, it can't be argued, those who reject it are isolated, and there is a lot of pressure on enlisting new members. They worship Marijuana like others pray for Jesus Christ.

Exactly! And why? I truly dont care if they smoke weed but why the worshipping thing? You dont see that with any other drug. At least not on a large scale like this.

TheDoc 02-20-2008 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 13808947)
Listen we can discuss all we want...

Ive grown up between a lot of fucking people doing weed. I've seen plenty of addicts. You dont have to believe me but you should because i have no reason to lie.


Just because a person "chooses" to be addicted doesn't mean they are. The persons life style and the repetitive nature of the habit is what you are seeing. Also, it's very hard to find "just a pot smoker", most also drink, smoke cigs, and do other drugs making it very hard for you to see what the real addiction is.

I'm not saying pot isn't bad, any drug at any level is bad, and once anything is abused it's just going to harm you. But addictive, is something Pot isn't, it chemically does not have a single property that can do that.

xmas13 02-20-2008 04:43 PM

Drinking has nothing to do with smoking.

Everyone drinks liquids, water, alcohol, juices etc.

Drugs are drugs, drugs are not natural habits.

Don't drink anything for a week and you will end up at emergency hospital.

D 02-20-2008 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by xmas13 (Post 13808828)
The plant is natural, smoking it is not, dumbass.

Curious: do you consider cooking unnatural?

Dirty F 02-20-2008 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 13808969)
Just because a person "chooses" to be addicted doesn't mean they are. The persons life style and the repetitive nature of the habit is what you are seeing. Also, it's very hard to find "just a pot smoker", most also drink, smoke cigs, and do other drugs making it very hard for you to see what the real addiction is.

I'm not saying pot isn't bad, any drug at any level is bad, and once anything is abused it's just going to harm you. But addictive, is something Pot isn't, it chemically does not have a single property that can do that.

Yes but a mental addiction is still an addiction. People, especially potheads seem to ignore that.

xmas13 02-20-2008 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by D (Post 13809000)
Curious: do you consider cooking unnatural?

Why always bring this nonsense? Don't you have any arguments at all?

xmas13 02-20-2008 04:49 PM

A non-smoker speaking to a smoker is like a non-believer speaking to a believer.

xmas13 02-20-2008 04:53 PM

http://www.e-stoned.com/files/images/135.jpg

notoldschool 02-20-2008 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by D (Post 13809000)
Curious: do you consider cooking unnatural?

People like him will never get it. Im suprised you do actually.

IndustryTruth 02-20-2008 05:07 PM

God created grass- Man created booze- who do you trust?

Evil E 02-20-2008 05:07 PM

Thanks for proving you are a trolling moran Dirty F. At least you get mag sig views.

D 02-20-2008 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by xmas13 (Post 13809013)
Why always bring this nonsense? Don't you have any arguments at all?

I wasn't aware that it was nonsense... and I'd think that you'd be able to infer my point from the question posed... but let me lay it out for you:

You said smoking is not natural. Yet the plant is natural; so is fire; so is breathing.

But, according to you, smoking - applying fire to the plant, and breathing in the result - is not natural.

By the same logic, I'd think you'd consider cooking unnatural.

After all, many foods are natural; so is fire; so is eating.

But I don't know what your philosophy is on the matter... for all I know, you could be a die-hard Hindu Jainist, or something of that order... so I'm asking you:

do you consider cooking unnatural?

Because it seems silly to consider one natural and the other not, imho.

trustedfriend 02-20-2008 05:20 PM

One of my close friends was using drugs and drinking much, few years ago. I'd say alcohol is still better in the case he lost too much weight because of drugs.

stev0 02-20-2008 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 13805006)
http://chroniccorner.net/2008/Februa...-Alcohol-2.htm

please explain to me why we pay massive amounts of money to fight a losing battle against a plant from the earth and not a horrific drug like alcohol. Im baffled.

"horrific" lol.. pot and alcohol are both fun and should both be legal IMO. And enjoyed responsibly of course.

Meloman 02-20-2008 05:41 PM

Frank, have you ever smoked a joint before? Even once?

Dirty F 02-20-2008 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Meloman (Post 13809275)
Frank, have you ever smoked a joint before? Even once?

More than you could imagine.

notoldschool 02-20-2008 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by stev0 (Post 13809161)
"horrific" lol.. pot and alcohol are both fun and should both be legal IMO. And enjoyed responsibly of course.

Isnt that the way they speak of marijuana? Like it contains poison or something. Drinking a soda a day is worse for you than smoking a joint a day. Its just funny how people who get sloppy drunk act like people that smoke pot are junkies. LMAO!

dav3 02-20-2008 05:49 PM

Let's outlaw poison ivy!

D 02-20-2008 05:50 PM

100 arguments as to which of god's gifts is more dangerous.

notoldschool 02-20-2008 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by D (Post 13809316)
100 arguments as to which of god's gifts is more dangerous.

Nice. Double banger.

Darkland 02-20-2008 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 13809007)
Yes but a mental addiction is still an addiction. People, especially potheads seem to ignore that.

There is nothing to ignore. A psychological addiction is no where near physical addiction. Psychological addiction does not require a source for the addiction rather the other way around while physical addiction is CAUSED by the source which in turn affects the body.

Your argument is lame because everything we DO is an addiction and it is different for everyone. Any repeative behaviour can be classified as an addiction whether it be working, eating, speeding, sleeping, etc. The only difference is that these behaviour based addictions have no physical hold on a persons body, only the mind.

Compare this with the drugs and alcohol that may start out as behaviour based addictions that can quickly escalate into an actual NEED based addiction because your BODY not your MIND becomes severly dependant on. If these sources are removed your body revolts violently and the onset of withdrawal begins and in some cases can be fatal.

In short the only way to be addicted to marijuana is the already present psychological deficiency in a person with an addictive personality disorder which IS NOT physically harmful or destructive. It is the addictive personality disorder itself that is harmful NOT the marijuana. :2 cents:

Meloman 02-20-2008 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkland (Post 13809432)
There is nothing to ignore. A psychological addiction is no where near physical addiction. Psychological addiction does not require a source for the addiction rather the other way around while physical addiction is CAUSED by the source which in turn affects the body.

Your argument is lame because everything we DO is an addiction and it is different for everyone. Any repeative behaviour can be classified as an addiction whether it be working, eating, speeding, sleeping, etc. The only difference is that these behaviour based addictions have no physical hold on a persons body, only the mind.

Compare this with the drugs and alcohol that may start out as behaviour based addictions that can quickly escalate into an actual NEED based addiction because your BODY not your MIND becomes severly dependant on. If these sources are removed your body revolts violently and the onset of withdrawal begins and in some cases can be fatal.

In short the only way to be addicted to marijuana is the already present psychological deficiency in a person with an addictive personality disorder which IS NOT physically harmful or destructive. It is the addictive personality disorder itself that is harmful NOT the marijuana. :2 cents:


Bingo!

Ice Cream is an addiction to obese people. Anything can become an addiction but it's the responsibility of the individual to stay in control. If you have a weak mind and let yourself get "addicted" to something easily, then that's your problem.

Frank..so if you've spoke "more pot than i can imagine" then this is obviously a troll thread, so I'll let you have your fun. Cause shit I was gonna say...how does a pornographer live in Amsterdam and not take advantage of the pot & hookers...even once.... lol.

Pot is no big deal, it's not physically addicting and if done in moderation isn't harmfull. It comes down to personal responsibilty on how you handle pot.

CarlosTheGaucho 02-21-2008 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 13808480)
Give me a break. Most people that use marijuana DONT hassle anyone let alone even tell anyone because of the idiotic american stigmatism. Yet Every day I hear idiots saying how they are going out to get hammered off alchohol. Alot of them drive drunk as well. Ever listen to an Alcoholic mumble his way through a sentence? Believe me, people who get drunk are more disgusting, more dangerous, and more incoherant than any one person who smokes pot. Keep dreaming.

What I hear from you, if I get right to the point actually is:

We love to smoke pot and we love to behave like dumb zombies exploring the secrets of the universe, we are annoying to anyone not high.

Yet we are healthy and we are not dangerous.

...

I could agree with that.

---

And yet another thing - what is all the time with this drunk driving bullshit.

Is that not a a matter of self discipline? Is that not told to people not to drink while you are high with any kind of drug or even haven't had enough of sleep or beeing super angry and psychically liable? Is that not a matter of self disciplne?

What are you preching for? What are you trying to achieve? Tell me clearly, and very briefly, what is that you are trying to tell us?

CarlosTheGaucho 02-21-2008 07:30 AM

Here is my point:

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Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho (Post 13744039)
Well as I mentioned, I am not talking about anything extremely rational or quantifiable,

I don't say any drug beeing less or more harmful, not talking about weed to be illegal or legal.

To bust someone because smoking pot is a total non sense and only comparable with a sexual delicts registry record if you bang a 17 year old in a state where it's not allowed, I agree with Leslie.

I am only talking about the fact that I am inevitably watching for a while -

Marijuana IS IN VOGUE, and its pathologic effects are ALWAYS declined by ANY weed consumer I know.

I don't need anyone to showcase me his total independence on his own brain.

I am not really feeling comfortable with people I knew a couple of years ago and could actually comfortably talk to beeing seriously brain damaged now...

Now get the trolling going on and let me get back to work..

Dirty F 02-21-2008 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 13809289)
Isnt that the way they speak of marijuana? Like it contains poison or something. Drinking a soda a day is worse for you than smoking a joint a day. Its just funny how people who get sloppy drunk act like people that smoke pot are junkies. LMAO!

And what you are doing is any better? Acting like a stoned idiot all day telling the world how amazing weed is but people who drink alcohol are evil?

Youre a dumb fucking kid. Then again most stoners are. And annoying...then again most stoners are. Just smoke your joint and shut up about it. Stop acting as if what you are smoking is any better than what someone else takes. Its all drugs. And weed happens to be a very fucking strong drug which you should warn people about instead of this magic plant bullshit. Fucking moron. You smoked too much of that shit. Your brain is filled with smoke.

notoldschool 02-21-2008 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 13811996)
And what you are doing is any better? Acting like a stoned idiot all day telling the world how amazing weed is but people who drink alcohol are evil?

Youre a dumb fucking kid. Then again most stoners are. And annoying...then again most stoners are. Just smoke your joint and shut up about it. Stop acting as if what you are smoking is any better than what someone else takes. Its all drugs. And weed happens to be a very fucking strong drug which you should warn people about instead of this magic plant bullshit. Fucking moron. You smoked too much of that shit. Your brain is filled with smoke.

LOL...far from a kid. I served two tours in the US Army, while earning 6 bars on the my chest, phi theta kapa in college, and I now run a very succesfful online biz. Now that we got that out of the way.

FACT: Pot is less dangerous than almost EVERY legal drug that we consume freely in this country under the guidance of what people think are an intelligent goverment rule.

How about busting into one of the bars on every corner and grabbing all the loser alchoholics who smell like shit and neglect all their responsibilities, then come home to put a good whoopin on their poor children.

I would love to see the DEA bust into the local walgreens of CVS to take all their mind altering extremely dangerous and toxic drugs they are killing our citizens with. Fucking hypocrites in this country make me :throwup

Dirty F 02-21-2008 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 13812136)
LOL...far from a kid. I served two tours in the US Army, while earning 6 bars on the my chest, phi theta kapa in college, and I now run a very succesfful online biz. Now that we got that out of the way.

FACT: Pot is less dangerous than almost EVERY legal drug that we consume freely in this country under the guidance of what people think are an intelligent goverment rule.

How about busting into one of the bars on every corner and grabbing all the loser alchoholics who smell like shit and neglect all their responsibilities, then come home to put a good whoopin on their poor children.

I would love to see the DEA bust into the local walmart to take all their mind altering extremely dangerous and toxic drugs they are killing our citizens with. Fucking hypocrites in the country make me :throwup

Listen, i really want to fucking leave this thread. So can you PLEASE just say: Yes weed is a drugs. And maybe less dangerous than other drugs but still its a goddamn fucking strong drugs and with any goddamn fucking strong drugs its not good for you.

Please man, say something along those lines. Then we can get let this go.

notoldschool 02-21-2008 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 13812147)
Listen, i really want to fucking leave this thread. So can you PLEASE just say: Yes weed is a drugs. And maybe less dangerous than other drugs but still its a goddamn fucking strong drugs and with any goddamn fucking strong drugs its not good for you.

Please man, say something along those lines. Then we can get let this go.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/193/5...0992d6.jpg?v=0

notoldschool 02-21-2008 10:33 AM

No seriously though, Its gods creation.

http://steelturman.typepad.com/thest...s/gods_pot.jpg

Dirty F 02-21-2008 10:41 AM

Oh, then all i have left to say is eventhough you served two tours you are a totally pathetic dumb fucking kid. I guess you werent born like this but most likely the weed made you this way...as it does with a lot of people. Loser.

notoldschool 02-21-2008 10:46 AM

LOL. Ha ha...if what you say is right then Marijuana must be a real miracle drug that everyone should use because pot has given me superior intelligence over most of the population, I am a highly motivated hard worker, I did great in college, and there countless webmasters out there that are trying with no chance of achieving what I have to this point. So I guess Pot is the reason for my success. Maybe we should make a law that forces the less intelligent in our population to smoke pot so they can achieve all their dreams. Pot is a miracle from GOD. Period.

LadyMischief 02-21-2008 10:47 AM

Haven't heard of too many violent pot smokers lol!! Drunks can get mean and aggressive, usually you spark up a j and people get mellow and hungry lol!!

Dirty F 02-21-2008 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 13812234)
LOL. Ha ha...if what you say is right then Marijuana must be a real miracle drug that everyone should use because pot has given me superior intelligence over most of the population, I am a highly motivated hard worker, I did great in college, and there countless webmasters out there that are trying with no chance of achieving what I have to this point. So I guess Pot is the reason for my success. Maybe we should make a law that forces the less intelligent in our population to smoke pot so they can achieve all their dreams. Pot is a miracle from GOD. Period.

Omg :1orglaugh

Looks like another lunatic just got out of the closet. Holy shit dude...

I'm getting the Minusonebit feeling here...he always stayed under the radar and then one day he started saying stuff like you just did...and we all know how that ended :1orglaugh

Fucking lunatic psycho :1orglaugh
Its amazing how on gfy its always the dumbest fucking morons who think they are the most special...and yeah you sure are special but not in the way you think you are.

Retard :1orglaugh

notoldschool 02-21-2008 10:54 AM

Im glad you saw the humor and irony of my post Frank. But you do get an extra point for the minusonebit mention. But I bet people with Cancer, AIDS, or any wasting disease do think that marijuana is a miracle or gift from god. I bet.

hungry hungry hippy 02-21-2008 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 13805442)
Oh heres comes magic plant from god bs again. Yes alcohol is more dangerous but please stop fucking acting as if weed is some kinda of miracle drug.

You realize (if youre not too damn stoned) that alcohol comes from earth as well right?

Fucking stoner idiots bs.


oh hey it's the village idiot again :)

humor us all and give one reason why marijuana should remain illegal while there are more damaging substances, named in this thread, that are legal.

notoldschool 02-21-2008 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by hungry hungry hippy (Post 13812296)
oh hey it's the village idiot again :)

humor us all and give one reason why marijuana should remain illegal while there are more damaging substances, named in this thread, that are legal.

He has none, like most of the closed minded idiots that populate our country.

Dirty F 02-21-2008 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by hungry hungry hippy (Post 13812296)
oh hey it's the village idiot again :)

humor us all and give one reason why marijuana should remain illegal while there are more damaging substances, named in this thread, that are legal.

If you wouldnt be stoned and dumb all the time you would actually realize that nowhere, read that again your dumb junkie, you too Notoldschoolbuttotallyretarded, nowhere did i say i think i should remain illegal.

After 3 pages you retarded potheads still have no clue what im saying. Its truly pathetic. Try sobering up for a at least a hour and read this thread again, maybe you'll get a clue then but im pretty sure your brain is already damaged too much.

Dirty F 02-21-2008 11:47 AM

Dumb fucks..

Fuck, weedjunkies truly are the most dumb and annoying people on this earth...fucking hell what an idiots.


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