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Old 02-20-2008, 05:50 PM   #101
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100 arguments as to which of god's gifts is more dangerous.
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Old 02-20-2008, 05:58 PM   #102
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100 arguments as to which of god's gifts is more dangerous.
Nice. Double banger.
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Old 02-20-2008, 06:19 PM   #103
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Yes but a mental addiction is still an addiction. People, especially potheads seem to ignore that.
There is nothing to ignore. A psychological addiction is no where near physical addiction. Psychological addiction does not require a source for the addiction rather the other way around while physical addiction is CAUSED by the source which in turn affects the body.

Your argument is lame because everything we DO is an addiction and it is different for everyone. Any repeative behaviour can be classified as an addiction whether it be working, eating, speeding, sleeping, etc. The only difference is that these behaviour based addictions have no physical hold on a persons body, only the mind.

Compare this with the drugs and alcohol that may start out as behaviour based addictions that can quickly escalate into an actual NEED based addiction because your BODY not your MIND becomes severly dependant on. If these sources are removed your body revolts violently and the onset of withdrawal begins and in some cases can be fatal.

In short the only way to be addicted to marijuana is the already present psychological deficiency in a person with an addictive personality disorder which IS NOT physically harmful or destructive. It is the addictive personality disorder itself that is harmful NOT the marijuana.
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Old 02-20-2008, 07:36 PM   #104
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There is nothing to ignore. A psychological addiction is no where near physical addiction. Psychological addiction does not require a source for the addiction rather the other way around while physical addiction is CAUSED by the source which in turn affects the body.

Your argument is lame because everything we DO is an addiction and it is different for everyone. Any repeative behaviour can be classified as an addiction whether it be working, eating, speeding, sleeping, etc. The only difference is that these behaviour based addictions have no physical hold on a persons body, only the mind.

Compare this with the drugs and alcohol that may start out as behaviour based addictions that can quickly escalate into an actual NEED based addiction because your BODY not your MIND becomes severly dependant on. If these sources are removed your body revolts violently and the onset of withdrawal begins and in some cases can be fatal.

In short the only way to be addicted to marijuana is the already present psychological deficiency in a person with an addictive personality disorder which IS NOT physically harmful or destructive. It is the addictive personality disorder itself that is harmful NOT the marijuana.

Bingo!

Ice Cream is an addiction to obese people. Anything can become an addiction but it's the responsibility of the individual to stay in control. If you have a weak mind and let yourself get "addicted" to something easily, then that's your problem.

Frank..so if you've spoke "more pot than i can imagine" then this is obviously a troll thread, so I'll let you have your fun. Cause shit I was gonna say...how does a pornographer live in Amsterdam and not take advantage of the pot & hookers...even once.... lol.

Pot is no big deal, it's not physically addicting and if done in moderation isn't harmfull. It comes down to personal responsibilty on how you handle pot.

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Old 02-21-2008, 07:22 AM   #105
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Give me a break. Most people that use marijuana DONT hassle anyone let alone even tell anyone because of the idiotic american stigmatism. Yet Every day I hear idiots saying how they are going out to get hammered off alchohol. Alot of them drive drunk as well. Ever listen to an Alcoholic mumble his way through a sentence? Believe me, people who get drunk are more disgusting, more dangerous, and more incoherant than any one person who smokes pot. Keep dreaming.
What I hear from you, if I get right to the point actually is:

We love to smoke pot and we love to behave like dumb zombies exploring the secrets of the universe, we are annoying to anyone not high.

Yet we are healthy and we are not dangerous.

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I could agree with that.

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And yet another thing - what is all the time with this drunk driving bullshit.

Is that not a a matter of self discipline? Is that not told to people not to drink while you are high with any kind of drug or even haven't had enough of sleep or beeing super angry and psychically liable? Is that not a matter of self disciplne?

What are you preching for? What are you trying to achieve? Tell me clearly, and very briefly, what is that you are trying to tell us?
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Old 02-21-2008, 07:30 AM   #106
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Well as I mentioned, I am not talking about anything extremely rational or quantifiable,

I don't say any drug beeing less or more harmful, not talking about weed to be illegal or legal.

To bust someone because smoking pot is a total non sense and only comparable with a sexual delicts registry record if you bang a 17 year old in a state where it's not allowed, I agree with Leslie.

I am only talking about the fact that I am inevitably watching for a while -

Marijuana IS IN VOGUE, and its pathologic effects are ALWAYS declined by ANY weed consumer I know.

I don't need anyone to showcase me his total independence on his own brain.

I am not really feeling comfortable with people I knew a couple of years ago and could actually comfortably talk to beeing seriously brain damaged now...
Now get the trolling going on and let me get back to work..
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Isnt that the way they speak of marijuana? Like it contains poison or something. Drinking a soda a day is worse for you than smoking a joint a day. Its just funny how people who get sloppy drunk act like people that smoke pot are junkies. LMAO!
And what you are doing is any better? Acting like a stoned idiot all day telling the world how amazing weed is but people who drink alcohol are evil?

Youre a dumb fucking kid. Then again most stoners are. And annoying...then again most stoners are. Just smoke your joint and shut up about it. Stop acting as if what you are smoking is any better than what someone else takes. Its all drugs. And weed happens to be a very fucking strong drug which you should warn people about instead of this magic plant bullshit. Fucking moron. You smoked too much of that shit. Your brain is filled with smoke.
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And what you are doing is any better? Acting like a stoned idiot all day telling the world how amazing weed is but people who drink alcohol are evil?

Youre a dumb fucking kid. Then again most stoners are. And annoying...then again most stoners are. Just smoke your joint and shut up about it. Stop acting as if what you are smoking is any better than what someone else takes. Its all drugs. And weed happens to be a very fucking strong drug which you should warn people about instead of this magic plant bullshit. Fucking moron. You smoked too much of that shit. Your brain is filled with smoke.
LOL...far from a kid. I served two tours in the US Army, while earning 6 bars on the my chest, phi theta kapa in college, and I now run a very succesfful online biz. Now that we got that out of the way.

FACT: Pot is less dangerous than almost EVERY legal drug that we consume freely in this country under the guidance of what people think are an intelligent goverment rule.

How about busting into one of the bars on every corner and grabbing all the loser alchoholics who smell like shit and neglect all their responsibilities, then come home to put a good whoopin on their poor children.

I would love to see the DEA bust into the local walgreens of CVS to take all their mind altering extremely dangerous and toxic drugs they are killing our citizens with. Fucking hypocrites in this country make me
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LOL...far from a kid. I served two tours in the US Army, while earning 6 bars on the my chest, phi theta kapa in college, and I now run a very succesfful online biz. Now that we got that out of the way.

FACT: Pot is less dangerous than almost EVERY legal drug that we consume freely in this country under the guidance of what people think are an intelligent goverment rule.

How about busting into one of the bars on every corner and grabbing all the loser alchoholics who smell like shit and neglect all their responsibilities, then come home to put a good whoopin on their poor children.

I would love to see the DEA bust into the local walmart to take all their mind altering extremely dangerous and toxic drugs they are killing our citizens with. Fucking hypocrites in the country make me
Listen, i really want to fucking leave this thread. So can you PLEASE just say: Yes weed is a drugs. And maybe less dangerous than other drugs but still its a goddamn fucking strong drugs and with any goddamn fucking strong drugs its not good for you.

Please man, say something along those lines. Then we can get let this go.
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Listen, i really want to fucking leave this thread. So can you PLEASE just say: Yes weed is a drugs. And maybe less dangerous than other drugs but still its a goddamn fucking strong drugs and with any goddamn fucking strong drugs its not good for you.

Please man, say something along those lines. Then we can get let this go.
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No seriously though, Its gods creation.

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Oh, then all i have left to say is eventhough you served two tours you are a totally pathetic dumb fucking kid. I guess you werent born like this but most likely the weed made you this way...as it does with a lot of people. Loser.
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LOL. Ha ha...if what you say is right then Marijuana must be a real miracle drug that everyone should use because pot has given me superior intelligence over most of the population, I am a highly motivated hard worker, I did great in college, and there countless webmasters out there that are trying with no chance of achieving what I have to this point. So I guess Pot is the reason for my success. Maybe we should make a law that forces the less intelligent in our population to smoke pot so they can achieve all their dreams. Pot is a miracle from GOD. Period.
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Haven't heard of too many violent pot smokers lol!! Drunks can get mean and aggressive, usually you spark up a j and people get mellow and hungry lol!!
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LOL. Ha ha...if what you say is right then Marijuana must be a real miracle drug that everyone should use because pot has given me superior intelligence over most of the population, I am a highly motivated hard worker, I did great in college, and there countless webmasters out there that are trying with no chance of achieving what I have to this point. So I guess Pot is the reason for my success. Maybe we should make a law that forces the less intelligent in our population to smoke pot so they can achieve all their dreams. Pot is a miracle from GOD. Period.
Omg

Looks like another lunatic just got out of the closet. Holy shit dude...

I'm getting the Minusonebit feeling here...he always stayed under the radar and then one day he started saying stuff like you just did...and we all know how that ended

Fucking lunatic psycho
Its amazing how on gfy its always the dumbest fucking morons who think they are the most special...and yeah you sure are special but not in the way you think you are.

Retard
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Im glad you saw the humor and irony of my post Frank. But you do get an extra point for the minusonebit mention. But I bet people with Cancer, AIDS, or any wasting disease do think that marijuana is a miracle or gift from god. I bet.
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Oh heres comes magic plant from god bs again. Yes alcohol is more dangerous but please stop fucking acting as if weed is some kinda of miracle drug.

You realize (if youre not too damn stoned) that alcohol comes from earth as well right?

Fucking stoner idiots bs.

oh hey it's the village idiot again

humor us all and give one reason why marijuana should remain illegal while there are more damaging substances, named in this thread, that are legal.
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oh hey it's the village idiot again

humor us all and give one reason why marijuana should remain illegal while there are more damaging substances, named in this thread, that are legal.
He has none, like most of the closed minded idiots that populate our country.
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oh hey it's the village idiot again

humor us all and give one reason why marijuana should remain illegal while there are more damaging substances, named in this thread, that are legal.
If you wouldnt be stoned and dumb all the time you would actually realize that nowhere, read that again your dumb junkie, you too Notoldschoolbuttotallyretarded, nowhere did i say i think i should remain illegal.

After 3 pages you retarded potheads still have no clue what im saying. Its truly pathetic. Try sobering up for a at least a hour and read this thread again, maybe you'll get a clue then but im pretty sure your brain is already damaged too much.
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Dumb fucks..

Fuck, weedjunkies truly are the most dumb and annoying people on this earth...fucking hell what an idiots.
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Franck, you keep insisting that pot, like any other drug, is bad for you. Several times you mention it causes brain damage. I surmise you have no evidence to back this claim up. You're more or less going by what you heard or what you think you know.

Could you please cite a source, any source for this? Now I don't mean more anecdotal evidence like you know some pot heads, or "everybody knows it causes brain damage.".

I'll start so you can see what I mean. Here's a Doctor, a well respected one, that ran a study and feels that THC does NOT cause permanent brain damage.

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The use of cannabis does not cause permanent brain damage, researchers from the University of California at San Diego (UCSD), who reviewed the available data on the issue, said on 27 June. "The findings were kind of a surprise. One might have expected to see more impairment of higher mental function," said Dr. Igor Grant, a UCSD professor of psychiatry and the study's lead author. Other drugs, including alcohol, can cause brain damage.

His team analyzed data from 15 previously published, controlled studies involving 704 long-term cannabis users and 484 nonusers into the impact of long-term, recreational cannabis use on the neurocognitive ability of adults. The results, published in the July issue of the Journal of the International Neuropsychological Society, show that marijuana has only a marginally harmful long- term effect on learning and memory. No effect at all was seen on other functions, including reaction time, attention, language, reasoning ability, and perceptual and motor skills.

Researchers said the problems observed in learning and forgetting suggest that long-term marijuana use results in selective memory defects, but said the impact was of a very small magnitude. Earlier reviews had come to similar results.

(Source: Reuters of 27 June 2003, dpa of 29 June 2003)
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If you wouldnt be stoned and dumb all the time you would actually realize that nowhere, read that again your dumb junkie, you too Notoldschoolbuttotallyretarded, nowhere did i say i think i should remain illegal.

After 3 pages you retarded potheads still have no clue what im saying. Its truly pathetic. Try sobering up for a at least a hour and read this thread again, maybe you'll get a clue then but im pretty sure your brain is already damaged too much.
i haven't smoke in a week nor did i read this entire thread. i assumed that given you got your head far up your ass you would have wanted it to remain illegal. all "strong drugs" are not good for you?

what are you trying to say? it's hard to read through your typing mistakes and your rambling, name calling nonsense.

you're a riot. i wish you lived near here so i could hire you as a jester. at least then you'll make some money
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Alcohol causes permanent brain damage if crank every day, but marijuana does not cause brain damage if drank everyday
But it does lead to people typing up gems like this. Stoners.
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Dumb fucks..

Fuck, weedjunkies truly are the most dumb and annoying people on this earth...fucking hell what an idiots.
So your actual point is that people with addictive personalities can become mentally addicted to the high from Marijuana? Well of course. This is hardly revolutionary information you're offering us. What you're really doing is strongly voicing your opinion in hopes others will disagree and argue with you. The fact that your opinion is not based in fact probably doesn't even cross your mind.

You seem to have a pattern of this type of behavior. From what we can see over the last several years, you don't seem to be able to stop yourself from engaging in and even starting these types of arguments. Looks to me like you're addicted to GFY.

What's that? You can't be addicted to a message board? Sure you can! Look at you. Does that make you a GFY junkie?
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Franck, you keep insisting that pot, like any other drug, is bad for you. Several times you mention it causes brain damage. I surmise you have no evidence to back this claim up.
he said this? i really should read this thread in its entirety! i knew franck would make a fool of himself again it's a sad existence when you have to resort to being a village idiot to earn a measly pay from sig whoring.

who wants to wager those sources come up empty or from the feds?
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Another reason not to smoke pot. you might end up like this loser.

This could be U
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he said this? i really should read this thread in its entirety! i knew franck would make a fool of himself again it's a sad existence when you have to resort to being a village idiot to earn a measly pay from sig whoring.

who wants to wager those sources come up empty or from the feds?
Well maybe there's some information supporting the view that THC causes brain damage. I admit I haven't spent any meaningful time researching the subject either. The bulk of my knowledge really only lies in the information I have come across by happenstance. In many years though, most things i've read have always come to the same conclusion: There appears to be no meaningful or lasting side effects of smoking Marijuana.
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In many years though, most things i've read have always come to the same conclusion: There appears to be no meaningful or lasting side effects of smoking Marijuana.
exactly. one would think that given the substance has been used medicinally, spiritually and recreationally for thousands of years evidence of damaging effects would surface. i'd venture to say the only addictive potential - psychological addiction - isn't that credible. as noted in this thread, it's the feeling of the high one gets addicted to. those who get addicted to the high most likely have an addictive personality, and would get addicted to a plethora of things. meaning it's the user, not the cannabis. having smoked for 5+ years frequently, i can't say i've ever felt any psychological addiction even when taking long breaks. i'm sure many others would say the same.

it's habit forming if anything, which is far far from addiction.
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Let me clarify before Franck makes some more wild assumptions.

People UNDER THE INFLUENCE of Marijuana, often times do act stupid, childish and yes annoying for those not under the influence.

There is a huge difference between this and "Marijuana being bad for you", however.
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Should be 100% legalized for 18 and over at worst 21 and over period. Dont need to be wasting resources chasing it down, and arresting people over it. Tis silly.
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Tell me - what is so appealing on marijuana?

Do you ever actually EXPERIENCE anything while high? I don't mean watching a coffee machine I mean to experience something with other people.

I have seen far too many people watching cofee machines to be yet able to imagine any social aspect of smoking weed, and I would dare to say weed kills every party where it's mass consumed as I noticed.

Is that only to dissolve the fact you don't feel comfortable in the society that you balance that with the amount of weed you smoke? And narrowing the community you are meeting to other weed smokers?

I seriously hate contact with people on weed, there is NO way of social interaction, it's only a pathetic display of someone not willing to stand for himself so they rather turn into a mumbling, overreacting, antiactive zombies with childish behaviour.
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Old 02-21-2008, 01:20 PM   #132
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Another reason not to smoke pot. you might end up like this loser.

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Hahaha... that movie looks great! I had no idea about it. Thanks dood!
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I seriously hate contact with people on weed, there is NO way of social interaction, it's only a pathetic display of someone not willing to stand for himself so they rather turn into a mumbling, overreacting, antiactive zombies with childish behaviour.
Now you're just being ridiculous and dare I say a little childish yourself. Do you honestly think all people that smoke weed, regardless of how much or how often behave exactly the same way? You must have a fairly limited social circle or else it's you that attract losers that would even consider "staring at a coffee machine.".

Your post is about as silly as saying "I seriously hate contact with people on alcohol, there is NO way of peacful interaction, it's only a pathetic display of someone beating their wife and running over children in their car.".
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Do you ever actually EXPERIENCE anything while high? I don't mean watching a coffee machine I mean to experience something with other people.
yes, or i wouldn't smoke it. for me it greatly enhances music appreciation and the experience of music. as a result, listening to and producing music while high is damn fun and totally immersing. the same goes for movies, in fact any art. hiking also, it makes the walk through the forest that much better - you take the time to appreciate all that is around you

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I would dare to say weed kills every party where it's mass consumed as I noticed.
depends what type of parties you go to. i myself go to parties where the focus is music - dance parties, outdoor festivals, clubs, and so on. nothing better then smoking a spliff and dancing for hours.

like WarChild said, it seems you've only met the stereotypical stoner. not everyone crawls inside their head while high.

it's funny franck conveniently disappeared. what's the matter bud, can't find those sources? not making enough pesos from sig views in this thread? how sad
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Well ... people who smoke weed stink of shit ... good enough reason to class it an A drug for me ;) Bring that rating on!

I fucking HATE the smell... it's disgusting.
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Tell me - what is so appealing on marijuana?

Do you ever actually EXPERIENCE anything while high? I don't mean watching a coffee machine I mean to experience something with other people.

I have seen far too many people watching cofee machines to be yet able to imagine any social aspect of smoking weed, and I would dare to say weed kills every party where it's mass consumed as I noticed.

Is that only to dissolve the fact you don't feel comfortable in the society that you balance that with the amount of weed you smoke? And narrowing the community you are meeting to other weed smokers?

I seriously hate contact with people on weed, there is NO way of social interaction, it's only a pathetic display of someone not willing to stand for himself so they rather turn into a mumbling, overreacting, antiactive zombies with childish behaviour.

You are just plain ignorant. Your such a tool you just dont realize how many people are high and you have talked with them and never knew it. Only an idiot thinks that all pot smokers go around saying DUUUuuuude! LOL. The behaviors you speak of describe someone drunk or on pills more than someone high on weed. No way of social interaction? My god are you oblivious to the world around you. I know MANY people who are not zombies and WAY more successful than you will ever be, and they smoke everyday. BTW I could take any IQ test high out of my skull and still get a higher score than your dumb ass. You sir have become the zombie.
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Hahaha... that movie looks great! I had no idea about it. Thanks dood!
Shit, glad I added it to the thread. Its going to be awesome!
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Well ... people who smoke weed stink of shit ... good enough reason to class it an A drug for me ;) Bring that rating on!

I fucking HATE the smell... it's disgusting.
tobacco and alcohol smell any better?
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Well ... people who smoke weed stink of shit ... good enough reason to class it an A drug for me ;) Bring that rating on!

I fucking HATE the smell... it's disgusting.
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it's funny franck conveniently disappeared. what's the matter bud, can't find those sources? not making enough pesos from sig views in this thread? how sad
I dissapeared after you came in this thread and started talking shit after not even reading it and then you show what a fucking moron you are and instead of saying sorry, i just made something up and was wrong you keep on acting like an idiot. There was somewhat of a discussion going on before you started making up shit.
And junkie, all my sig money goes to charity. Whoops, looks like you are owned again.

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I'm of the mind that someone has a right to put whatever they want to put into their own bodies - and that right is unquestionable if there are possible health benefits that can be derived from doing so.

Both alcohol and marijuana have been shown to have health benefits. Booze, in moderation, has all sorts of cardiovascular benefits... and marijuana has certain medical benefits.

Little known fact: The American Medical Association was among the primary protesters to the U.S. government outlawing marijuana in the 1930's.
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These intensive horticultural techniques have led to fewer seeds being present in cannabis and a general increase in potency over the past 20 years. The average levels of THC in marijuana sold in United States rose from 3.5% in 1988 to 7% in 2003 and 8.5% in 2006
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_(drug)

I know wikipedia blah blah.

Regardless... now a days it's man made with all these different strains and what not.

And you are still depriving your brain of oxygen... it must be great for you when you sit there and hold your breath with smoke in your lungs.
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Thats not the point...its all about government , politics, money, etc.... imho bud is safer than bud light ;-)
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Thats not the point...its all about government , politics, money, etc.... imho bud is safer than bud light ;-)
Yeah blame politicians and money for your personal choices. Very responsible attitude.

I don't want to listen to this shit anymore.

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Dirty F you need to go watch Leaving Las Vegas
and shut the flying fuck up while at it.
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