Ever Been Stiffed by a Sponsor? - GoFuckYourself.com

acratophorum · 02-19-2008, 07:47 AM

Have you ever been stiffed by a sponsor? If so: who, for how much, and what did you do about it?

justsexxx · 02-19-2008, 07:55 AM

Yes
http://www.makingbank.com/

A few hundred USD I believe. First it was much higher, but thanks to one of their employees(not owners) we got a big chuck of our money at the end.

stever · 02-19-2008, 07:57 AM

adwealth.com scott pinkbits remember him
they ripped us for over 20k

to get back we just made better sites than them and made alot more $$$

the real magoo · 02-19-2008, 08:22 AM

Dieselaction never paid me and did not respond to any of my emails.
Solution : stopped promoting them.

I´ve been doing this for 7-8 years now and I have learned that you dont want to promote a sponsor to much until you receive that first check.
So they only owe me like a $1000.

CCBILL/verotel sponsors excluded.

I´m looking forward to all sorts of excuses from them further down this thread

LiveDose · 02-19-2008, 08:45 AM

Candid Clicks, Rush4Gold, IMFC (I think that was the name, sex toy company), Cyber Thrill.

I'm sure there are more.

Tanker · 02-19-2008, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiveDose

Candid Clicks, Rush4Gold, IMFC (I think that was the name, sex toy company), Cyber Thrill.

I'm sure there are more.

Rush4Gold that was one of my fist sponsors back in 97 when I was just building galleries and free sites I made a lot of money with their PPC but all the sudden it just stopped

LiveDose · 02-19-2008, 08:50 AM

I hear ya man. We sent them tons of clicks and then one day.... Puff! Gone!

acratophorum · 02-19-2008, 11:47 AM

Guess it's not such a big problem...

martinsc · 02-19-2008, 11:54 AM

not yet....

After Shock Media · 02-20-2008, 01:52 AM

After all of this time I would be fibbing my ass off if I said I haven't.

Shit I could not even tell you how many forgotten programs out there that have either gone out of business or are still around that I started a basic promo with and realized the ratio's were shit so I never met the minimum payouts. Was not about to send another 50k hits to try to get another sale. Usually I just forgot about them though. I would add them in rotation somewhere, never see any returns and take them out or just forget about them.

Horny Guy · 02-20-2008, 02:02 AM

porncash like many others and some other small stuff...been lucky not a lot tho in 7years

Theo · 02-26-2008, 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the real magoo

Dieselaction never paid me and did not respond to any of my emails.
Solution : stopped promoting them.

Hello,

I tried to locate your contact info so far with no luck. Can you please contact me on icq#301989773 email: [email protected] (confirm spamarrest please) or even call me at 0035799066883 and I'll check this out asap.

who · 02-26-2008, 05:20 AM

Yes Digibucks. They owe me a few thousand.

Xxxavier · 02-26-2008, 05:43 AM

Not yet!
But stats are being compiled...
I promiss U that if ANY sponsor trys to play that game with me.
I will let the world know.

18teens · 03-01-2008, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the real magoo

Dieselaction never paid me and did not respond to any of my emails.
Solution : stopped promoting them.

It looks like DieselAction is trying to stiff me too. Soul_Rebel has been e-mailed about me not getting paid and I have put in 2 support tickets. I got no response so I'm spending my Saturday night pulling fucking DieselAction links. You don't fuck around with people's money and you sure as hell don't ignore them them when they ask about it.

Nismo · 03-01-2008, 10:29 PM

yes - orgasmcash about 4 years ago.

robwod · 03-02-2008, 12:28 AM

I think most affiliates who've been around the "game" for any length of time will have likely been stiffed by at least one program.

I can think of one right away that affected many: iBill -- okay, they're not exactly an affiliate, but they were the ones processing the affiliate checks.

For me, there's been a few over the years. But of all the sponsors I have dealt with since the 90's, there are two others that will never get so much as a mention on any of my sites, let alone an actual link or any sort of promotion -- Mystique and Olivers Money. There's a better chance of being hit by a falling satellite than either of those getting a link from me.

Having said that, I can't count how many times a solo model site has just disappeared or the join link removed -- with absolutely no notice to affiliates. Those are always nice surprises too.

Cash · 03-02-2008, 01:00 AM

a dialer company (Telcoweb I believe), years ago when they all died, for $1.3k or something ...

the real magoo · 03-02-2008, 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 18teens

It looks like DieselAction is trying to stiff me too. Soul_Rebel has been e-mailed about me not getting paid and I have put in 2 support tickets. I got no response so I'm spending my Saturday night pulling fucking DieselAction links. You don't fuck around with people's money and you sure as hell don't ignore them them when they ask about it.

Well, Theo aka Soul Rebel, made contact last week and told me they issued a new wire. If that is true the money should turn up next week.

SmutGiant · 03-02-2008, 03:35 AM

it's been a while and there have been a few...

off the top of my head: intergal, cashforlink.... that's all i remember right now, it's been years...

I knew $70 per free trial signup was too good to be true (intergal)

raven1083 · 03-02-2008, 03:51 AM

nope, i haven't!

rowan · 03-02-2008, 05:49 AM

I can't recall ever being stiffed by a specific sponsor, but ibill, globill and PSW going out of biz each resulted in a loss of $ for myself.

Dennis69 · 03-02-2008, 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cash

a dialer company (Telcoweb I believe), years ago when they all died, for $1.3k or something ...

Ya that some dialer company stiffed me as well and I also got stiffed by Amateur Pages way back as well

Zuzana Designs · 03-02-2008, 06:07 AM

I have not been yet. Some clients have stiffed me though

diesel · 03-02-2008, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the real magoo

Well, Theo aka Soul Rebel, made contact last week and told me they issued a new wire. If that is true the money should turn up next week.

Your wire has been lost because your data missed the bank name from what I read on the ticket. Its 100% our fault we didnt contact you and it was due to the heavy payout through the wires recently and we have just missed that it doesnt have the bank name. Your wire was just stuck in the bank. I am very sorry for the issue and it was for a first time we missed a payment in such a way since our first payout in 2001. We will set your payout on higher % for march to compensate the mess.
If you have any further questions I am on [email protected] or ICQ: 15123215
Sorry again!

the real magoo · 03-11-2008, 06:53 AM

it´s now been 2 weeks and still no sign of that money.

diesel · 03-11-2008, 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the real magoo

it´s now been 2 weeks and still no sign of that money.

Your wire was set for the closest next payout which took a place today and it is on the way to you. If you have any questions about it, please contact us, this forum is not our support system.

My contact details:
[email protected] icq: 15123215

Thank you.

pornguy · 03-11-2008, 08:25 AM

Wont say name, because its just not right. But got stiffed for 4k. in fact about 20 webmasters did. All WAY back in the day.

tranza · 03-11-2008, 08:27 AM

#1: I was scammed by 12clicks old PPC program and never got paid when I first started working in this industry.

#2: I got banned from Amateur Allure, without pay, after Jimmy-3-ways decided to say that Krawl traffic was 100% from China and got banned from their network.

#3: Never got any payment from Amateur Wealth, and never been able to contact their support.

12clicks · 03-12-2008, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranza

#1: I was scammed by 12clicks old PPC program and never got paid when I first started working in this industry.

#2: I got banned from Amateur Allure, without pay, after Jimmy-3-ways decided to say that Krawl traffic was 100% from China and got banned from their network.

#3: Never got any payment from Amateur Wealth, and never been able to contact their support.

sounds like you're a thief.
3 different sponsors, three different stories, all with you being innocent.

sure punk.

SeniorX · 03-12-2008, 10:22 AM

Kanoodle.com - for a lot. They changed their affiliate program, so that what affiliates earned for sending them traffic was instead of cash converted to Kanoodle credits. So basically you were able to use the money you earned for sending them traffic to buy back less traffic. Few months later Kanoodle closed affiliate accounts completely and people were not even able to use the credits.

the real magoo · 03-14-2008, 08:45 AM

Since I did receive the money Dieselaction owed me, today, I would like to revoke the earlier statements I made about them.

I appreciate the effort and I will reconsider marketing their sites again.

Forkbeard · 03-14-2008, 07:06 PM

I've been pretty lucky, the only program I know of that has nakedly and deliberately stiffed me was GordCash, when they just baldly announced that they were going to stop paying affiliates for existing rebills. ( thread ) Fortunately, the amount involved was truly trivial because I had never got past sending them minor test traffic.

I've lost a ton more money to programs that change up their affiliate software and links without making any provision to keep the old links working. This pisses me off especially when the old links still take my surfers to the program and generate sales. But a lot of times, this is technical incompetence and cluelessness, not deliberate theft.

Pics Traffic · 03-14-2008, 07:10 PM

pibcash.com

xxxRumor · 03-14-2008, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Wont say name, because its just not right. But got stiffed for 4k. in fact about 20 webmasters did.

Why is that not right; what is the name? reason for none payment?

Fap · 03-14-2008, 09:21 PM

$5k by College Poker Tournament but i think they arent around anymore, this was a few years ago. They paid one month then we made a deal for two more months.. never got paid

DigitalPimp · 03-14-2008, 09:26 PM

Few come to mind ...

AdWealth
SexTraffic
AlphaMoney
Big Players
iBill

VeriSexy · 03-14-2008, 11:37 PM

Now that you mentioned it.. big players also ripped me off too

Iron Fist · 03-14-2008, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robwod

Having said that, I can't count how many times a solo model site has just disappeared or the join link removed -- with absolutely no notice to affiliates. Those are always nice surprises too.

When you get the email that says...

"You know me as someone who absolutely HATES to pull sites offline, but due to a personal family crisis, we have had to shut down somesologirlmodel.com out of respect for the family..."

You know you've just been fucked over.

The time making gals.

The time submitting them.

The time building sites possibly.

The time making thumbnails.

The time cleaning up crappy content so you can make a sale.

The time getting your links right and banners online.

But hey.... it's just biz right? No hard feelings... we'll just do it again next month...

(this is not meant to offend those programs where this has NEVER happened - you know who you are, no need to out sponsors on this thread - I could, and have e-mails to back my claims up for every time this has happened to me - fuck it's been a lot and yes I mainly promote solo teen girls!)

02-19-2008, 08:45 AM	#5
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02-19-2008, 08:50 AM	#7
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02-20-2008, 01:52 AM	#10
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02-19-2008, 07:47 AM	#1
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02-19-2008, 07:55 AM	#2
justsexxx Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 13,723	Yes http://www.makingbank.com/ A few hundred USD I believe. First it was much higher, but thanks to one of their employees(not owners) we got a big chuck of our money at the end. __________________ Questions? ICQ: 125184542

02-19-2008, 07:57 AM	#3
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02-19-2008, 08:22 AM	#4
the real magoo So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: EU Posts: 1,637	Dieselaction never paid me and did not respond to any of my emails. Solution : stopped promoting them. I´ve been doing this for 7-8 years now and I have learned that you dont want to promote a sponsor to much until you receive that first check. So they only owe me like a $1000. CCBILL/verotel sponsors excluded. I´m looking forward to all sorts of excuses from them further down this thread

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02-26-2008, 05:20 AM	#13
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02-26-2008, 05:43 AM	#14
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03-02-2008, 12:28 AM	#17
robwod Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,539	I think most affiliates who've been around the "game" for any length of time will have likely been stiffed by at least one program. I can think of one right away that affected many: iBill -- okay, they're not exactly an affiliate, but they were the ones processing the affiliate checks. For me, there's been a few over the years. But of all the sponsors I have dealt with since the 90's, there are two others that will never get so much as a mention on any of my sites, let alone an actual link or any sort of promotion -- Mystique and Olivers Money. There's a better chance of being hit by a falling satellite than either of those getting a link from me. Having said that, I can't count how many times a solo model site has just disappeared or the join link removed -- with absolutely no notice to affiliates. Those are always nice surprises too. Last edited by robwod; 03-02-2008 at 12:29 AM..

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03-02-2008, 03:35 AM	#20
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03-02-2008, 05:49 AM	#22
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	I can't recall ever being stiffed by a specific sponsor, but ibill, globill and PSW going out of biz each resulted in a loss of $ for myself.

03-02-2008, 06:07 AM	#24
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03-11-2008, 06:53 AM	#26
the real magoo So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: EU Posts: 1,637	it´s now been 2 weeks and still no sign of that money.

03-11-2008, 08:25 AM	#28
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03-12-2008, 10:22 AM	#31
SeniorX Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 302	Kanoodle.com - for a lot. They changed their affiliate program, so that what affiliates earned for sending them traffic was instead of cash converted to Kanoodle credits. So basically you were able to use the money you earned for sending them traffic to buy back less traffic. Few months later Kanoodle closed affiliate accounts completely and people were not even able to use the credits.

03-14-2008, 08:45 AM	#32
the real magoo So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: EU Posts: 1,637	Since I did receive the money Dieselaction owed me, today, I would like to revoke the earlier statements I made about them. I appreciate the effort and I will reconsider marketing their sites again.

03-14-2008, 07:06 PM	#33
Forkbeard Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: I Roam Around Posts: 2,236	I've been pretty lucky, the only program I know of that has nakedly and deliberately stiffed me was GordCash, when they just baldly announced that they were going to stop paying affiliates for existing rebills. ( thread ) Fortunately, the amount involved was truly trivial because I had never got past sending them minor test traffic. I've lost a ton more money to programs that change up their affiliate software and links without making any provision to keep the old links working. This pisses me off especially when the old links still take my surfers to the program and generate sales. But a lot of times, this is technical incompetence and cluelessness, not deliberate theft. __________________ Offering sponsored blog posts and custom writing services.

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