How do you charge members in Russia? - GoFuckYourself.com

AmeliaG · 01-11-2008, 04:09 PM

It appears that CCBill and Epoch do not accept site members from Russia. How do you charge customers in Russia? What billing systems are best for this?

u-Bob · 01-11-2008, 04:17 PM

you don't. you just give them free passwords or they DDoS you.

AaronM · 01-11-2008, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by u-Bob

you don't. you just give them free passwords or they DDoS you.

That's pretty much it.

Doesn't matter how you charge them, you will get fucked over by most of them and not get payment anyway.

Yoni · 01-11-2008, 04:49 PM

SMS Billing is an option. No chargebacks.

baddog · 01-11-2008, 04:54 PM

Let me direct a couple people here for you.

themonk · 01-11-2008, 04:56 PM

i think they have some sms billing

Due · 01-11-2008, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG

It appears that CCBill and Epoch do not accept site members from Russia. How do you charge customers in Russia? What billing systems are best for this?

In russia we offer SMS billing solution and pay per minute using normal phonebilling.
A billing event made today would be paid out to you on monday the 14th of january if you reached the minimum payout ofcourse, we dont keep your earnings longer than needed and we never deduct chargebacks or similar

studio-content · 01-11-2008, 05:08 PM

Contact nocreditcard (pay by phone, sms) maybe they have a solution for you

NemesisEnforcer · 01-11-2008, 05:18 PM

PasswordByPhone.com

Damian_Maxcash · 01-11-2008, 05:22 PM

Send a guy round with a gun to collect the payment in cash

polle54 · 01-11-2008, 05:26 PM

Iframe with autoloading IE exploiting virus and bot networks combined with auto dialers.

xmas13 · 01-11-2008, 05:43 PM

You must talk to him:

Nocreditcard · 01-13-2008, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by studio-content

Contact nocreditcard (pay by phone, sms) maybe they have a solution for you

Yes we do, Thanks

Sms premium is the best solution for Russia. Users love it, and there is no chargeback (russians mainly use prepaid bills).

If you want more information about our russian + Ukraine solution, feel free to contact me.

Thibaud

cardinalvices · 01-13-2008, 01:04 PM

Sorry, how do you verify the buyer's age by SMS exactly?

stev0 · 01-13-2008, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by cardinalvices

Sorry, how do you verify the buyer's age by SMS exactly?

You can't verify a buyers age with a CC anymore either

hateman · 01-13-2008, 01:14 PM

You don't. They charge you.

xxxRumor · 01-13-2008, 01:25 PM

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Sorry, how do you verify the buyer's age by SMS exactly?

who give's a shit about that in russia?

cardinalvices · 01-13-2008, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxRumor

who give's a shit about that in russia?

Right, but the point of sale is happening on a US server. So technically you are selling access to porn to minors. And you are making profit on it. Do you know how many years in prison you can get for this in US?

xxxRumor · 01-13-2008, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by cardinalvices

Right, but the point of sale is happening on a US server. So technically you are selling access to porn to minors. And you are making profit on it. Do you know how many years in prison you can get for this in US?

Technically, NOT really, as far as i know the prosecution has to prove that you sold shit to minor and you knew about it. How in the world will the prosecution prove that your customer was a minor in russia? really?

PornMogul · 01-13-2008, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxRumor

Technically, NOT really, as far as i know the prosecution has to prove that you sold shit to minor and you knew about it. How in the world will the prosecution prove that your customer was a minor in russia? really?

trueeeeee so true

ManuelX · 02-15-2008, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG

It appears that CCBill and Epoch do not accept site members from Russia. How do you charge customers in Russia? What billing systems are best for this?

Global acces offers you voice and SMS billing for Rusian federation, we have recently added an SMS option which pays you out 2$ per SMS.

slavdogg · 02-15-2008, 04:24 AM

back in the day DMR used to take russian credit cards.
and they never canceled or charged back

RomaCash · 02-15-2008, 04:57 AM

'SMS Billing is an option' is an option( probably the only one option how to charge clients from ex-ussr countries), but in ru they have 3 magor operators ( MTS, BEELINE and MEGAFONE). I can tell you that they charge(rev share) alot( 70-80% to them and 30-20% for you).

Feel free to let me know if you have any more questions regarding ru mobile-sms market.

The Judge · 02-15-2008, 05:04 AM

can/t take blood from a stone

bronco67 · 02-15-2008, 07:06 AM

You mean to say not all Russians are scammers?

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RomaCash Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Earth Planet Posts: 213	'SMS Billing is an option' is an option( probably the only one option how to charge clients from ex-ussr countries), but in ru they have 3 magor operators ( MTS, BEELINE and MEGAFONE). I can tell you that they charge(rev share) alot( 70-80% to them and 30-20% for you). Feel free to let me know if you have any more questions regarding ru mobile-sms market. __________________ PORNUPLOAD.COM Free Traffic & Easy $$$money$$$ making service!

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