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AmeliaG 01-11-2008 04:09 PM

How do you charge members in Russia?
 
It appears that CCBill and Epoch do not accept site members from Russia. How do you charge customers in Russia? What billing systems are best for this?

u-Bob 01-11-2008 04:17 PM

you don't. you just give them free passwords or they DDoS you.

AaronM 01-11-2008 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 13639660)
you don't. you just give them free passwords or they DDoS you.


That's pretty much it.

Doesn't matter how you charge them, you will get fucked over by most of them and not get payment anyway.

Yoni 01-11-2008 04:49 PM

SMS Billing is an option. No chargebacks.

baddog 01-11-2008 04:54 PM

Let me direct a couple people here for you.

themonk 01-11-2008 04:56 PM

i think they have some sms billing

Due 01-11-2008 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 13639623)
It appears that CCBill and Epoch do not accept site members from Russia. How do you charge customers in Russia? What billing systems are best for this?

In russia we offer SMS billing solution and pay per minute using normal phonebilling.
A billing event made today would be paid out to you on monday the 14th of january if you reached the minimum payout ofcourse, we dont keep your earnings longer than needed and we never deduct chargebacks or similar

studio-content 01-11-2008 05:08 PM

Contact nocreditcard (pay by phone, sms) maybe they have a solution for you

NemesisEnforcer 01-11-2008 05:18 PM

PasswordByPhone.com

Damian_Maxcash 01-11-2008 05:22 PM

Send a guy round with a gun to collect the payment in cash

polle54 01-11-2008 05:26 PM

Iframe with autoloading IE exploiting virus and bot networks combined with auto dialers.

xmas13 01-11-2008 05:43 PM

You must talk to him:

http://blogs.chron.com/blog9/promises.jpg

Nocreditcard 01-13-2008 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by studio-content (Post 13639889)
Contact nocreditcard (pay by phone, sms) maybe they have a solution for you

Yes we do, Thanks :winkwink:

Sms premium is the best solution for Russia. Users love it, and there is no chargeback (russians mainly use prepaid bills).

If you want more information about our russian + Ukraine solution, feel free to contact me.

Thibaud

cardinalvices 01-13-2008 01:04 PM

Sorry, how do you verify the buyer's age by SMS exactly?

stev0 01-13-2008 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by cardinalvices (Post 13646462)
Sorry, how do you verify the buyer's age by SMS exactly?

You can't verify a buyers age with a CC anymore either :2 cents:

hateman 01-13-2008 01:14 PM

You don't. They charge you.

xxxRumor 01-13-2008 01:25 PM

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Sorry, how do you verify the buyer's age by SMS exactly?
who give's a shit about that in russia?

http://img0.liveinternet.ru/images/a...38620_post.jpg

cardinalvices 01-13-2008 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxRumor (Post 13646540)
who give's a shit about that in russia?

http://img0.liveinternet.ru/images/a...38620_post.jpg

Right, but the point of sale is happening on a US server. So technically you are selling access to porn to minors. And you are making profit on it. Do you know how many years in prison you can get for this in US?

xxxRumor 01-13-2008 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by cardinalvices (Post 13646592)
Right, but the point of sale is happening on a US server. So technically you are selling access to porn to minors. And you are making profit on it. Do you know how many years in prison you can get for this in US?

Technically, NOT really, as far as i know the prosecution has to prove that you sold shit to minor and you knew about it. How in the world will the prosecution prove that your customer was a minor in russia? really?

PornMogul 01-13-2008 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxRumor (Post 13647814)
Technically, NOT really, as far as i know the prosecution has to prove that you sold shit to minor and you knew about it. How in the world will the prosecution prove that your customer was a minor in russia? really?

trueeeeee so true:pimp

ManuelX 02-15-2008 04:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 13639623)
It appears that CCBill and Epoch do not accept site members from Russia. How do you charge customers in Russia? What billing systems are best for this?

Global acces offers you voice and SMS billing for Rusian federation, we have recently added an SMS option which pays you out 2$ per SMS.

slavdogg 02-15-2008 04:24 AM

back in the day DMR used to take russian credit cards.
and they never canceled or charged back

RomaCash 02-15-2008 04:57 AM

'SMS Billing is an option' is an option( probably the only one option how to charge clients from ex-ussr countries), but in ru they have 3 magor operators ( MTS, BEELINE and MEGAFONE). I can tell you that they charge(rev share) alot( 70-80% to them and 30-20% for you).

Feel free to let me know if you have any more questions regarding ru mobile-sms market.

The Judge 02-15-2008 05:04 AM

can/t take blood from a stone

bronco67 02-15-2008 07:06 AM

You mean to say not all Russians are scammers?


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