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Old 01-11-2008, 04:09 PM   #1
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How do you charge members in Russia?
It appears that CCBill and Epoch do not accept site members from Russia. How do you charge customers in Russia? What billing systems are best for this?
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Old 01-11-2008, 04:17 PM   #2
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you don't. you just give them free passwords or they DDoS you.
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Old 01-11-2008, 04:18 PM   #3
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you don't. you just give them free passwords or they DDoS you.

That's pretty much it.

Doesn't matter how you charge them, you will get fucked over by most of them and not get payment anyway.
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Old 01-11-2008, 04:49 PM   #4
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SMS Billing is an option. No chargebacks.
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Old 01-11-2008, 04:54 PM   #5
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Old 01-11-2008, 04:56 PM   #6
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i think they have some sms billing
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Old 01-11-2008, 05:01 PM   #7
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It appears that CCBill and Epoch do not accept site members from Russia. How do you charge customers in Russia? What billing systems are best for this?
In russia we offer SMS billing solution and pay per minute using normal phonebilling.
A billing event made today would be paid out to you on monday the 14th of january if you reached the minimum payout ofcourse, we dont keep your earnings longer than needed and we never deduct chargebacks or similar
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Old 01-11-2008, 05:08 PM   #8
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Contact nocreditcard (pay by phone, sms) maybe they have a solution for you
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Old 01-11-2008, 05:18 PM   #9
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Old 01-11-2008, 05:22 PM   #10
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Send a guy round with a gun to collect the payment in cash
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Old 01-11-2008, 05:26 PM   #11
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Old 01-11-2008, 05:43 PM   #12
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Old 01-13-2008, 01:02 PM   #13
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Contact nocreditcard (pay by phone, sms) maybe they have a solution for you
Yes we do, Thanks

Sms premium is the best solution for Russia. Users love it, and there is no chargeback (russians mainly use prepaid bills).

If you want more information about our russian + Ukraine solution, feel free to contact me.

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Old 01-13-2008, 01:04 PM   #14
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Sorry, how do you verify the buyer's age by SMS exactly?
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Old 01-13-2008, 01:05 PM   #15
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Sorry, how do you verify the buyer's age by SMS exactly?
You can't verify a buyers age with a CC anymore either
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Old 01-13-2008, 01:14 PM   #16
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You don't. They charge you.
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Old 01-13-2008, 01:25 PM   #17
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who give's a shit about that in russia?
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Old 01-13-2008, 01:42 PM   #18
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who give's a shit about that in russia?
Right, but the point of sale is happening on a US server. So technically you are selling access to porn to minors. And you are making profit on it. Do you know how many years in prison you can get for this in US?
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Right, but the point of sale is happening on a US server. So technically you are selling access to porn to minors. And you are making profit on it. Do you know how many years in prison you can get for this in US?
Technically, NOT really, as far as i know the prosecution has to prove that you sold shit to minor and you knew about it. How in the world will the prosecution prove that your customer was a minor in russia? really?
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Old 01-13-2008, 08:39 PM   #20
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Technically, NOT really, as far as i know the prosecution has to prove that you sold shit to minor and you knew about it. How in the world will the prosecution prove that your customer was a minor in russia? really?
trueeeeee so true
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Old 02-15-2008, 04:17 AM   #21
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It appears that CCBill and Epoch do not accept site members from Russia. How do you charge customers in Russia? What billing systems are best for this?
Global acces offers you voice and SMS billing for Rusian federation, we have recently added an SMS option which pays you out 2$ per SMS.
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Old 02-15-2008, 04:24 AM   #22
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back in the day DMR used to take russian credit cards.
and they never canceled or charged back
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Old 02-15-2008, 04:57 AM   #23
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'SMS Billing is an option' is an option( probably the only one option how to charge clients from ex-ussr countries), but in ru they have 3 magor operators ( MTS, BEELINE and MEGAFONE). I can tell you that they charge(rev share) alot( 70-80% to them and 30-20% for you).

Feel free to let me know if you have any more questions regarding ru mobile-sms market.
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Old 02-15-2008, 05:04 AM   #24
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Old 02-15-2008, 07:06 AM   #25
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You mean to say not all Russians are scammers?
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