What is left out there for billing - GoFuckYourself.com

minniesoporno · 02-01-2008, 07:22 AM

I am wondering what is left out there for payment proccesses.

I know Ccbill seems to be ranking number one but what do people use if they can't visa on a ccbill account do they still get ccbill and ignore the visa users or what is the next best option out there.

I know verotel but I am wondering if there is something else that also offers shopping channel feature.

BuggyG · 02-01-2008, 08:12 AM

online chequeing(wts).. banking(wts).. paycom.. umm any others I'm sure people will find in the blanks for you. for ones I missed

minniesoporno · 02-01-2008, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BuggyG

online chequeing(wts).. banking(wts).. paycom.. umm any others I'm sure people will find in the blanks for you. for ones I missed

When I went to the paycom website it wasn't working so I am assuming they are out of busienss.

NETbilling · 02-01-2008, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BuggyG

online chequeing(wts).. banking(wts).. paycom.. umm any others I'm sure people will find in the blanks for you. for ones I missed

We process for thousands of adult and mainstream merchants.

Mitch

emjay · 02-01-2008, 09:51 AM

Hi minniesoporno :-)

Phone billing remains a convienient way of surfers to pay you, not least since practically everyone has access to one.

Whilst such billing is not suitable for monthly recurring memberships, it is a great way to pay for trials or limited access for say 24 hours.

Furthermore, our platform is geo-targeted in 37 languages, allowing you to comminicate with surfers in a language they understand (theirs!), and make money from countries you maybe did not even know existed lol

Hit me up anytime with questions :-)

Mickey_ · 02-01-2008, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by minniesoporno

When I went to the paycom website it wasn't working so I am assuming they are out of busienss.

http://www.epoch.com/

bizarrejan · 02-01-2008, 12:22 PM

jettis, 365 billing, epoch,

sortie · 02-01-2008, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by minniesoporno

I am wondering what is left out there for payment proccesses.

I know Ccbill seems to be ranking number one but what do people use if they can't visa on a ccbill account do they still get ccbill and ignore the visa users or what is the next best option out there.

I know verotel but I am wondering if there is something else that also offers shopping channel feature.

If you are going it alone with little cash then go with Verotel tickets club so you can use visa and also go with ccbill. Give webmasters a choice of which processor they want to use and send them to the tour for their processor.

Buster Cherry · 02-01-2008, 12:30 PM

How about Zombaio?

beemk · 02-01-2008, 12:35 PM

why would you want to run a site without visa? you're throwing money away.

candyflip · 02-01-2008, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by beemk

why would you want to run a site without visa? you're throwing money away.

She really doesn't know what she's doing. I have a feeling things are only going to get worse for her if she continues like this.

AdultTrafficMedia · 02-01-2008, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by beemk

why would you want to run a site without visa? you're throwing money away.

Yep. Utter madness even considering processing without Visa.

I read a while back that Visa claim to have almost a billion cards issued worldwide. Reason enough to not even contemplate processing without them.

rowan · 02-01-2008, 02:44 PM

One option is to process with Verotel until you get enough $ to pay your $750 for Visa.

Another is to go with ccbill, exclude Visa, and hope you make up the $750 from Mastercard and check payments (or do M/C charge as well these days?)

If you're planning to open your site to affiliates then neither option is really that desirable. You really need to have Visa from day 1 in that case.

Rand · 02-01-2008, 04:06 PM

Epoch is the company that once went by the name Paycom.

For the record, the marketing of Paycom.net has ceased entirely. Epoch continues to process as it has since 1996.

As for contemplating the idea of not accepting Visa, I would advise you to seriously reconsider. Visa can account for as much as 70% of your business. Epoch no longer even accepts clients unless they register with Visa. When you consider that the Visa fee is really your only up-front cost for processing, as there are no set-up fees, it needs to be built into your business plan.

I hope you get your online business set up and it does so well that one day we can look back at this post and laugh our asses off.

Feel free to hit me up if you have any questions.

Lance69 · 02-01-2008, 04:21 PM

I think part of her problem is she is based in Canada, with regard to the Visa issue, and less the 750 dollar issue.
I say Verotel and NATS, then one of the others as a secondary / phone / checking biller.

GigoloMason · 02-01-2008, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by minniesoporno

When I went to the paycom website it wasn't working so I am assuming they are out of busienss.

A) Looks like you didn't look up the correct URL for paycom\epoch.
B) Why VISA kick you back? If you got kicked back by them they'll kick you back no matter who you try to process through.

minniesoporno · 02-14-2008, 07:07 PM

I was looking at netcash they seem interesting, might be something I could use for my store on my site.

it's ccbill with no visa and verotel as my visa option. or i might just verotel by itself.

I do not need pressure from people what I should use it's coming out from my pocket and mine alone, if you want to front the cost for me to get visa with ccbill then go right ahead.

aico · 02-14-2008, 07:10 PM

Didn't you quit and write some huge diary about how your site fucked your entire life up?

minniesoporno · 02-14-2008, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rand

Epoch is the company that once went by the name Paycom.

For the record, the marketing of Paycom.net has ceased entirely. Epoch continues to process as it has since 1996.

As for contemplating the idea of not accepting Visa, I would advise you to seriously reconsider. Visa can account for as much as 70% of your business. Epoch no longer even accepts clients unless they register with Visa. When you consider that the Visa fee is really your only up-front cost for processing, as there are no set-up fees, it needs to be built into your business plan.

I hope you get your online business set up and it does so well that one day we can look back at this post and laugh our asses off.

Feel free to hit me up if you have any questions.

I have sent many emails to epoch over a week now and never got a reply not even an automative one.

minniesoporno · 02-14-2008, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by aico

Didn't you quit and write some huge diary about how your site fucked your entire life up?

Did you read the solution of what happened after i made that post.

NETbilling · 02-14-2008, 08:48 PM

Visa will be the majority of your sales. Do not even consider not having it.

minniesoporno · 02-14-2008, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by NetBilling

Visa will be the majority of your sales. Do not even consider not having it.

I already talked to netbilling and yall have some high ass requirements. so there is no reason for you to be posting on this.

its final and there is no other way around it its ccbill with no visa and verotel for visa.

unless ccbill can magically let visa happen on my account yall have no say in what is on my site.

aico · 02-14-2008, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by minniesoporno

Did you read the solution of what happened after i made that post.

no, I did not.

aico · 02-14-2008, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by minniesoporno

I already talked to netbilling and yall have some high ass requirements. so there is no reason for you to be posting on this.

its final and there is no other way around it its ccbill with no visa and verotel for visa.

unless ccbill can magically let visa happen on my account yall have no say in what is on my site.

lol, you come here for advice, then basically tell everyone who gives it to you to fuck off. Good luck to ya. 2 owners of 2 of the biggest processors chimed in here for you, but just ignore them, they have no idea what they are talking about.

rowan · 02-14-2008, 10:05 PM

Gotta spend money to make money

minniesoporno · 02-15-2008, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by aico

lol, you come here for advice, then basically tell everyone who gives it to you to fuck off. Good luck to ya. 2 owners of 2 of the biggest processors chimed in here for you, but just ignore them, they have no idea what they are talking about.

I did not ignore them I sent Epoch serval emails about what I wanted they never got back to me.

Netbilling has HIGH requirements

that a small start up website can not do

and I know it takes money to spend money I have already spent every cent I have.

and I refuse to be pressured in the bull shit that is being said here from most of the wankers in here and who do not even run a full pay site.

a lot of the bigger companies forget where they came from and swear money just shat out their ass. so since they can shit out money soo damn easily they should have no fucking problem giving it away.

This board is called go fuck yourself right I thought I was living up to its name.

aico · 02-15-2008, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by minniesoporno

I did not ignore them I sent Epoch serval emails about what I wanted they never got back to me.

Netbilling has HIGH requirements

that a small start up website can not do

and I know it takes money to spend money I have already spent every cent I have.

and I refuse to be pressured in the bull shit that is being said here from most of the wankers in here and who do not even run a full pay site.

a lot of the bigger companies forget where they came from and swear money just shat out their ass. so since they can shit out money soo damn easily they should have no fucking problem giving it away.

This board is called go fuck yourself right I thought I was living up to its name.

You don't need to run a website to know that there is a $750 Visa fee, it's common knowledge, and there is no getting around it. And if you think $750 is a big expense, you might want to rethink having a website and stick to doing cam shows.

nudecanada · 02-15-2008, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by minniesoporno

I already talked to netbilling and yall have some high ass requirements. so there is no reason for you to be posting on this.

its final and there is no other way around it its ccbill with no visa and verotel for visa.

unless ccbill can magically let visa happen on my account yall have no say in what is on my site.

Fuck you're an idiot, always have been.

Their requirements are not "high ass" at all. You just have no money and no brain to start up in this business, let alone last in it.

Using Verotel for Visa and CCBill for the rest is fucking ghetto... then again... the apple does not fall far from the tree.

venus · 02-15-2008, 10:28 PM

Mitch was not tryng to pressure you, he was stating a fact. I have ran my paysite for 11 yrs now and I will tell you the exact same thing, if you do not take visa you will not make enough money to pay your hosting. the majority of surfers use Visa. Its that simple.

But go do it your way, its your site, your your thing, just dont be a bith when people answer your questions, otherwise no one will help you again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by minniesoporno

and I refuse to be pressured in the bull shit that is being said here from most of the wankers in here and who do not even run a full pay site.

a lot of the bigger companies forget where they came from and swear money just shat out their ass. so since they can shit out money soo damn easily they should have no fucking problem giving it away.

This board is called go fuck yourself right I thought I was living up to its name.

venus · 02-15-2008, 10:29 PM

the only other option I can think of that would work for you is Ibill

Sly · 02-16-2008, 11:05 AM

To give you an idea of what not accepting Visa means... I do not own a MasterCard. I only use Visa and American Express. I can't even think of anybody that I know that regularly uses a MasterCard, aside from debit purchases.

RegUser · 02-16-2008, 06:43 PM

I am not sure why everyone jumps to bash each other so fast rather than offering advice and walking away from it.
I dont think $750.00 is low for everyone but then again it is not high either.
The real problem is that other than ccbill for mastercard, there appears to be no option at all for many webmasters.
The requirements of netbilling are simply out of question.

»Rob Content« · 02-16-2008, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by minniesoporno

I did not ignore them I sent Epoch serval emails about what I wanted they never got back to me.

Netbilling has HIGH requirements

that a small start up website can not do

and I know it takes money to spend money I have already spent every cent I have.

and I refuse to be pressured in the bull shit that is being said here from most of the wankers in here and who do not even run a full pay site.

a lot of the bigger companies forget where they came from and swear money just shat out their ass. so since they can shit out money soo damn easily they should have no fucking problem giving it away.

This board is called go fuck yourself right I thought I was living up to its name.

Billing has nothing to do with people forgetting where they came from. Visa regulations are in place for a reason. If you want to properly process visa you're going to have to pay for it. Just like hosting is not free, camshows with you are not free etc.

minniesoporno · 02-17-2008, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by venus

the only other option I can think of that would work for you is Ibill

Ibill is out of business. and been out of business for a long as time, it would be like you suggesting me to go with myvirtualcard they are fucking out of business

my only options are verotel, epoch and netcash done well repeated many times in this thread.

RegUser · 02-17-2008, 03:04 PM

epoch does not accept canadian webmasters

NETbilling · 02-17-2008, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by minniesoporno

I already talked to netbilling and yall have some high ass requirements. so there is no reason for you to be posting on this.

its final and there is no other way around it its ccbill with no visa and verotel for visa.

unless ccbill can magically let visa happen on my account yall have no say in what is on my site.

LOL - ok, We wish you the best of luck.

02-01-2008, 07:22 AM	#1
minniesoporno Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Toronto Canada Posts: 1,150	What is left out there for billing I am wondering what is left out there for payment proccesses. I know Ccbill seems to be ranking number one but what do people use if they can't visa on a ccbill account do they still get ccbill and ignore the visa users or what is the next best option out there. I know verotel but I am wondering if there is something else that also offers shopping channel feature.

02-01-2008, 09:51 AM	#5
emjay Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Back in Blighty Posts: 4,277	Hi minniesoporno :-) Phone billing remains a convienient way of surfers to pay you, not least since practically everyone has access to one. Whilst such billing is not suitable for monthly recurring memberships, it is a great way to pay for trials or limited access for say 24 hours. Furthermore, our platform is geo-targeted in 37 languages, allowing you to comminicate with surfers in a language they understand (theirs!), and make money from countries you maybe did not even know existed lol Hit me up anytime with questions :-) __________________ I Run 500+ WhatsApp Groups. The Zuck Owns Me www.emjayconsultancy.com

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beemk CLICK HERE Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 20,829	why would you want to run a site without visa? you're throwing money away. __________________ I host with Vacares

02-01-2008, 04:06 PM	#14
Rand Industry Vet Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Santa Monica, CA Posts: 2,663	Epoch is the company that once went by the name Paycom. For the record, the marketing of Paycom.net has ceased entirely. Epoch continues to process as it has since 1996. As for contemplating the idea of not accepting Visa, I would advise you to seriously reconsider. Visa can account for as much as 70% of your business. Epoch no longer even accepts clients unless they register with Visa. When you consider that the Visa fee is really your only up-front cost for processing, as there are no set-up fees, it needs to be built into your business plan. I hope you get your online business set up and it does so well that one day we can look back at this post and laugh our asses off. Feel free to hit me up if you have any questions. __________________ -- Rand Payment Industry - Communications - Quality Assurance

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Lance69 Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Vancouver BC Posts: 2,266	I think part of her problem is she is based in Canada, with regard to the Visa issue, and less the 750 dollar issue. I say Verotel and NATS, then one of the others as a secondary / phone / checking biller. __________________ Sonarcash Competitive Content Shooting Handgasm HD Handjobs Janessa Jordan Ultimate Wife Make Money Fucking Blog ICQ: 307 975 028 lance {at} sonarcash {dot} com (<- Need amateur content? Email or ICQ)

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BuggyG Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ottawa Posts: 4,179	online chequeing(wts).. banking(wts).. paycom.. umm any others I'm sure people will find in the blanks for you. for ones I missed

02-01-2008, 12:22 PM	#7
bizarrejan Confirmed User Join Date: May 2006 Location: UK Posts: 1,487	jettis, 365 billing, epoch,

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Buster Cherry Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 57	How about Zombaio?

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rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	One option is to process with Verotel until you get enough $ to pay your $750 for Visa. Another is to go with ccbill, exclude Visa, and hope you make up the $750 from Mastercard and check payments (or do M/C charge as well these days?) If you're planning to open your site to affiliates then neither option is really that desirable. You really need to have Visa from day 1 in that case.

02-14-2008, 07:07 PM	#17
minniesoporno Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Toronto Canada Posts: 1,150	I was looking at netcash they seem interesting, might be something I could use for my store on my site. it's ccbill with no visa and verotel as my visa option. or i might just verotel by itself. I do not need pressure from people what I should use it's coming out from my pocket and mine alone, if you want to front the cost for me to get visa with ccbill then go right ahead.

02-14-2008, 07:10 PM	#18
aico Moo Moo Cow Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Washington State Posts: 14,748	Didn't you quit and write some huge diary about how your site fucked your entire life up?

02-14-2008, 08:48 PM	#21
NETbilling Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 8,584	Visa will be the majority of your sales. Do not even consider not having it. __________________ Mitch Farber CEO - NETbilling, Inc. Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456 Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

02-14-2008, 10:05 PM	#25
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	Gotta spend money to make money

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venus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Phoenix, Az Posts: 3,112	the only other option I can think of that would work for you is Ibill __________________ Muscle/Fitness Adult Affiliate Program Since 1997 www.venuscash.com

02-16-2008, 11:05 AM	#31
Sly Let's do some business! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 31,330	To give you an idea of what not accepting Visa means... I do not own a MasterCard. I only use Visa and American Express. I can't even think of anybody that I know that regularly uses a MasterCard, aside from debit purchases. __________________ Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted Windows VPS now available Great for TSS, Nifty Stats, remote work, virtual assistants, etc. Click here for more details.

02-16-2008, 06:43 PM	#32
RegUser Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,472	I am not sure why everyone jumps to bash each other so fast rather than offering advice and walking away from it. I dont think $750.00 is low for everyone but then again it is not high either. The real problem is that other than ccbill for mastercard, there appears to be no option at all for many webmasters. The requirements of netbilling are simply out of question.

02-17-2008, 03:04 PM	#35
RegUser Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,472	epoch does not accept canadian webmasters