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Old 01-30-2008, 02:39 PM   #1
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We are putting together a class action suit against tube and warez sites...

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I am sure the lawyer is all over it, lawyers are almost as much scum as tube sites.....

Do some research on class actions, lawyers get rich, you dont.
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I am sure the lawyer is all over it, lawyers are almost as much scum as tube sites.....

Do some research on class actions, lawyers get rich, you dont.
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Old 01-30-2008, 03:41 PM   #16
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I am sure the lawyer is all over it, lawyers are almost as much scum as tube sites.....

Do some research on class actions, lawyers get rich, you dont.
That may be, but if we can take down some heavy hitting tube/warez sites... we'll win in the long run.
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Brad's right here. Any damages that are won, almost all of it will go to the lawyers. Even if your lucky and it shuts down the tube sites, tomorrow there will be brand new domains with the same database backends.

I don't mean to sound negative, its just that class actions rarely accomplish much.
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What about the people that use said content legit? Can't we be included?


A portion of the money will go to the lawyers... Who cares... better than sitting on your hands.
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Old 01-30-2008, 04:13 PM   #22
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Im interested but I would see jack shit in damages since I have thankfully been able to keep almost everything off of tubes, torrents, and warez sites.
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Shit is going down.

I wonder what will happen behind closed doors.

Will there be hush hush money?

Is someone going to get their ass kicked?

The mob might be involved in this one.
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If billion dollars companies havent been able to do anything to youtube which gets by because of the same laws that allow tubes to operate how they do i doubt anyone here will be able to.
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Where money really needs to be spent is lobbying to change the loop holes of "user submitted conent". The problem is, it's going to take a lot of money.
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Just the word lawsuit alone is enough to scare some potential people from starting up more tube sites.
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Just the word lawsuit alone is enough to scare some potential people from starting up more tube sites.
I doubt it lawsuits are thrown around so loosely on forums 99% of the time nothing happens.
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By the time you get 1 tube site closed 200 new ones are created. Waste of money and time.
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I am sure the lawyer is all over it, lawyers are almost as much scum as tube sites.....

Do some research on class actions, lawyers get rich, you dont.
Yo Brad...the point isn't so I make money. As a content producer (you just shot 2 scenes at my house today - thanks!) shouldn't want to see your content you spent YOUR money on all over the place.

Right?

These tube sites are operating at a very small margin or profit (if any) or are just looking to be sold. If we can just keep them harassed enough to where their legal costs have eaten up the bottom line, they will be forced to go away or change their business model.

I don't care who gets rich, as long as I can see the biggest threat to slinging online porn go away.


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This is a good reason to promote OC Cash

And a big to VideosZ, JuggCash and all the others who advertise on tube sites.
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And a big to VideosZ, JuggCash and all the others who advertise on tube sites.
Hey that isn't may reason for doing this but I certianly appreciate your support.
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I agree letting someone rip your content and praying that someone who jerked off signs up for cams or dating is ridiculously gang banging the whole industry's ass.

Who is a scam will always try to find new ways to scam, but I agree and believe that it can be accomplished to push this to a non - profitable or "too risky to care" area.
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Winning isn't the bottom line here, drawing more attention to the issue is. Hopefully less and less will do business with the illegal tube sites.
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The real problem is giants like Google advocating for the other side. How are you going to outspend Google in Washington? Tough World.
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Do some research on class actions, lawyers get rich, you dont.
I seriously doubt the point is about making money, do some research.
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I know this may sound a bit silly and all but I was thinking.
California has its own special anti-spam laws.
California has well Hollywood and Porn Valley.
California has a lot of music companies as well.

Now couldn't something be lobbied to be placed into law that would give those in California certain legal rights similar to the anti-spam ones. Individual infringement charges, repeat offenses, and all of that crap. Then we just ignore the actual tube sites and such and go after the up loaders.

Yeah the downside would be that those outside of California would be excluded though I am sure NY and Vancouver would also adapt similar laws as they are also very big in entertainment production.

Upside would be that I am sure it would be a whole lot easier to pass. People would not necessarily assume it is a porn protection law. Then going after end users who do get scared and give a rats ass unlike the tube owners themselves, it should really cut down on the number of member up loaders and thus prevent the loophole in the law.
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good luck to you but its pretty pointless if you ask me.
look what happened when napster got shutdown that left millions of users to jump ship to 10 other peer to peer groups, those started to get targeted more heavily, torrent started popping up. every iteration like this only progresses and spreads piracy to even more people. yeah tube sites make it much easier that it has been previously but every hit only leaves a huge hole for another piracy site or technology to capitalize on those users.

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Its not pointless at all - what would happen if they dont close the loophole, but instead agree that tubes etc have to hand over the details of uploaders on request, or keep the list public. Shit i dont know but nothing is pointless.
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Good thinking!

But wouldn't that just mean and other hurdles, and MORE of them?
I mean, think about the "target segregation" there, and then what percentage of infringement charges would actually complete...

I'd imagine uploaders would get tired of the uploading though, with all that risk but no real reward for it..?

Worth more consideration for sure, and to possibly put things into action ahead.
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