longdongsilver

the size of that site is incredible...nearly in the top50 in the world and growing...who owns this ?

looking at the sponsors on this page, im guessing either videosz or juggcash or is it owned by someone else altogether?

started only a few months ago...that is insane. Is this the biggest adult site in the world now or is there even larger?

Malla

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Chris

and redtube is for sale

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Vick!

this site is incredibly large .. got famous so fast.

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Eriic

redtube.com is my favorite site. Free and it is plenty for me.

Mike Semen

Ok, you can just give me your 45k now and save yourself a lot of pain.

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Sosa

tons of porno on there. No need for surfers to keep signing up

Bojangles

Holy shit.

DateDoc

2 million plus visitors per day not paying for a membership

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pornask

ripshit must be laughing at us. He came here spamming redtube big time to spread the word when it was just starting and look. It took off like you wouldn't believe.

Diligent

Jesus..!

With that kind of traffic I'm sure they don't give a shit about likely measly numbers... like 0.1% CTR, and then just 1:5000 at best.

I can imagine it means tons of sales for them whichever way.. fuckers :\
(slight jealousy here, yeah.. lol)

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tiger

Damn I bet that is a nasty bandwidth bill.

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DateDoc

hmm, that would suck for them - 2,000,000 visitors per day @ 0.1% CTR = 2000 and then if they sold at 1:5000 that would be 1 sale every 2.5 days. Is my math wrong because that would be abysmal?

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lbc213

They are business savvy, I will give them that.

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hjnet

I'm wondering if they even make a profit. The BW bill must be insane, and the conversion rates in the shitter.
If mainstream sites like youtube.com don't make that much profit (I've heard $15M in 2006) then I'm pretty sure adult tubes don't make anything at all. That could be the reason why it`s for sale

mn

2,000,000 * 0,01 = 20,000 / 5000 = 4 sales

they do way way way way more than that....

Rhesus

youporn.com is apparently breaking even or so. As you can see a lot of optimisation can be done there, and with such huge traffic figures that will easily translate into some interesting profits. I guess the same applies to redtube.com

starpimps

Tube site business plan:
- Build up a shit load of traffic off stolen videos
- make enough sales to cover the bw bills
- try to find a sucker to buy it at an over inflated ridiculous price

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DateDoc

0.01 is 1%, I was going by the 0.1% (0.001) posted but I agree they have to do better than either of those.

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Diligent

Lol, no You got the numbers right, what I did wrong was not saying I meant on average *per* ad's amount of impression..

Like roughly speaking & generalizing:
2,000,000 visitors day, each of them see what's advertised = ~2,000 clicks per ad... and they plaster the place with advertising.

Heh.. that would still be exceptionally bad, but a little bit better than what it might have looked like I meant

Anyway.. this sucks
I can see where this is going...
Time to to go to the new school I think, and try and launch another huge Social Media-sharing giant of a site...
Or, sigh, see marketing avenues we're used to.. dwindle to sure death.

I feel like such a conservatist right now, lol

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Drake

where did you read this?

Diligent

Yay.. I can see here in my crystal ball.. online Adult's own very first bubble+bust coming along soon

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Barefootsies

I'm guessing all the porn sites not hitting this site with C&D's, or sueing the fucking hell out of them are enjoying their "free advertising" right?

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ninavain

I agree, new sales are already slipping

Davy

I believe you hardly make any sales from a tube site.
What you forget is that they also sell part of their ads, to webmasters and program owners alike.

TheSenator

Bandwidth is dirt cheap these days.

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Eman - PG

If tube sites are the next best thing in porn, why are a bunch of them trying to sell out and mainstream ones making not so much $ after millions and millions of venture capital?

http://www.portfolio.com/culture-lif...inment-Profile

http://www.fivestarmedia.com/

Etc...

tony286

People forget the ads will pay for everything model, has been tried and failed. Also I wonder the true conversions,I bet a huge portion of that traffic is underage, then the rest are looking for free shit.
This isnt a prime consumer target.

nikki99

more tube sites

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AdultTrafficMedia

The perfect business model for tube sites - open a pop on each page load, sell to many media companies for a knockdown rate (say $1 CPM to ensure the inventory is sold) and with 2 million visitors per day, the sites sees some $2 k daily from the pops alone.

Surfers would be pissed with the pop but the freeloaders can still wank4free so the traffic drop would not be horrific.

Eman - PG

Just a side note: If we do enter a US or Global recession in 2008, the word CPM will die again. I can't believe this CPM bullshit made its way back from the dead after 2000.

papill0n

fuck redtube

will76

youporn and megarotic are bigger.


the hun and tgps like it will dead soon ( 1 - 3 years) like I have been saying for months now

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DateDoc

Tell that to Markus Frind. His ads seem to pay for everything!

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VicD

Why are they selling that site? Killed by the bandwith bill or the traffic must be real shitty...or both...

SZNY

Amazing how they generated this kind of traffic stats in such a short period. I've also been contacted if I had interested in this site. I also believe tube sites have some kind of effect on adult pay sites and i'm interested how their montly revs and b/w costs look like.

Anyway besides tube sites there is so much free porn online available on p2p sites and that was already before porn tube sites were deployed.

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tony286

one guy doesnt mean it works for everyone.Its been tried and failed.

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nico-t

what is CPM?

Drake

But how do they even break even? I don't think there is venture capital backing the adult tube sites, only mainstream ones. Maybe I'm wrong. Anybody know?

Barefootsies

REMEMBER THAT TUBESITES ARE BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE FBI AND TITLE 2257..

/sarcasm

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brandonstills

If I were them I would block all traffic from countries that have a low % of people that actually buy things. Most of them traffic it said is from out of the country and probably from places where they don't even use credit cards, probably underage as well.

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kane

I actually think it will be just the opposite and most tube sites will either be dead or shells of themselves in the next 1-3 years. It seems like almost all of them are actively looking for buyers because it is hard to make money with them and I think it will only get harder and harder for them. As it gets harder for them to convert their traffic they will start to throttle back and they will lose visitors or just close their doors. How many tgp's have gone out of business because they couldn't convert the traffic? Many. Tube sites are tgp's on steroids they give away so much there is only certain things they can sell to make money and eventually those ads will get stale and dry up.

Just my 2 cents.

brizzad

Why are you homos bitching about bandwidth. Bandwidth is cheap as FUCK. If you're getting so many visitors to your site that its maxing out your bandwidth, and you can't turn a profit from them to pay the bill, then either your hosting company is ripping you off, or you suck at being a webmaster.

Look at their advertising rates: http://www.etology.com/buying-space-...8831&EID=51331

will76

TUBE SITES (almost all of them if not all of them) are being pumped with money from AFF / CAMS.... don't forget it.

Lars managed to change the industry, he single handedly brought down the porn membership traditional sites by sending millions to these tube sites to promote his cams and dating sites.

every make sure to thank lars and aff.

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kane

That is insane. I wonder how many ads they actually sell at that rate. The say you will get an average of 7,000 clicks in a day and it costs $635. I wonder how many people actually pay that rate. You would have to have one hell of a ratio just to break even at that price.