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brizzad · 01-16-2008, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

That is insane. I wonder how many ads they actually sell at that rate. The say you will get an average of 7,000 clicks in a day and it costs $635. I wonder how many people actually pay that rate. You would have to have one hell of a ratio just to break even at that price.

Pretty much all of their ads are for dating/sex finding type sites and for these hornny fucks watching these 5 minutes videos I bet it converts pretty well. Either way though, I'm sure redtube doesn't give a fuck how it converts.

Barefootsies · 01-16-2008, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

TUBE SITES (almost all of them if not all of them) are being pumped with money from AFF / CAMS.... don't forget it.

Lars managed to change the industry, he single handedly brought down the porn membership traditional sites by sending millions to these tube sites to promote his cams and dating sites.

every make sure to thank lars and aff.

kane · 01-16-2008, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by brizzad

Pretty much all of their ads are for dating/sex finding type sites and for these hornny fucks watching these 5 minutes videos I bet it converts pretty well. Either way though, I'm sure redtube doesn't give a fuck how it converts.

I guess I feel like the dating stuff will eventually stagnate on those sites. Many of those visitors are return visitors. If they see the same dating ads time and time again they eventually ignore them and they will be less profitable. I think eventually advertisers will start to lose money on them and back out and that will leave tube sites like this one in deep shit.

But then again, maybe not.

will76 · 01-16-2008, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

I actually think it will be just the opposite and most tube sites will either be dead or shells of themselves in the next 1-3 years. It seems like almost all of them are actively looking for buyers because it is hard to make money with them and I think it will only get harder and harder for them. As it gets harder for them to convert their traffic they will start to throttle back and they will lose visitors or just close their doors. How many tgp's have gone out of business because they couldn't convert the traffic? Many. Tube sites are tgp's on steroids they give away so much there is only certain things they can sell to make money and eventually those ads will get stale and dry up.

Just my 2 cents.

the reason why they are looking for buyers IMO is not because they aren't making money, it is because they are greedy but not stupid. They are worried the gravey train may end soon (being sued or laws changing) that will fuck them hard for having stolen content on their sites.

They are also greedy as fuck and they see sites in the top 50 like myspace, youtube and face book worth hundreds of millions. They think because they have the traffic they can cash in and sell for millions too. How much does youporn want ? 20 million, how much do they claim it makes. $120,000 a month from advertising. That is net. The reason he wants to sell it, he would rather 20 million now opposed to 120K a month and sooner or later getting into shit.

I don't think it is " they want to sell because they don't make money" I think it is more, we are greedy and we want 20 years income paid upfront right now, and they don't want the risks long term that comes with these types of sites...

Drake · 01-16-2008, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

the reason why they are looking for buyers IMO is not because they aren't making money, it is because they are greedy but not stupid. They are worried the gravey train may end soon (being sued or laws changing) that will fuck them hard for having stolen content on their sites.

They are also greedy as fuck and they see sites in the top 50 like myspace, youtube and face book worth hundreds of millions. They think because they have the traffic they can cash in and sell for millions too. How much does youporn want ? 20 million, how much do they claim it makes. $120,000 a month from advertising. That is net. The reason he wants to sell it, he would rather 20 million now opposed to 120K a month and sooner or later getting into shit.

I don't think it is " they want to sell because they don't make money" I think it is more, we are greedy and we want 20 years income paid upfront right now, and they don't want the risks long term that comes with these types of sites...

Yes, I think you're right. It just makes sense to try and get out with a large lumpsum than operating under the risks while making a lot less than the lumpsum.

I'm curious, have any large adult tube sites been successfully sold to date? Are there companies and/or individuals out there that have $20 million willing to buy networks with so much associated risks?

will76 · 01-16-2008, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

the reason why they are looking for buyers IMO is not because they aren't making money, it is because they are greedy but not stupid. They are worried the gravey train may end soon (being sued or laws changing) that will fuck them hard for having stolen content on their sites.

They are also greedy as fuck and they see sites in the top 50 like myspace, youtube and face book worth hundreds of millions. They think because they have the traffic they can cash in and sell for millions too. How much does youporn want ? 20 million, how much do they claim it makes. $120,000 a month from advertising. That is net. The reason he wants to sell it, he would rather 20 million now opposed to 120K a month and sooner or later getting into shit.

I don't think it is " they want to sell because they don't make money" I think it is more, we are greedy and we want 20 years income paid upfront right now, and they don't want the risks long term that comes with these types of sites...

edit, i meant i dont think that is net, i think that is 120K month gross, so they grossing like 1.5 million a year. even if they profitting 500K they want to sell for 20 million

thats 40 years income i would want to sell too LOLOL. I bet if they put it up for sale for something reasonable someone would take them up on it, if they put it for sale for 3 - 4 million someone would buy it.

kane · 01-16-2008, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

the reason why they are looking for buyers IMO is not because they aren't making money, it is because they are greedy but not stupid. They are worried the gravey train may end soon (being sued or laws changing) that will fuck them hard for having stolen content on their sites.

They are also greedy as fuck and they see sites in the top 50 like myspace, youtube and face book worth hundreds of millions. They think because they have the traffic they can cash in and sell for millions too. How much does youporn want ? 20 million, how much do they claim it makes. $120,000 a month from advertising. That is net. The reason he wants to sell it, he would rather 20 million now opposed to 120K a month and sooner or later getting into shit.

I don't think it is " they want to sell because they don't make money" I think it is more, we are greedy and we want 20 years income paid upfront right now, and they don't want the risks long term that comes with these types of sites...

I'm sure they want out as soon as possible. The owners of Youporn admit they don't know what to do with it they just want to grow it as big as possible and sell it. I think they want out, like you say, before the shit hits the fan and they have to deal with the potential problems a site like that has. Better to get something nice today for it than risk getting nothing for it in a few years.

ladida · 01-16-2008, 09:59 PM

Hosted at ch00pa. They can unleash some serious bandwidth. Outside that, they host few large programs, and they seem to support gaming communities that burn bandwidth like there's no tommorow.
I've seen far better prices from hosts here then on their page. I'd be curious what they charge redtube

Nicky · 01-16-2008, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by brizzad

Why are you homos bitching about bandwidth. Bandwidth is cheap as FUCK. If you're getting so many visitors to your site that its maxing out your bandwidth, and you can't turn a profit from them to pay the bill, then either your hosting company is ripping you off, or you suck at being a webmaster.

Look at their advertising rates: http://www.etology.com/buying-space-...8831&EID=51331

Fuck, thats a joke..... $0,10 CPC I have trouble getting 10c per click from my SE traffic......

Drake · 01-17-2008, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by kane

I'm sure they want out as soon as possible. The owners of Youporn admit they don't know what to do with it they just want to grow it as big as possible and sell it. I think they want out, like you say, before the shit hits the fan and they have to deal with the potential problems a site like that has. Better to get something nice today for it than risk getting nothing for it in a few years.

And when you think of it, it would be a great score for them even to get $1 - $2 million for a site that only breaks even in terms of profit.

HouseHead · 01-17-2008, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Malla

http://www.fivestarmedia.com/

yea yea there is some traffics there

kane · 01-17-2008, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike33

And when you think of it, it would be a great score for them even to get $1 - $2 million for a site that only breaks even in terms of profit.

True but it still does nothing to change my opinion that most sites like this will eventually die off or radically change themselves. It is just a questions of if the change/death will be under a new owner or not.

hjnet · 01-17-2008, 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by brizzad

Why are you homos bitching about bandwidth. Bandwidth is cheap as FUCK. If you're getting so many visitors to your site that its maxing out your bandwidth, and you can't turn a profit from them to pay the bill, then either your hosting company is ripping you off, or you suck at being a webmaster.

Look at their advertising rates: http://www.etology.com/buying-space-...8831&EID=51331

Wow, $0.25 per click on a tube site. So that means you'd need to convert ~1:100 to make a reasonable profit.

I doubt that they have many returning buyers, or buyers at all.

Anybody in the mood to start guessing how much their BW bill is each month?

d-null · 03-21-2009, 11:10 PM

interesting year old thread and comments

now a year later the alexa stats say redtube is 22x that of thehun

PornMD · 03-21-2009, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by d-null

interesting year old thread and comments

now a year later the alexa stats say redtube is 22x that of thehun

How about this one for a trip?

Barefootsies · 03-21-2009, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by starpimps

Tube site business plan:
- Build up a shit load of traffic off stolen videos
- make enough sales to cover the bw bills
- try to find a sucker to buy it at an over inflated ridiculous price

Drake · 03-21-2009, 11:45 PM

Interesting update.

I wonder if Hun gallery spots will ever come down in price. How about content store dvd prices? Prices for both have remained as high as they were years ago while the market is completely different.

teomaxxx · 03-22-2009, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike33

Interesting update.

I wonder if Hun gallery spots will ever come down in price. How about content store dvd prices? Prices for both have remained as high as they were years ago while the market is completely different.

if so, then Thehun must be still the most profitable adult free site, even with 2-4x less traffic then biggest tubes.

James124 · 03-22-2009, 02:53 AM

Techy and determined surfers have many other ways to find your content for free than tube sites. Tube sites were a way for the market to solve a problem that non-techy surfers had. The problem was many of you guys have scammed sick amounts of surfers. Cross sales, and false promises etc.

Ron2k1 · 03-22-2009, 03:27 AM

Soon the biggest will be tube8 or pornhub.

I personally think tube8, but pornhub has much better Google rankings

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Pretty funny to read all the GFY-ers her posting about how much money the tubes make and how it converts knowing the average GFY-er has absolutely no clue about bandwidth at such high numbers as the tubes burn.

Elixir · 03-22-2009, 03:33 AM

Very interesting pics in thread...
Free content is the only trick

Bandwidth...ah yes I agree with you Ron2k1, redtube is big monster for Bandwidth

brassmonkey · 03-22-2009, 03:39 AM

hahaha a real money maker

tabasco · 03-22-2009, 04:13 AM

Searches per day

Google
daily est
red tube 175,593
you tube 131,203

LoveSandra · 03-22-2009, 04:53 AM

fuck the red faggot tube

CaptainHowdy · 03-22-2009, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by LoveSandra

fuck the red faggot tube

There you go ...

seeandsee · 03-22-2009, 12:05 PM

that is just fucked

MetaMan · 03-22-2009, 12:08 PM

fuk i was gonna make my own thread.

edittt

Ozarkz · 03-22-2009, 12:14 PM

The funny thing is.. Redtube isn't even one of the good "illegal" tubes. Redtube doesn't have half the shit as some of the others.

GAMEFINEST · 03-22-2009, 12:15 PM

lol, funny part is i own a FreePorno ( dot ) ext that is parked makes me good revenue a month...its a shitty ext too that is parked.

V_RocKs · 03-22-2009, 12:45 PM

You make dating sales.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 03-22-2009, 12:47 PM

I don't see why anyone would pay for porn. pornhub.com is sick.

bo$$ · 03-22-2009, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

edit, i meant i dont think that is net, i think that is 120K month gross, so they grossing like 1.5 million a year. even if they profitting 500K they want to sell for 20 million

thats 40 years income i would want to sell too LOLOL. I bet if they put it up for sale for something reasonable someone would take them up on it, if they put it for sale for 3 - 4 million someone would buy it.

oh yea, thats dead on

I got a few tubes which i really want to sell... I dont want to be contacted by the fucking fbi for distribution of obscene material anytime soon.. I really dont blame them

xxxjay · 03-22-2009, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris

and redtube is for sale

This is true. I have the sales proposal - it's been on sale for over a year. They are losing money.

Pleasurepays · 03-22-2009, 04:57 PM

haha... here we go. almost 4 years and everyone is still saying tube sites will die as if it makes any sense.

time to come to grips with a few facts.

1) tube sites convert traffic
2) tube sites are profitable (the ones i know well are)
3) bandwidth/storage will only get cheaper
4) broadband and user internet speeds are only going up

.... so... thinking this isn't something thats here to say is insanely naive... even delusional.

Iron Fist · 03-22-2009, 05:01 PM

Strange that they would be selling it out.... always a reason why someone sells something, just would be interested as to why... because it's got to be paying its bills, therefore, must be making at least enough to cover that, and probably making a fairly healthy profit as well.

xxxjay · 03-22-2009, 05:21 PM

Youtube just set a bad example that many have followed. Built an empire on stolen content, hemoraged money for years, and the got bought up by google for a hefty sum.

Snake Doctor · 04-08-2009, 02:06 PM

I had to go back over a year, but I finally found a thread about RedTube that wasn't started by xxxjay

96ukssob · 04-08-2009, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Snake Doctor

I had to go back over a year, but I finally found a thread about RedTube that wasn't started by xxxjay

Dang, i remember reading this a year ago... cant believe the site is still that massive

I think what a lot of people are forgetting is its not the actual site that is pulling in revenue, but these visitors sign up for an "account" so they can post their

about videos. Get enough email addresses + some "marketing" = nice return

My brothers friend has some free video game site and makes people register with their info before they can play. He says he makes 20x more money from email marketing to those people than he does off any ads on the site

my

are people are still stuck on that the only way to make money is to get people to a site, get them to click on the affiliate link and join. Surfers these days are way more savvy then they were 5 years ago. Conversion rates were high because people didnt know that there was so many torrent sites, tube sites, newz and free sites to download content from... it was only napster, limewire and old fashioned IRC.

I was thought to be a geek when i was in college because i know how to use mIRC, and even before that, AOL chat rooms.

Eh, times have changed and its time to adapt or die IMO

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03-21-2009, 11:10 PM	#64
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03-21-2009, 11:45 PM	#67
Drake Hello world! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 12,508	Interesting update. I wonder if Hun gallery spots will ever come down in price. How about content store dvd prices? Prices for both have remained as high as they were years ago while the market is completely different.

03-22-2009, 02:53 AM	#69
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03-22-2009, 04:13 AM	#73
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Ozarkz So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,377	The funny thing is.. Redtube isn't even one of the good "illegal" tubes. Redtube doesn't have half the shit as some of the others.

03-22-2009, 12:15 PM	#79
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03-22-2009, 04:57 PM	#84
Pleasurepays BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I live in a pile of boogers Posts: 11,913	haha... here we go. almost 4 years and everyone is still saying tube sites will die as if it makes any sense. time to come to grips with a few facts. 1) tube sites convert traffic 2) tube sites are profitable (the ones i know well are) 3) bandwidth/storage will only get cheaper 4) broadband and user internet speeds are only going up .... so... thinking this isn't something thats here to say is insanely naive... even delusional.

03-22-2009, 05:01 PM	#85
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03-22-2009, 05:21 PM	#86
xxxjay Tube groupie. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: LoScandalous, CA Posts: 13,482	Youtube just set a bad example that many have followed. Built an empire on stolen content, hemoraged money for years, and the got bought up by google for a hefty sum. __________________ http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/ Last edited by xxxjay; 03-22-2009 at 05:22 PM..

04-08-2009, 02:06 PM	#87
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