seeric

thats what i want to know.

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RudeBoy

I saw the kid he's an idiot but violence is not the answer.

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What does he look like?

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Sebastian Sands

I saw Donny Long.. hehehe..

chopstick

I cannot post with my regular account. Have I been blocked? Is GFY blocking XTube staff for some reason? I have some good info to add to this!

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Yes all of Xtube has been blocked from GFY

chopstick

For what good reason?

Pnk XXX

too funny

those who condemn such sites as xtube but yet they are probably shaving their affiliates and scrubbing sales, lol, such a two faced industry we have!

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Pete said that the guy provoked him and started calling him animal names and he had no choice but to smack him

Tat2Jr

At least when AaronM gives a webmaster show beat down we get pics. Either have Aaron do the hitting, or post the pics!

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Pete said that the guy provoked him and started calling him animal names and he had no choice but to smack him , Pete is hig ranking member of GFY and we cant have dimwits calling fellow bros names and animals for no reason

chopstick

I called Kurtis (the supposed 'XTube Kid') to get the scoop on this because when I left the show Saturday there was nothing like this going on, and Kurtis is not one to get into scraps - it's not sexy enough, lol.

So, the story you're about to read is straight from the punchee:

Later, on Saturday night, Kurtis attempted to speak with someone (possibly "Sebastian Sands") who proceeded to use his superior intellect to punk Kurtis. Kurtis immediately became bored with the guy's antics and walked away. Moments later, when Kurtis was entering a building, he paused to hold the door a moment for a man who was walking behind him. That guy was too busy on his cell phone to realize, so Kurtis let go and continued walking in. Apparently the guy on the cell phone was not impressed with Kurtis' gentlemanly behavior and chased after him, and sucker-punched Kurtis on the inside.

The punch landed, in the throat, and Kurtis returned with a shot that left some of the puncher's DNA on Kurtis' ring. Not sure, might have been a shot to the chin. Security was quick to end the scuffle and both men were tossed outside.

As far as Kurtis could tell, the puncher was not part of the convention, so we cannot award credit for the stellar boxing performance to anyone. It was by no means a KO for either person. Basically one shot each.


As for the claims about XTube ripping people off... That's not accurate. XTube does not upload content to the XTube website. All professional content is uploaded by webmasters, through a webmaster account, who are required provide sponsor information and linking codes, along with an optional 120x60 button, which appears in the description of the content.

It is true that regular users are physically able to upload stolen content, but it does not stay on the system as it is reported by users, found by admins and in some cases an official will report it to XTube, where is it always promptly removed.

This is all completely contrary to copy-cat tube sites.

It is important to note that this model is on the way out the door. XTube is no longer interested in doing business in this fashion. There are too many people who cannot wrap their heads around it. So, shortly, all webmaster access to the site will be shut down. I thought you guys might be happy to hear that

Chef86

These shows seem to get better every year I gotta make it to one

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You left out the part when "Kurtis" spit on Pete and called him a hairy Ape...


Pete told him to relax but Kurtis still acted "tough" and pushed Pete

Pete then grabbed him by the shirt and Kurtis smacked Pete then pete decked him....

Get the story str8

Nicky

we still need pics

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chopstick

I got the story straight from Kurtis, so call HIM the liar. I fail to believe that Kurtis would initiate such childishness.

Ditto

Yes he did try to speak to Sebastian and a group of us all standing together and when he gave his card and we wanted nothing to do with him and said we dont deal with sites who have stolen content he did not like that. Well you should not go to a place where people who protect their content and try to make friend if your working for a site that takes others hard work and puts it up there for the world to see. An maybe they should change things if they are trying to make friends with webmasters.

seeric

this is the bullshit you fuckers are in trouble for. the content shouldnt be there in the first place. jesus stop hiding behind the fucking loophole. none of us are buying this or accepting it. if you're gonna keep snubbing content producers by allowing "users" (who could be employees in your office), then people will stay mad and you guys should prob stay away from shows.

no one has a problem with webmasters being able to upload shit. if you're abandoning this model for the user uploading one you're gonna have a hell of a lot more things that people aren't gonna accept and "wrap their heads around".

i hope you don't think that those of us in the business for ten years or more around here are stupid.

run a legit site and no one will say shit. bottom line man.

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I dont know Kurtis but seems he is full of shit....

Pete told me that "Kurtis" was all coked up and shit and acting tough...

Anyways Kurtis owes Pete a aoplogy

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Lance i think Kurtis was "skiing" too much ..... might want to tell him to relax on the skiing

Sebastian Sands

Nope, wasn't me.
I heard he got punched that's all.


I do have to say if he kept being a smartass about how xtube has no problem taking my stuff down IF I find it on there, he would have ended up in the pool, no doubt about it.

Newbie or not, don't tell me it's ok for me to spend my time on a site like this to find my own content and then I have to politely ask you to remove it because yes I will punch you in the face, simple as that.

Sebs

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Lance i wasnt there but 2 other people confirmed what happened and such.... which leads me to believe that Pete was not lying and had no reason too

tony286

amen brother

Tat2Jr

Did you say that right? You're only going to be accepting user uploaded stuff, and locking out webmasters? That's gonna win you some brownie points for sure.

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ProjectNaked

I think I heard about those...that's the new drink at the Circle bar right??

chopstick

You guys really think that we are out looking for your content. Wow, I cannot count how many times that has been opposed.

There is no one in the office uploading content that was not created by the person uploading.

We don't want your content. The users don't want your content.
XTube is focused on Amateur content, generated by the user. The volume of email that we get bitching about commercial content is immense, so we implemented a filter that blocks commercial content (WMs) - the users loved it.

We're not hiding behind the loophole that bars us from reviewing content. We had a schedule where staff would review content on an hourly basis until we learned that doing so incriminated us. So now that we're not allowed to police the site, we rely on viewers. We don't like it like that because we don't want your promo clips mixed in there pissing off our users and screwing with copyrights.

I was not clear as to how blocking all commercial content from the free section would help solve the problem of copyright. I really honestly believe this is a good solution. It's not some tactic. Fuck sakes people, we're Canadians! We're nice people!

Blocking commercial content from the free section will make it super easy to locate and delete stolen content, and ban the user who uploaded it, along with everything else they have uploaded. There is going to be a plainly visible button that will immediately remove the user and all of their uploads. This button will be available to all users, including the XTube staff - for chance encounters, because we're not allowed to police the site.

By increasing the ease and speed of removal we're able to eliminate all offending content, and you guys can focus your anger on the other tube sites who are too chicken to show up at shows, or even make their contacts freely available. Oh, on that point, Kurtis was not at Internext to 'make nice' with WMs. He was invited BY THE SHOW to be a speaker. YOU people wanted him there, and then you get all pissy about it - HA! Too funny.

Anyways, if Kurtis was as poorly behaved as you guys say he was, then he earned the shots he got. I will believe him over you guys though, just my loyalty talkin there.

Tat2Jr

I actually use the tube sites to promote my shit, so I'm not trying to bash you at all. I take the view that we shouldn't be mad at the tube sites... we should be mad at (and boycott) the advertisers who run their banners on the tube sites.

But, this thread just keeps getting crazier. You say you don't want our content (even us uploading it ourselves for promotion) - THEN WHY GO TO A WEBMASTER SHOW? What's the purpose?

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Satan

Juicy stop fucking lieing, I NEVER told you that, I dont even know the kid bro, This thread was funny until you really started to lie about shit.


Lance it WAS NOT me that talked or punched lance and I never said any of that to juicy

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maybe juicy is skiing again.... another dime bag of drama coming up.

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chopstick

Hey smarty-pants, go re-read my post. The answer is in there.


Here is another interesting bit of information - At the AEE (the reason we were in Vegas) we were asked to stop by one of the largest booths on the upper level. The owner of XTube and myself went and listened to this major content producer talk about how fighting a changing industry is stupid. His idea is to work together with us, and when the paperwork is finish there will be a press release, where you will find out whom it was and what the details are, and how it is a better idea than fighting without our keyboards.

chopstick

I always wonder why I miss out on all the violence etc. I just realized it's not because I am intimidating, or that people are smart enough to know better than to mess with me... It's because I really am a nice guy, and I listen when you talk to me. Perhaps if I was there this would not have happened.

Naw, who'm I kiddin!

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You punched him out!!!!!!! you told me earlier today

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Ewok Ewok Ewok!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ice

What proof do you have that the person uploading the content is the person that generated it?

Do you ask for 2257 docs to prove they are of age?

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Tat2Jr

Wow, if you read my post.... I'm not totally against the tube sites. I've worked them quite well to my advantage. Plus I make a bank load of money on VOD and clips sales, and you go and call me "smarty-pants"?

I did re-read it and missed that part. But calling niche content producers (10+ years and running) smarty pants..... oh, never mind.

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dynastoned

lol i knew he was in for some trouble when i spoke with him at one of the bars in the palms..

tony286

Then that person is very short sighted but thats our industry. lol

zigx

LOL punched for running a website. damn

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chopstick

The IP addresses of offenders never come back as originating from our building.
We get 2257s from all content we sell.

You make money, that's smart, good for you (honestly).
10 years in? I give a shit? I am 8 years in. Time spent in makes no difference. I developed a site (XTube, in conjunction with Frank and Steven) that's got immense traffic, great rank, millions of users and boat loads of money flowing around it. I know things too. Years mean nothing.

tony286

Being arrogant is that the rules to be in the tube business? Ever have your hard work used without your permission by someone else to make money?

NosMo

Says you, but are you French Canadians or a real Canadians?

NosMo

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seeric

as a seasoned industry person with 8 years in the business, YOU know for a fact what is pro and what is not. don't give me that man. content = equity = people returning to your site = revenue. come on. you can't bullshit a bullshitter.

alot of us were invited to be on panels, including me. lets not booster up the little fellar like he's an industry rocket scientist. i don't believe a webmaster punched anyone, its never happened, probably never will. WE people are not spoken for by AVN. THEY wanted him there.

YOU know exactly what you're up to. This industry makes me sick lately.

Martin

Fake Drama.

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Sebastian Sands

Hiding behind a US law while you're in Canada (or where ever you are).

Tat2Jr

What I meant by the 10 years as a content producer is that you could be working with me to get me on your VOD shit instead of calling me names. I'm not beating my chest, and telling you to look at my gfy join date. I know years mean nothing - obviously since you're picking fights with or at the least belittling a)an establish content producer, b)someone who stated they worked the tube sites to their advantage instead of fighting them and c) someone who was asking a question that obviously meant they submitted their stuff to your site. I was being civil, and asking obvious questions. You come back with "smarty pants" and "I give a shit?". Wow - you are SO right - years in this business do mean nothing.

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Tat2Jr

By the way - to every other hardworking content PRODUCING webmaster reading this thread.... I'm not taking about having my entire scenes (or yours) posted on these tube sites when I was saying I've worked them to my advantage. I'm taking about a 3-5 minute teaser of my own stuff with a URL watermarked that I myself posted.

Even though I work the tube sites to my advantage I still don't promote ANY of the advertisers in ANY form that I find advertising banners on their sites because I know a lot of unauthorized full scenes are posted by users everyday, and I won't support a company that gets paid off stolen content.

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seeric

btw, any tube owners reading this that are interested in making legitimate deals on content and it makes sense to me, i will hear any and all pitches. contrary to popular belief we are adapting and innovating at a pace that most are not going to be able to keep up with. you shall see soon what i mean. we are leaders not followers. evolution is a certainty and i don't intend to be left behind or sitting on the sidelines. monetizing the future is a definite for us, but you know what they say, if it don't make dollas, it don't make sense.

woooof.

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