How to protect yourself from check join chargeback?? - GoFuckYourself.com

Phil · 01-06-2008, 05:45 PM

just noticed that I have few of those this year and it looks like its easier than using someones credit card.

GrouchyAdmin · 01-06-2008, 05:49 PM

You can't chargeback ACH except by signing an affidavit with the bank; if you're getting several, look for affiliates and combinations of similarities, then ban the affiliate for fraud. I've never seen an ACH 'chargeback.'

Otherwise, it 'just happens', and since ACH takes time to settle, your only way around that for sure is setting up a different ACH join option and setting it NET45 or something.

Phil · 01-06-2008, 06:29 PM

ccbill does it somehow.
got inital charge as "cb" and rebill that came after that.

Satan · 01-06-2008, 06:31 PM

chargeback with ach? never had one, weve had credits but thats when the account doesnt have sufficient funds

GrouchyAdmin · 01-06-2008, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by CAMOKAT

ccbill does it somehow.
got inital charge as "cb" and rebill that came after that.

CCBill is kind of fucked up in how it works: CCBill does an instant post to your system for a purchase so people who paid for the porn are allowed to view it within seconds. Rebills are polled later via a script, rather than posted to you, as, say, NetBilling works. Sometimes they'll CB an initial and you'll still show a rebill, due to the automatic/polling nature of the system - it's not sync'd.

The way it came as a CB is that it takes like 3 days for ACH to settle; if someone's overdrawn between initial and actual charge date, it will bounce as a credit, but it may show as a CB. I'm not familiar how you're polling.

Peaches · 01-06-2008, 06:36 PM

Use WTS. You don't get charged unless you get paid so at the very most you've lost some bandwidth while they played in your site. Plus WTS has their own inhouse collections which is pretty aggressive so if someone decides to have a bad check/say it was fraud/etc. they get pretty tough with them.

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 01-06-2008, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CAMOKAT

just noticed that I have few of those this year and it looks like its easier than using someones credit card.

stop lieing troll... you have never seen a ccbill check and you got the idea for this thread from another forum

go fucking kill yourself you troll

Why would you guys even talk to this troll??

Phil · 01-06-2008, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by pussyserver

stop lieing troll... you have never seen a ccbill check and you got the idea for this thread from another forum

go fucking kill yourself you troll

Why would you guys even talk to this troll??

shut the fuck up. show me your sites huffer? as far as I know you got none.

Phil · 01-06-2008, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin

CCBill is kind of fucked up in how it works: CCBill does an instant post to your system for a purchase so people who paid for the porn are allowed to view it within seconds. Rebills are polled later via a script, rather than posted to you, as, say, NetBilling works. Sometimes they'll CB an initial and you'll still show a rebill, due to the automatic/polling nature of the system - it's not sync'd.

The way it came as a CB is that it takes like 3 days for ACH to settle; if someone's overdrawn between initial and actual charge date, it will bounce as a credit, but it may show as a CB. I'm not familiar how you're polling.

Here's what i see:
Transactions:
initial 0107326406000000649 on 2007-11-22 for $29.99 (Check returned on 2008-01-02 04:01:13 PM)
rebill 0107358106000007661 on 2007-12-24 for $39.99 (Check returned on 2008-01-02 06:04:14 PM)

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 01-06-2008, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CAMOKAT

shut the fuck up. show me your sites huffer? as far as I know you got none.

nothing at all to prove to a troll

FYI...I own 12 active websites 3 adult the rest mainstream and I make more in a day than you have in you entire life troll

now stop pretending to be a webmaster and get a life

Phil · 01-06-2008, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by pussyserver

nothing at all to prove to a troll

FYI...I own 12 active websites 3 adult the rest mainstream and I make more in a day than you have in you entire life troll

now stop pretending to be a webmaster and get a life

sure bitch. and i fly f-16 to get my beer. you got no sites, and you make zero money on the web. You fuck hoes for drugs and suck pipes to pay off your own pimp.

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 01-06-2008, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by CAMOKAT

sure bitch. and i fly f-16 to get my beer. you got no sites, and you make zero money on the web. You fuck hoes for drugs and suck pipes to pay off your own pimp.

uh sure ok lol
I assume all the foul words has something to do with your wild upbringing........

this is why we need border control

Major (Tom) · 01-06-2008, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CAMOKAT

just noticed that I have few of those this year and it looks like its easier than using someones credit card.

I tell ya man, I HATE online checks. I get bounces all the time. Its the nature of the beast. I look over everyone and if one looks suspicious i just deactivate it. Thats the best way. Also keep notes of whos frauding you. ip, usernames, emails, etc. you will find more often than not its the same deadbeat. I get alot of bounced checks on my ebony sites. i find that interesting.

Duke

Major (Tom) · 01-06-2008, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peaches

Use WTS. You don't get charged unless you get paid so at the very most you've lost some bandwidth while they played in your site. Plus WTS has their own inhouse collections which is pretty aggressive so if someone decides to have a bad check/say it was fraud/etc. they get pretty tough with them.

All online checks are stink. wts is definatley the best though.

duke

Phil · 01-06-2008, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

I tell ya man, I HATE online checks. I get bounces all the time. Its the nature of the beast. I look over everyone and if one looks suspicious i just deactivate it. Thats the best way. Also keep notes of whos frauding you. ip, usernames, emails, etc. you will find more often than not its the same deadbeat.

Duke

his e-mail was fake and IP didn't match his address.

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I get alot of bounced checks on my ebony sites. i find that interesting.

lol, I wonder why! Pussyserver's cousins need porn too.

NETbilling · 01-07-2008, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

All online checks are stink. wts is definatley the best though.

duke

Now that you are going live with NETbilling, you will be very happy and we do checks too my friend.

01-06-2008, 05:45 PM	#1
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01-06-2008, 05:49 PM	#2
GrouchyAdmin Now choke yourself! Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 12,085	You can't chargeback ACH except by signing an affidavit with the bank; if you're getting several, look for affiliates and combinations of similarities, then ban the affiliate for fraud. I've never seen an ACH 'chargeback.' Otherwise, it 'just happens', and since ACH takes time to settle, your only way around that for sure is setting up a different ACH join option and setting it NET45 or something. __________________ AIM: GrouchyGfy

01-06-2008, 06:29 PM	#3
Phil Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 7,659	ccbill does it somehow. got inital charge as "cb" and rebill that came after that. __________________ Ask Phil

01-06-2008, 06:31 PM	#4
Satan Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hell Posts: 1,626	chargeback with ach? never had one, weve had credits but thats when the account doesnt have sufficient funds __________________ WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU?

01-06-2008, 06:36 PM	#6
Peaches Old broad Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Away Posts: 13,933	Use WTS. You don't get charged unless you get paid so at the very most you've lost some bandwidth while they played in your site. Plus WTS has their own inhouse collections which is pretty aggressive so if someone decides to have a bad check/say it was fraud/etc. they get pretty tough with them.